Glenn Chan
February 17th, 2004, 05:45 PM
You can roll back your system in XP through start > help and support > system restore.
It doesn't take that long.
It doesn't take that long.
View Full Version : Avid / Pinnacle discussions from 2004 Glenn Chan February 17th, 2004, 05:45 PM You can roll back your system in XP through start > help and support > system restore. It doesn't take that long. John Threat February 17th, 2004, 06:06 PM Just uninstall that FIX and itll work again Val Daniels February 19th, 2004, 01:44 PM Is there a setting that would allow for the creation of subdirectories in the OMFI media folder? We currently have multiple projects going on and would like to keep files separate. Thanks for any suggestions! Ozzie Alfonso February 23rd, 2004, 01:23 AM Avid defaults to the OMFI directory in the drive with the most free space. There is no practical reason for separating the projects in the OMFI directories. Avid does this by way of the project bins. You can always find out and delete or copy the media files from a particular project via the Avid interface. You CAN force Avid to place media files as they are being digitized in particular drives but, as far as I know, not in specific subdirectories. John Threat February 24th, 2004, 01:30 AM There is a program media mover that helps you do this. I do it manually by mapping a network drive to a folder so that windows sees the folder as a drive. Inside of avid go to the console and type alldrives. it will toggle it to be able to see even pseudo-drives as media drives. Tony Pham February 24th, 2004, 11:41 AM Hi John, Where is the console that you're talking about? I am trying to go to avid, but didn't know where i can type in "alldrives". Please advice. Thanks. Tony Pham February 24th, 2004, 11:44 AM Hi everyone, Please advice on how to nesting sequences in Avid Xpress Pro. I couldn't seem to do that. I want to be able to put sequences inside sequences like in PPRO, or making virtual clips like in Premiere 6.5. Please advice. Thanks. Ozzie Alfonso February 24th, 2004, 12:30 PM To get to Console: >tools>console -- also Ctrl +6 (or command 6 on a Mac) That's as far as I can take you since I rarely go that route. Clint Comer February 25th, 2004, 12:36 AM But isn't this windows update here for a reason? IS there no other way? Glenn Chan February 25th, 2004, 01:17 AM The updates usually tell you what they're supposed to do. Some of them fix security holes, some fix bugs, etc. You are likely more productive without the update than with it. If you can't run Avid then I don't see you being very productive. Christopher Go February 25th, 2004, 08:47 AM If I remember correctly, that fix is for a local security exploit rather than for a remote one so you should be fine as long as your computer is yours to use. Does anyone else have access to it? I doubt family members could make use of that exploit anyway, afterall, with physical access to a machine there are a lot more easier ways to mess with a machine. As Glenn noted, you're fine without the "fix". Tony Pham February 25th, 2004, 06:18 PM Anyone, Help???? John Lee February 25th, 2004, 08:02 PM Hi Tony, I use Xpress DV 3.5.4, very similar to pro. However, I haven't gotten to nesting filters yet. I think you should try the forums over at www.avid.com I've been able to get a lot of technical support from some Avid experts there. Registration is free. Tony Pham February 26th, 2004, 12:02 AM Hi John, thanks for your reply. But I didn't mean nesting Filters. I meant nesting Sequences. However, thanks for your advice. I went to avid and was able to get the solution. Thanks again. Alexis Vazquez February 26th, 2004, 06:44 AM Dont Update yours OS (MAC/PC) until its aproved by AVID. Thats AVID Golden rule!. You need to verify first at Avid web site if "x" update is approved, if its not don't install it, it would get you into constant headaches. Alexis Martin Garrison February 26th, 2004, 08:48 AM Tony, I didn't think you could do that in Avid, please share what you learned. Tony Pham February 26th, 2004, 12:01 PM Hi Martin, It's possible to nest sequences in Avid. All we have to do is load the sequence into the source monitor and treat it as a clip. Set in and out point then load it into a new sequence. Just a side note, don't double clip on the sequence (doing it that only opens that sequence). We should drag the sequence to the source monitor instead. Hope this helps. Ronnie Grahn February 26th, 2004, 07:21 PM There's a fix for the KB824141 bug available: http://www.avid.com/community/forums/Forum38/HTML/003530.html. John Lee February 28th, 2004, 04:32 PM I use the GL2, typically the generic dv capture template. Apparantly this is a standard problem. AVID just lags behind the camera during firewire capture. Since I've adjusted and I shoot around the problem, it hasn't been an issue anymore. AVID is really picky about broken timecode, and most of the footage I was capturing back when I posted this question was stuff I did when I was quite a novice, so there were a lot of broken timecodes. Craig Moreschini March 3rd, 2004, 01:17 PM I shot a fiction feature using a JVC GY-DV500, but I still have to shoot a separate story thread for it. I have been offline editing it on Avid Express Pro, with plans to batch capture the footage again after I’ve transferred it to DigitalBeta and then do an Online edit on a more sturdy Avid. - Anyway I’m in a money crunch waiting around to shoot these final scenes, and I wouldn’t mind a smaller camera. Reading about the JVC GR-HD1U, I am wondering a few things: I’ve read about methods for editing footage on Premiere and Final Cut, but I’m wondering how I can edit on my Avid? o Can I take the down converted SD it outputs and do a frame accurate edit in Avid and then match back to the HD with an EDL? In one of the bundled software packages the JVC GR-HD1U comes with, can I import an EDL? o What other avenues might anyone suggest? I don’t think Avid supports HD projects on Pro unless they’re 23.976p. I am of the impression that it doesn’t support uncompressed AVIs. - So, if this is possible, I guess I’d offhand be thinking that I’d batch capture from my timeline the (existing) SD MiniDV uncompressed then output (digital cut) to DigitalBeta, or maybe directly to D-5 master (along with the footage from the JVC GR-HD1U). In terms of getting the best quality masters, does anyone see a problem with this thinking? - I have some friends that might be able to swing this Online work for cheap, but if not, for festival submissions and non-disturbed theatre showings, would the following work? - Could I up-convert my own prior SD output to this camera and do a simple assemble edit (of the Avid edited output and the HD edited in either Avid or one of the free programs) in one of these free programs (or maybe a friend’s Premiere or Final Cut Pro) and then output to D-VHS or something as a (optimistically) temporary master? Also, does anyone know of a site where I could download clips of these panning problems that occur with the JVC GR-HD1U? Heath McKnight March 4th, 2004, 07:17 PM I don't think Avid supports HDV yet... As far as a capture card converting HDV, AJA's Kona HD card seems to be the best so far, going from HDV to HD with no problems. You edit with Final Cut Pro, though... heath Craig Moreschini March 5th, 2004, 06:02 AM I have been reading a bunch of things, avenues for editing this HD footage, but I think I maybe missing some things . . . First, is there a FAQ regarding editing the HD output from this camera somewhere? Second, I am considering that it maybe better if I just get a G5 and Final Cut Pro to edit this footage. And when I say just I don’t mean that I have unlimited money, more in I was considering getting a G5 anyway and am looking for the most cost effective solution. That said, I was under the impression that I could output uncompressed footage via firewire to the computer, and that I’d only need secondary software (like maybe this http://www.heuris.com/MPEGProducts/IndieHDToolkit/indie.htm ) to edit uncompressed in Final Cut Pro. Am I wrong about this, would I still some sort of card? Or is the card (I was confused about what I was reading on the AJA page) for capturing/converting SD to HD? Which is something that I am particularly interested in doing. Now I know there are many shades between working to create the best quality Masters and the economy of DIY on your own desktop. But what I’d like to do is create something that would look good to project at a festival, produce festival submissions, and a website; and make it easy to up to full HD or the best quality possible when I later have the money without completely reediting the everything. Can I do this on a G5 with Final Cut Pro? Is there a FAQ/tread in existence specifically for this? And if not, what barebones additional hardware/software would I need for the G5? Also, offhand in terms of GB to minutes, what is the conversion when we are talking about uncompressed output from this camera? Heath McKnight March 5th, 2004, 08:52 AM There is only one solution, and it's from Heuris, as far as an official Apple editing solution is concerned. http://www.heuris/com Some other ideas are floating around including these: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16812 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20387 and more...(I can't seem to find some of them). heath Craig Moreschini March 5th, 2004, 09:21 AM Okay, I found two good beginner treads which answer a lot of general questions: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19556 For general editing solutions explained, and PC: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17012 Mac: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22019 For lots of software issues. Also, here for a discussion of TC issues: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21696 I also understand now the difference between HDV and HD, basically. I guess if one wanted to up convert to regular HD, which I guess is the purpose of this card. I also was offered some solutions in the Avid Community forum: http://www.avid.com/community/forums/Forum38/HTML/003675.html But basically, for the time being, I think it would be better to edit in another NLE other then Avid, either Premiere for PC and Final Cut Pro in Mac, based on what I’ve read so far. . . In terms of converting SD DV to HD, it seems it would be best to edit a project first in Premiere or Final Cut Pro in SD, and then import the footage in to a HD project where it would be converted/resized to HD. Is my thinking on this correct? I am still thinking about getting the G5, and hoping by the end of the NBA there are some cheap solutions for Final Cut Pro. Maggie Goldwasser March 8th, 2004, 09:56 AM I am about to purchase my own editing software and after a bit of research I have found that Pinnacle Liquid 5.5 seems to be a very good, easy to use program. I'm wondering if anyone out there uses it and has any input for me. Or if you want to suggest an alternative, please do. thanks. Richard Troost March 8th, 2004, 11:53 AM Check your graphic card, Pinnacle and Nvidia is not a happy marriage. Pinnacle did not use the windows GUI for Edition, so you have to learn it al over again. But, you can arrange all the tools in the way you like, you can put all the icons you need above the timeline. Liquid Edition has an amazing pair of color correction tools -I don't believe that there is a program that can get close- and it's also very well explained, so you will be knowing why, how en when in no time. They have a very smooth "timewarp"a slow/fast over which you have very detailed control. They use the GPU for a lot a effect/transitions so you can try things out and watch the effect immidiatly. you get a lot of transisions and effect with the program on top of that you get Hollywoodfx 5.1 with even more effects and transisions. and, without all the pull down, pop-ups and click them aways it's also easy on the eyes! The complete reference manual is on-line, so you do not have to buy it unless -like me- you prefer to read from paper. And, not for you but a lot of people like this, you can almost for sure get a copy in your own language. Even if your English is good, it's always nice to do some tasks, and read a manual!, in your own language. There is a lot more, you can look at some instruction video's at Pinnacle's site, they are also a very good start for editting www.pinnaclesys.com/PBN/default2.asp?Langue_ID=6&loc=lMen541 (It's a dutch language link, don't know the number for English, but you can read the important stuff, that's in English.) And when you scroll down, you will find even more stuff, some from before Liquid, just Edition, but you can learn from them too! And here is an excellent site in -Brittish- English about Edition e.o. www.mikeshaw.co.uk/studio_users.htm#Interface%20overvie When you would ask me wat to buy, I would know the answer :) Glenn Chan March 8th, 2004, 06:17 PM Each NLE has its own strengths and weaknesses. Figure out what kind of material you want to edit and then see which NLE seems to be the best match. A lot of them have demos (Premiere Pro, Vegas, Avid free DV which is a very crippled version of Avid, etc.). I like Vegas because it's really powerful video-wise (good color correction and compositing tools), the best NLE for audio editing hands down (Vegas started out as a multitrack editor), and very stable. A downside to Vegas is that it renders slow, and probably won't touch Edition in that area. I suggest you try the demo and download the shortcut keys thing stickied in the Vegas forum on dvinfo.net. Denis Murphy March 8th, 2004, 08:03 PM I apologise for this basic question, the answer to which I have just spent several hours seeking throughout the net, to no avail. Here's my predicament. Helping to edit a short film, shot on 16mm 25fps, transferred to PAL video. Sound recorded at 25fps to DAT. We have captured the telecined video, as well as the DAT audio, to media composer. Now we have to sync sound and video so we can edit! Can anyone point me in the direction of a good workflow for this? Intuitively it seems to me we must create a sequence for every video take and drop in the corresponding synced audio take, then use these sequences as "clips" for our edit. Is this correct? And what is this autosync in Avid and how can it help me?? ANy help appreciated. And feel free to trash my "intuitive" workflow! Emmet Lucey March 9th, 2004, 12:17 AM I second Richard's post, & would add that you should be very very careful to check your hardware / software compatability b4 going with edition. Suggestion: go to the LE 5 web board general area, & post a detailed spec of your hardware, drivers, & all installed software that you need to keep on your machine. Let folks comment. I say this because while i have been very happy with LE 5.5 (despite a very steep learning curve) i have witnessed unbelievable horror sagas of people putting alot of money, time, & frustration trying to get it to function smoothly on non dedicated systems. ( Can you say "os re-install" ?) I would also add that all the real time effects are very dependent on a fast, well defragged 3 + g machine with a solid 1 g ram. Do not count on tech support from pinnacle. there is none. That much said, if you get it running smoothly & learn it, she's a beauty :-) Jacques Mersereau March 9th, 2004, 08:20 AM I am a little confused too ;) What kind of show are you working on? Long form? (That would be my first guess.) Is this a documentary with lots of source footage? A DAT tape of audio (now in the computer) for every film reel? It appears like you want to meld your video and audio together (same clip) in long hunks, so when you want to take a second or two out of a long hunk, the right audio comes along with the video? Is this correct? What kind of VTR are you working with? Denis Murphy March 9th, 2004, 01:17 PM Thanks for the reply Jacques, Just realized I posted this in the PC rather than mac version of this forum. I am using mac but probably doesn't make too much difference philosophically, right? It's just a short film - 5 mins. We have footage and DAT audio for approx 90 camera setups with multiple takes. Footage was shot on 25fps 16mm film and transferred to PAL beta for offline. The final cut will be re-telecined from the orginal film negative. We have digitized all takes of film and audio. Audio was captured in long clips then subclipped into individual takes. It now has to be married to the audio as the budget did not stretch to having audio synced to the telecined film! It seems I have found the solution, but correct me if I am wrong: 1. Double click video clip to open in source monitor. Set inpoint on clapperboard clap. 2. Double click corresponding audio subclip to open in source monitor. Again, set inpoint on clapperboard clap. 3. Select both clips in the bin, the select bin>autosync. In ensuing dialog box, check "sync to inpoint" This creates a copy of the clip with synced audio, which we then use to edit. Related question: the audio was recorded at 48kHz on DAT, but captured (via analog outs from DAT deck looped through betacam deck) at 44.1 kHz as this was the default setting in the system. Will this cause any problems? Also, audio levels seem to be increasing on capture and are too hot. What might be causing this? Is it a case of adjusting output from beta deck? Again, sorry for the basic questions. More accustomed to cutting miniDV material with pre-synced audio in FCP!! Thanks for any help you might have. Jacques Mersereau March 9th, 2004, 02:58 PM <<<-- Originally posted by Denis Murphy : It seems I have found the solution, but correct me if I am wrong: 1. Double click video clip to open in source monitor. Set inpoint on clapperboard clap. . . .<SNIP> Sounds right to me, especially if it works :) <<<Related question: the audio was recorded at 48kHz on DAT, but captured (via analog outs from DAT deck looped through betacam deck) at 44.1 kHz as this was the default setting in the system. Will this cause any problems?>>> That depends on how you plan to deliver the final product. You could start over and reset the Avid to 48kHz and then take the digital outs of the DAT deck and get (almost) lossless digital transfer, but it sounds like you may be "down the road" aways and that will take a lot of time to go back. There shouldn't be a problem other than some fidelity loss due analog transfer/digitize. <<<Audio levels seem to be increasing on capture and are too hot. What might be causing this? Is it a case of adjusting output from beta deck?>>> I am not sure which MC you are working on, nor am I sure about your beta output as to whether both machines are working at +4dB or -10dB. Avid's with the Audio Media III card are set at -12dB, so if you send it a -10dB signal you'd be increasing the volume a bit which would give you overs on your peak levels. Of course if you are sending +4dB audio out from the deck to a -12dB Avid, then you'd be KILLING the avid . . . distortion city! Again, I don't know what gear you're working with exactly. Robert Martens March 9th, 2004, 05:14 PM Honestly, I have a fairly modest system that runs Edition just fine. Athlon XP 2600, 512 RAM, single (gasp!) 80GB hard drive, 64MB Quadro DCC. I've had my fair share of quirks and complications, but nothing that required a total reformat. And get this: I have other stuff installed, too! Games, compositing software, all sorts of crap. Never been a problem. Though I did take the precaution of wiping and reorganizing my whole computer the other day--separate partitions for the OS, programs, and data, you know the drill, in the interest of maintaining my sanity. Gets to be quite a pain, trying to keep everything ordered properly. In short, system clutter and a lack of dedication (that could be read two different ways, and they're both correct) have not hindered my Edition installation. Judging by the various Edition boards around the net, though, I'm one of the lucky guys. The fact that I'm a computer nerd doesn't hurt either; what may be an enormous problem for a normal person doesn't get me all that upset. System configuration problems, that sorta thing--no big deal. Being a dork has surely tainted my perspective on these issues. Gotta love the big P. :) George Ellis March 9th, 2004, 06:34 PM Same boat as Robert. I have a P4 1.6a with 384MB of memory running Liquid Edition. Some stuff is slow because of memory, but totally workable. The DVD authoring is good, but there are still some features that I would like. The render and effects are great. Audio, at a base is OK. Pinnacle bought the company that makes Wavelab. If you buy the full package right now, you get Wavelab for free. As far as Nvidia goes, there are some driver sets that are problematic. I use an ATI Radeon 7500 All-In-Wonder effectively. But, I am lusting for a dual Nacona Xeon with the next gen ATI card. Robert Martens March 9th, 2004, 06:46 PM Indeed--an otherwise unincredible system will do quite nicely, so long as you're not dependent on realtime effects. Funny thing about the realtime stuff; ever wonder WHY Pinnacle left the "Classic" versions of the things in there? Well, according to most people, myself included, the RT stuff doesn't look as good as the old stuff. Close, yes, but not quite. Furthermore, there are a few options/settings here and there that exist in the Classic effects but not in the GPU versions. And while the GPU effects let you play back footage from the timeline in real time (with a fast enough system, of course), at the end of the day, you STILL have to render everything to export a file. I never use the GPU editors (as they're called in Edition), personally. I feel I should also point out that even Edition 4.5 had the ability to write DVDs. No menu design, no, but for straight ahead disc burning, you never had to leave the application. The new color correction tools, well, THOSE are some impressive doohickies, lemme tell ya. Clint Comer March 10th, 2004, 01:00 AM cool, thanks. Frederic Lumiere March 12th, 2004, 11:01 PM Craig, You are on the right track. One of your questions is which NLE you should use. My answer to this would be to not choose your NLE based on its ability to edit HDV. Ultimately, they all will handle this format natively. But rather, choose your NLE based on its features and your comfort level with the software. You mentioned editing HDV in an offline approach. Editing your footage in SD and onlining it in HDV. Yes, I think this is the most feasible in FCP to date. Heuris, unfortunately requires you to render your timeline, and most editors find this unacceptable for their productivity. They want to keep all the benefits they enjoy in SD today (Realtime effects, monitoring on NTSC, realtime playing, etc.) The only rectification to the description of the approach is that you wouldn't up-convert but online your project. The difference being that you replace your SD clips with source HDV (QuickTime compatible) clips using the media manager in FCP. The great advantage with this approach is that you get to edit your HDV footage using the equipment you've invested in for SD. And this does not require you to buy a G5. You can accomplish this task very well with a dual G4. Alon Levi March 17th, 2004, 02:47 AM Hello There, I'm using my XM-2 (GL-2 pal version) for quite some time now. up until now i've edited using avid xpress version 3.5, but recently I upgraded to dv pro v4.0; I'm almost always using the XM-2 frame mode (which imitate progressive scan, at 25 frames/sec) - which worked just fine with the 3.5; but when exporting single image from the pro, I found out that interlacing lines are visible; i've also noticed them when exporting uncompressed AVI; I've compered then to the clean and non-interlaced frame-grabbed i've exported from the v3.5 - and we are talking the same OMF files... and the diffrence was heart-breaking. now, my version 4 dv pro has an option to start an 23.9p NTSC project but not 25p PAL (it is mention as possible in the guide, but unavaialbe in the readme). is that only a problem with the single-image exporting? when I d/l back to the camera will it be ok? anyone knows how to fix this problem ? TIA, Alon. Christian Stormbom March 17th, 2004, 02:23 PM Alon, yes this is a well known bug in all of the Xpress Pro 4 versions that is 4.0,4.1, 4.1.1, and 1104.1.1. The 1104.1.1 has 25p as standard and it works great. So what to do - you should wait a day or two and then the 4.3 will be aviable at Avids web- site free for registred users of Xpress Pro. This will give you both the 25p option and corrected frame and QT and QT ref export.(By the way there is no problem when you export back to camera with your present version). Christian Dwight Flynn March 29th, 2004, 01:49 PM Help, I have an amd athlon64 with dual monitors and one gig ram. I have noticed when I use Avid xpress pro (v 4.1 and 4.3) with the dual monitors the system freeze on startup at the point that it says "initializing openGL effects". Does anyone know how I can fix this problem. Thanks Richard Alvarez March 29th, 2004, 02:30 PM Try the folks at www.avid.com they're pretty good about fast replies. Jason R. Wood April 3rd, 2004, 05:44 AM DL this fix. Follow the link. http://support.avid.com/support/prodref.nsf/AdminProbSolByProduct/B9C2B5F9F560E18185256E45005DD188?OpenDocument Michael Wisniewski April 17th, 2004, 05:18 PM Any advice on how to "think" in Avid when coming from Vegas? Notes: I need to learn Avid for an upcoming project and I've only really used Vegas and Pinnacle Studio 7. Of course, I'm getting the Avid tutorial DVDs asap. Federico Prieto April 17th, 2004, 05:24 PM First at all....I am a Vegas user (and fan) In my opinion AVID is very easy to handle.....Just Read the manual carefully and make son exercises. If you dedicate one or two full days to the AVID editor you will work with it without problems....No like an expert but enough for to make your job.... Richard Alvarez April 17th, 2004, 09:43 PM Download Avid FreeDv for free. Get a feel for the interface. Many more bells and whistels of course on the Pro version, but at least you can learn where the menus are, how the timeline works... Manuel Albarracin May 11th, 2004, 03:30 PM Can avid and dvstorm live together in one computer. Will AVid and the Dvstorm card plus software, the software that comes with it, (e.g. Adobe Premiere, etc..) installed in one computer probably cause havoc... Does anyone have the same configuration where in both of them are installed. Coz I donot want to buy another computer for each of them. Present system: Dual Xeon, SATA drives in RAID thanks guys Martin Garrison May 18th, 2004, 10:36 PM We've been running some multiburst test on our Avid Mojo system. In these tests we found one serious flaw. The DAC is noisy and shows substantial high frequency loss. If we run the same signal out via firewire to our dsr1500 and use the sony DACs the signal integrity is substantially improved. I'm wondering if other people have noticed the same or if perhaps we recieved a problem unit. I would like to say otherwise the unit shows good bandwidth. The ADC side is fine and the codec internally seems to operate very well. (There is an anomoly where input signals, captured at dv25, are cropped at 100ire, but we haven't figured out exactly what's going on there.) Rob Lohman May 19th, 2004, 03:11 AM I have no experience with that system, but for it being a professional system I would not find that good enough. Perhaps something is faulty with the hardware? Arnold San Diego May 28th, 2004, 03:08 AM Hello all! Just wanted to see what kind of camcorders people are using with Pinnacle Liquid Edition. I'm shopping around for a 3ccd and have narrowed it to either a GL2, AG-DVC80 or a VX2100. I'd appreciate any input on anyone's experience with those 3 Camcorders and Liquid Edition Thanks in advance! Arnold George Ellis May 28th, 2004, 09:06 AM I know folks using GL2s. I use a VX2100. I do not remember if the 80a does 24p, as LE does not support 24p. Otherwise, any IEEE1394 camera that I have seen works with LE. |