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Fellipe de Paula
May 28th, 2008, 08:42 PM
Although it's a codec topic and it should be in another forum, I would like to know which codec you guys from wedding videography use for capture and export?

I'm totally newbie in this point because I used to use matrox, but now I'm alone with firewire...

thx

Fellipe de Paula
May 29th, 2008, 11:33 AM
I was searching and cineform showed up for me... Is this the only thing I need to buy to capture, render, export and make a great quality DVD?

Taky Cheung
May 29th, 2008, 11:39 AM
You can edit .mpeg or .m2t. then export to MPEG-2 for DVD authoring. You can skip intermediate codec.

You can also, if you are a matrox customer, login to see if you can download RT.X2 ver 2 VFW driver. They forgot to lock that version so you can use the MPEG2 I-FRame HD Codec as intermedia codec.

Fellipe de Paula
May 29th, 2008, 11:46 AM
But, for editing mpeg or m2t I do need a codec. Don't I? Which one? Thx

Taky Cheung
May 29th, 2008, 11:50 AM
Depends on which NLE you use. For example, Premiere and VEgas can both edit MPEG and M2t.

Have you considered getting the Matrox RT.X2 LE card?

Fellipe de Paula
May 29th, 2008, 12:10 PM
hmm... the problem is: It's for a laptop :)
I'll have a desktop too, but I would like to use just my firewire...
I use Premiere cs3, and vegas (just for highlights clip)...

So I don't need any thirdparty codec? It's just a matter of project settings?

Thanks :)

Taky Cheung
May 29th, 2008, 12:13 PM
a decent power laptop can edit .mpeg or .m2t. YOu don't need any codec.

The other way you can try is "proxy editing" or "bait and switch editing". You simply convert the HD file to a low quality AVI. Then edit with those AVIs in your laptop. before rendering output, reload the project in your desktop. Then Premiere will prompt you where are the source file. You then point it to the original HD files. Now you can render the HQ output.

Fellipe de Paula
May 29th, 2008, 12:15 PM
Ive bought a great laptop. C2D 2.4Ghz - 4gb DDR2 - Geforce 8400 - Sony vaio fz4000

I didn't know premiere can capture direct to MPEG... Good to know :) It's better than avi, isn't it?

Taky Cheung
May 29th, 2008, 12:17 PM
Yeah Premiere can capture to .mpeg. Or you can use a free tool called HDVSplit, it will capture to .m2t.

Premiere is much happier editing AVi file instead of MPEG. but you don't have HD codec, editing .mpeg or .m2t with premiere will be just fine.

Just beware when you import the .mpeg file to the project, it takes Premiere a while to index, conform and generate peak files.

You should also upgrade to 3.2. Prior to that version, there're video/audio unsync issue if there's any video drop out within mpeg video clip.

Fellipe de Paula
May 29th, 2008, 12:22 PM
I tried but I have only two opitions: DV Capture and HDV Capture (And there is no setting or configuration button) Where should I go?

Taky Cheung
May 29th, 2008, 12:23 PM
You start a HDV project 1080i30(60i) timeline preset. Then capture just like DV. You are not capturing DV, it's HDV.

Like I said, the other way is to use the tool HDVSplit

Fellipe de Paula
May 29th, 2008, 12:29 PM
I'm not capturing hdv :) yet, I hope :) It's sd :(

At the presets screen I only have a few options like: DV - DV NTSC

Taky Cheung
May 29th, 2008, 12:30 PM
If you are working on SD matierial, start your DV preset and capture.

Taky Cheung
May 29th, 2008, 12:32 PM
I thought you were asking about HDV editing. If you are doing DV, you will be capturing DV-AVI files. There's already a DV codec built-in that you can use. No need to worry about paying for a third party codec.

Fellipe de Paula
May 29th, 2008, 12:34 PM
And when I finish and it's time to export? Which settings for opening into encore?

Taky Cheung
May 29th, 2008, 12:35 PM
you can either export to another DV-AVI and encode. Or you can just use Adobe Media Encoder to encode to MPEG-2 DVD. But I can tell you Adobe Media Encoder mpeg-2 engine sucks. The quality output is really bad.

Fellipe de Paula
May 29th, 2008, 12:38 PM
Encode AVI in Adobe Encore? That's the way I do, but when I play it on my 37" lcd it's a kind of "pixelized"... What could be? Do you have a clue?

Taky Cheung
May 29th, 2008, 12:39 PM
Encore won't encode AVI. It takes AVI or other format to encode to DVD MPEG-2 format or BluRay format. So obviously you aren't sure what you are doing :)

Fellipe de Paula
May 29th, 2008, 12:43 PM
Ops... I wrote wrong... I import AVI into encore and so its encode to mpeg2-dvd... I think Encore encoder isn't good... Because I export one clip from vegas already in mp2 and the quality at TV was better...

Taky Cheung
May 29th, 2008, 12:45 PM
You are correct! Adobe license MainConcept to encode MPEG and they suck! Only if you can encode in high bitrate that it looks acceptable. Otherwise, fading from black is just horrible. I stop using AME. Now I'm using Procoder to encode MPEG-2. The output is excellent.

Fellipe de Paula
May 29th, 2008, 12:47 PM
Does Procoder encodes directly from the premiere timeline?

Fellipe de Paula
May 29th, 2008, 01:00 PM
Cineform would be the same as procoder?