Matthew Galvin
May 8th, 2008, 11:59 PM
Ive had a frustrating week trying to complete a project that I began on a Mac, but needed to print back to tape for archive and delivery to the client, as well as use to make WMV files for the client.
I thought this article would shed some light on some the difficulties of working with native HDV files on the Mac.
http://www.eventdv.net/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=41188
It seems the only solution for print to tape from FCP is to step up to DVCProHD and output via HDSDI to a $5000 deck . . . in other words spend another $10K and spend a lot of time rendering to get the HDV stuff up to HDSDI spec.
Also, I would need a new Mac, since my CoreDuo MacMini wont support the HD-SDI card anyway so better make that $16K and a lot of render time.
Also, noticed that without AIC selected in FCP, I still get AIC-styley artifacts that are missing from the PC file form the same media. Some hints about why in the article. (and why the gamma is different)
Some things I tried:
Copy .MOV file to PC no playback available. The QuickTime HDV container is entirely proprietary to the Mac platform.
Print to tape from FCP 5.04 failed.
Print to tape from FCP Studio 2 failed horrible tons of dropped frames and awful skipping jumping around.
Render complete timeline as a HDV .MOV file and print to tape from Studio 2 failed.
Upconvert to DVCProHD and move to PC failed. Apparently the DVCProHD .MOV container is similarly proprietary to the original HDV MOV see the article.
Use iMovie 07 to print to tape this made a 0.9 aspect DV file and did print it to tape. It looked awful.
Next up on the block for testing print to tape:
Final Cut Express uses AIC, but at this point I will take the quality hit
iMovieHD 08 uses AIC, but at this point I will take the quality hit
Install Vegas in Parallels and try something??
Use MPEGStreamClip to dump out something else, and hope it resembles a M2T file.
Find Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 for Mac and see what it can do
Use the AspectHD plugins somehow (I really like what these do on the PC, and they have some Mac software)
Also tried (for WMV only)
Use Flip4Mac Pro terrible quality
Use Compressor and then move DV files to the PC aspect 0.9 again and terrible output quality color banding and artifacts galore.
Anyway, hope this helps you guys out and you dont have additional workflow issues related to this.
Please don't hassle me about disk speed performance . . . c'mon am I a noob?
It's HDV guys, how many Mbps is that? 25!! Yes, I was using the internal drive.
I thought this article would shed some light on some the difficulties of working with native HDV files on the Mac.
http://www.eventdv.net/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=41188
It seems the only solution for print to tape from FCP is to step up to DVCProHD and output via HDSDI to a $5000 deck . . . in other words spend another $10K and spend a lot of time rendering to get the HDV stuff up to HDSDI spec.
Also, I would need a new Mac, since my CoreDuo MacMini wont support the HD-SDI card anyway so better make that $16K and a lot of render time.
Also, noticed that without AIC selected in FCP, I still get AIC-styley artifacts that are missing from the PC file form the same media. Some hints about why in the article. (and why the gamma is different)
Some things I tried:
Copy .MOV file to PC no playback available. The QuickTime HDV container is entirely proprietary to the Mac platform.
Print to tape from FCP 5.04 failed.
Print to tape from FCP Studio 2 failed horrible tons of dropped frames and awful skipping jumping around.
Render complete timeline as a HDV .MOV file and print to tape from Studio 2 failed.
Upconvert to DVCProHD and move to PC failed. Apparently the DVCProHD .MOV container is similarly proprietary to the original HDV MOV see the article.
Use iMovie 07 to print to tape this made a 0.9 aspect DV file and did print it to tape. It looked awful.
Next up on the block for testing print to tape:
Final Cut Express uses AIC, but at this point I will take the quality hit
iMovieHD 08 uses AIC, but at this point I will take the quality hit
Install Vegas in Parallels and try something??
Use MPEGStreamClip to dump out something else, and hope it resembles a M2T file.
Find Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 for Mac and see what it can do
Use the AspectHD plugins somehow (I really like what these do on the PC, and they have some Mac software)
Also tried (for WMV only)
Use Flip4Mac Pro terrible quality
Use Compressor and then move DV files to the PC aspect 0.9 again and terrible output quality color banding and artifacts galore.
Anyway, hope this helps you guys out and you dont have additional workflow issues related to this.
Please don't hassle me about disk speed performance . . . c'mon am I a noob?
It's HDV guys, how many Mbps is that? 25!! Yes, I was using the internal drive.