hey guys would you suggest me buying the Sony 820 and turning it over, or buying a microX so i can continue on using the built in monitor? Im on a Canon A1 with a redrock thanks =D

All of the 7" pro monitors I have seen have the same 800x480 resolution.
The only difference is HD input capability but since this is only SD resolution it shouldn't make much difference.
It is a question of scaling in the camera or monitor. For PAL it will be both.
Component input would be a bit better but at this price compared to a pro monitor who is complaining.
I have often looked at portable and car players and wondered how they would work. Some even have a detachable second monitor.
Thanks for the tip.
Malcolm

Anyone want to share their mounting solutions? The sony FX811 works great for me btw.

All of the 7" pro monitors I have seen have the same 800x480 resolution.
The only difference is HD input capability but since this is only SD resolution it shouldn't make much difference.
It is a question of scaling in the camera or monitor. For PAL it will be both.
Component input would be a bit better but at this price compared to a pro monitor who is complaining.


There is something going on with video deinterlacing. The LCD displays shows the green overlay text (say, "Line In") with perfect sharpness, but DVD played from the internal DVD player look mushy.

There is something going on with video deinterlacing. The LCD displays shows the green overlay text (say, "Line In") with perfect sharpness, but DVD played from the internal DVD player look mushy.

I don't get that at all on mine. I've yet to see a DVD that wasn't sharp... video or text.

I don't get that at all on mine. I've yet to see a DVD that wasn't sharp... video or text.

Hmmm. Every Sony FX820 I've seen has soft DVD video when compared to the bright green overlay text that is seen when you switch to the Video Input. I think we have differences in what we call Sharp. I'm not surprised that composite video input is not sharp, but I would expect the DVDs to be sharper.

For mounting hardware you might want to take a look at Ram Mount systems http://ram-mount.com - they have a large number of components you can put together to mount all kinds of equipment. They probably have a clamp component that could be mated with a ball & socket mount, etc.

Does anyone have a good and stable idea to attach it to the tripod or camera?
I still want to use it sometimes to film protests, so It should be "movable"
Does anyone have ideas?




PS: I am new here, I hope I can learn from this board and it topics.

While in Japan, I saw a 12" LCD on a portable DVD player in the Shinjuku district. As I was hurrying by with my wife, I had no opportunity to write down the maker and model.

Can someone tell what cable I need? I read composite, but I am not that good in english. Can someone make a picture or show a picture of that cable? Or give a name of it?

To connect the DVD player with my camera (it does have component out)

Can someone tell what cable I need? I read composite, but I am not that good in english. Can someone make a picture or show a picture of that cable? Or give a name of it?

To connect the DVD player with my camera (it does have component out)

looks to me like the fx820 only has a composite video input in the form of a female miniplug jack.

So, assuming that your camera has a composite output, the cable would look something like this:
http://www.microsoft.com/library/media/1033/windowsxp/mediacenter/images/en-us/SU_SurSnd04.jpg

It really helps to read all threads. This has been covered already.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost.php?p=888379&postcount=90

then again Daniel doesn't mention what camera he has :)

Here is an interesting 1280x768 7" LCD kit posted in a thread on dpreview.com . The interesting part is that the ability to mount the LCD with a long tether to the main board. I could see the LCD on a very thin jib arm while the rest of the package would sit in the back of a shoulder mount brace such as the Vortex. I wonder how sturdy the LCD. The remote control is interesting. I wonder if there is any support for zooming.

7" LCD at 1280x768
http://www.manhattanlcd.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1000&Show=TechSpecs

10.9" Toshiba 1366x768
http://www.manhattanlcd.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1001

15.4" Samsung at 1900x1200
(1900 probably a typo as specs say it supports 1920x1080)
http://www.manhattanlcd.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1004

I pondered many design options for mounting this thing last night, then went out over lunch today to see what parts I could find. Here's what I picked up:

1 Drum Cymbal Boom Arm - $10
1 Multi-Purpose Clamp (probably for drums) - $10
1 Small Piece of 16 gauge Sheet Metal - $8
2 Strips of 4"x2" Velcro - $2.50


Nice design. I finally shot an event, an hour+ concert at my church
using the Sony DVD player as monitor. What a difference from using
either the camcorder LCD or laptop screen! I am not going back!

I think it's time I made this mounting option happen TODAY.

15.4" Samsung at 1900x1200
(1900 probably a typo as specs say it supports 1920x1080)
Manhattan LCD (http://www.manhattanlcd.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1004)


There are other kits that cost a little less. I'd prefer something a little less than 15" for 1920x1080. Does anyone know which scalers I should look for on the board? I'm wondering if a 12" 1280x768 would work better, but I'm worried about the scaling from 1920x1080p.

I just pre-ordered this monitor:

Manhattan LCD (http://www.manhattanlcd.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=23)

Some of the numbers are typos, but it appears to be his 10.9" Toshiba LCD kit with a custom case. HDMI/component input, 1366x768. 1.5 lbs for under $600. If this dream feature set/price could be improved upon, it would only be to deliver 1080p with a 2x, 4x localized zooming function similar to what you see on a D3/D300/D700/D90 Nikon DSLR.

Nice find, Gints. Love to hear your evaluation once you get it.

Gints, I'd be interested in your opinion as well.

I do however wonder how straight up a company is that only shows an email address for contact info :-\

Gints, I'd be interested in your opinion as well.

I do however wonder how straight up a company is that only shows an email address for contact info :-\

Yes, this is a bit of a gamble. However, the Manhattan LCD fellow did reply to my questions promptly. I get the feel that it's a one man operation, and that man has a limited command of English judging from the email we've exchanged. He's doing something special, and it's a hard opportunity to pass up.

He's probably legit. It's just an observation of mine :) I do wonder where the location is, and I assume NY, but could also be Manhattan Beach Ca, which I'd just run down there to demo this unit before an order if it was :)

I noticed some incorrect grammar on the site, so you're probably right.

Again, good luck & let us all know the results.

*edit* Upon looking at the "terms & conditions" (I was looking for the return policy the FAQ's directs to, but there's nothing other than NO REFUNDS), it looks as if they do biz in the state of Calif., (in Miscellaneous) so he very well may be somewhere local.

Re: the LCD "manufacturer" Gints mentions.

Quick caution: do a Google search on the URL and follow the link to the HV20/HV30 forum for more info.

Thanks. I found more positive words here :

Http://www.manhattanlcd.com/ - Lumenlab (http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=23647)

I just received a reply from Manhattan LCD stating that they are in Orlando, FL.

Good. I didn't REALLY doubt the seller but Caveat Emptor, right?

With this HD monitor on the way, I'm selling my Sony FX820 portable DVD player monitor. Send me an email and make an offer.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/private-classifieds/129435-sd-monitor-sony-fx820-dvd-player.html

Which is better? They are both around the same price.


http://lcd4video.com/products.php?product=7%E2%80%9D-LCD-Monitor-Studio-Bundle-w{47}-12v-Battery-Kit

or

DVP-FX820 | Portable DVD Player - Black | Sony | SonyStyle USA (http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665368411)

Which is better? They are both around the same price.


I've owned the Sony FX820 and haven't seen the other LCD kit. The weird thing about the LCD kit is the 1440x234 resolution. Very odd combination of high horizontal rez and low vertical rez. Both appear to have low viewing angles. Though, the Sony's inputs are very soft anyway ev en though it advertizes 800x480. On-screen text overlays are sharp, but corners on DVD menu are soft. It's not just that the component input isn't great, but there is some issue with NTSC deinterlacing the produces an excessively soft image. The Sony FX820 is the best of the portable DVD player bunch under $300 as I tested a dozen. I would be wary about image softness due to the low vertical rez of the 4LCD kit, so let us know how well it works. It advertises a horizontal flip option, but you need a vertical flip if you use one of the 35mm adapters. I liked that the Sony FX820 allowed you to fold and invert its screen for the image flip.

1440x234 is in fact 480x234, because sometime the horizontal pixel count is expressed in RGB mode. (you got 3 physical pixels to make one image dot).

This thread got me thinking as I wanted something to allow for easy viewing at sporting events. I have had a portable DVD Player for some time which has not gotten a whole lot of use. I think it will get more attention now :)

I'm ordering a couple of the little Sony's today, so thanks for the tip guys.

In terms of mounting, I was hoping to do something self contained.

I came across this: Hot Shoe Mount to L Bracket at Markertek.com (http://www.markertek.com/Product.asp?cat=VIDEOEQUIP&subcat=CAMERAGEAR&prodclass=HOTSHOE&baseitem=TE%2DLBRAC&search=0&off=0&showreturn=0&utm_source=gbase&utm_medium=shoppingengine&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_campaign=sf)

and I'm wondering (not knowing the weight of the Sony) if the XLH1's shoe would be sturdy enough to support it?

Question 2, the XLH1 comes with a metal bracket that screws on the back, which I believe is a battery mounting option of the "V" type. I wonder if there is a mounting option there? Do only batteries mount with the "V" system, or could I for instance pick up the appropriate male "V" piece and attach that to the back of the Sony?

Matthew

I picked up the FX820 and need the right cord for my FX1. I have component out and s-video out. I read the earlier posts, but don't see how that would work. Ideas?

Dana, according to the manual, the FX1 has a composite video/audio output via a mini-jack.

I guess there are two options... purchase a male-male 3 RCA adapter piece and join the camera's mini-jack cable to the Player's RCA-Minijack cable, or, for a far more elegant solution, make a mini-jack to mini-jack cable and dispense with the adapters.

If you choose the latter, you'll have to do a bit of fooling about to see which bit of the mini-jack maps to what (I'm not sure if there is a standard).

If you only want vision, then all you need do is join the yellow output rca to the yellow input RCA with a single male-male adapter.

It's funny you should post this today as my two 870's just arrived this morning! All good so far, though I am searching for a good mounting solution for them. I really would love to attach them to the camera in some way.

Matthew

iKan has just introduce V8000HDe, a replacement for the V8000HD, same price, but allows multiple options of DV battery

It should be working but it isn't. I'm using yellow rca 1/8" males for the connection, and the only thing I see on the player is a black screen with 'Line In' on the upper left. The menus don't help. I could try S-video to RCA, but it seems like this should work. I tried both filming mode and VCR mode. Thoughts?

Another cam I want to use is an HC3 and has HDMI and Firewire out. Would either work?

Dana, if we can just go back one step: check to see that you are using the specific LINE IN video cable that comes with the player. It has three male RCA plugs on one end and two 3.5 minijack plugs on the other, one of them a yellow MONO plug, the other a black STEREO plug.

The reason I ask is that when I first hooked mine up I was using the triple-collar yellow minijack lead. This is the WRONG one.

HDMI and Firewire are both digital and the player will only take analogue signals, so you're out of luck there. But according the manual I just downloaded, the HC3 does have the combination audio/video composite out in the form of a minijack marked "A/V", just like the FX1.

Hope this helps.

matthew

Thank you Michael,

Yes, that is the adapter I'm using. I have it plugged into three couplers and a 3-RCA to an 1/8th mono plug. I guess my next step is to hook it to a dvd player to make sure it's not the Sony player.

that would be a sensible next step.

I'm only guessing now (as I don't own that camera) but it would be worth looking through the camera menu and see if that port is configurable. For instance on my canon I can send it SD or HD. On some camcorders you can set it to be AV or Headphone out.

Like I said, just guessing, but worth a look.

MP

I'm not familiar with the FX1, but is it possible there's either a menu setting or a switch on the body for allowing composite signal out?

*edit* dang! I didn't see the last post prior to mine until I hit enter to post. Weird :-\

Just thought I'd throw this out: Fry's Electronics has the Sony DVP820 on sale for $149.00 USD. I bought one about two hours ago and have been playing with it on my XL2. Looks good. Not a perfect match to the viewfinder's colors, but I can tweak it close. My plan for the moment is to use it for critical focus in production shots, and as a directors' monitor. That should cut down on the usual question, "well, did it look good?" It's also slated to become a jib monitor.

Next up is a tripod mount for it.

Regards;
Martin

I was out shopping yesterday and happened to see a "caddy" for portable DVD players that's designed to clamp onto the headrest bars of a car's front seat (facing back).

It got me thinking that those bars wouldn't be disimilar to the top part of my Miller tripods...

I've been racking my brain trying to come up with a good mount for this unit (still havn't ruled out using the battery bracket that comes with the camera, sadly it makes the unit just slightly too long for the case I have).

If anyone has any truly elegant and simple mounting ideas, do share!

MP

Anyone knows if this might just be a piece of poop: 7" LCD Monitor Canon XL1 XL1s XL-1s XL-1 XL2 XL-2 XLH1 - eBay (item 120314860228 end time Jan-05-09 03:08:17 PST) (http://tinyurl.com/7jqjeb)

I'm looking for a larger monitor for my XL2 to do focusing only, (i.e., not for color corrections). Any help & pointers appreciated.

-- peer

Peer, I noticed this in the specs:

Resolution: 1400x234 pixels / 480x240 lines

Not sure what to make of that! I can only guess that it's a sub-SD panel.

Also curious to see where the battery is mounted, and how. Looks like you need to buy your own cells.

I do like their mounting solution though....

MP

The LCD$Video set up has a line of kits at their webpage. I mentioned it in post 88, and have since bought it. It is SD, so you will always have a level of uncertainty to your critical focus if you rely on it.

Also, regarding the FX1, it has an SD AV out mini plug, for SD out, as well a composite out BNC port.

Peer, I noticed this in the specs:
Resolution: 1400x234 pixels / 480x240 lines
Not sure what to make of that! I can only guess that it's a sub-SD panel.

Yea, also I thought that seemed a bit odd. So again, anyone out there who can advice me on this unit? 7" LCD Monitor Canon XL1 XL1s XL-1s XL-1 XL2 XL-2 XLH1 - eBay (item 120314860228 end time Jan-05-09 03:08:17 PST) (http://tinyurl.com/7jqjeb)

-- peer

Earlier in this thread someone mentioned the monitors by Manhattan LCD (http://tinyurl.com/63eac2)

Since those Manhattan guys appear a bit incommunicado along with their incomplete technical spec (doesn't say if it can be rigged to run off bricks, etc.), I wonder if anyone knows about this monitor first hand and if it's perhaps possible to use as an on-board monitor for my XL2.

-- peer

1400x234 means a 466x234 pixel display. For some random reason with these small monitors specs sometimes tally up each of the R,G, and B subpixels (or whatever they are called) that make up the "normal" pixels we are used to.

So yes, it's sub-SD resolution.

I go the 10.9 HD Professional Monitor from Manhattan, and the picture is pretty good.
I use it on my FX1E with the component cable.
My only problem is that my FX1E seems to output bad signal, so the picture is visible a quarter of second on the screen and next goes blank.
I tested the screen with many other component HD sources, including PAL and NTSC, and the problem is definitely in my FX1. So i use a cheap component to HDMI converter and use the hdmi input on the screen , That works perfect.
the screen is very light (all made from plastic) , so even it is big, you can mount it everywhere. the power supply is 12V, so you can manage to use some kind of battery easily found on the web.
I would not glue the battery on the screen since it would make it very heavy.
for the price i think you cannot find better.

Hi everyone!
This is my solution for attaching Sony's DVDPlayer to XL2.
Focusing is easier, zebra doesn't work, to check it you have to use viewfinder.
This set-up makes camcorder really back heavy compared to naked cam witch is much better than supporting front heavy brick lifting massive lens with the hand all the time.

Elegant! That eliminates most of the instabilities from a mounting bracket. If you have any closeup pix of your mounting, I'm sure we'd really like to see them.

HD it isn't, but I just bought a Nikkai A06HU 7 inch digital TV from Maplin to use as a monitor for framing. Oddly enough it doesn't appear on the Maplin website but you can see it here Portable TVs - The Circuits Shop - Electronics in Meccano (http://www.eleinmec.com/shop_category.asp?2296-portable-tvs) (The link to the main Maplin site doesn't work).

This unit works well as an analogue and digital tv (which is how I am justifying buying it!) and is OK for a framing monitor, being light at 0.81 Kg with internal rechargeable battery pack and a reasonable resolution for such a cheapo at 720 x 576. It takes PAL and NTSC on the AV input and comes with 12V car and 230V mains power/charger adaptors and internal rechargeable battery pack which runs for 2 -3 hours as far as I can tell.

As I say hardly the best monitor out there, but a sub-£90 solution for a 7 inch extra monitor with different power options.
I'm still working on how to mount it for various applications.

What are you using to mount the player?