View Full Version : Final Cut Pro 6.0.3 SEARCHING MEDIA problem with JVC PRO HD 110U


Carlos Ruz
May 6th, 2008, 09:17 AM
The problem, few days ago I capture from tape 720P24 without a problems, I conect my JVC PR HD 110U firewire to my macbook pro intel or my G5 PPC without any probelm, TC in TC out, log clip, batch capture, all well, but last monday I update my FCP from 6.0.2 to 6.0.3 and now NO CAPTURE FROM JVC PRO HD, when I try to capture , the capture window say: SEARCHING FOR MEDIA, no capture video. This is a nigthmare, my FCP projects now in version 6.0.3 and no open in 6.0.2, I need capture aditional material from tape 720P24, my only solution is export EDL to open in 6.0.2 and capture the aditional material for my finish offline. With version 6.0.2 there is no problem with the capture process from deck JVC o Camera JVC. Is the first big problem .

Tim Dashwood
May 6th, 2008, 09:20 AM
Is the camera in VTR mode? I've been using 6.0.3 since the day the update was issued and haven't noticed any problems with log and capture (besides the HDV audio playing through the mac speakers.)

Carlos Ruz
May 6th, 2008, 09:46 AM
The JVC PRO HD 110U is in VTR MODE, I replace Firewire , capture in two different computers , MacBook Pro intel FCP 6.0.3 , Mac G5 PPC 6.0.3 , and in two cases the capture window say : SEARCHING FOR MEDIA, in apple discussion forum there are other people whit this problem, notice that this problem starting after the update from 6.0.2 to 6.0.3. apple link http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1484224&tstart=90.

apologize for my bad english. Thanks .

Tim Dashwood
May 6th, 2008, 09:48 AM
Wow. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I'm using a BR-HD50 with 1.08 firmware without issues, but my tapes were originated on a HD250. I'll test this on a HD100 and get back to you.

Carlos Ruz
May 6th, 2008, 10:47 AM
I've only tested with material 720P24, i don't what happened in 30P o r 60i, or other models of JVC, the curiosity is that QUICKTIME PRO capture 720P24 whit firewire, recognize Time code and capture whitout problem, the same thing in iMOVIE but in IMOvie only support for 720P30fps, When I loging clip in FCP , the camera is remote for FCP very well, Fast F, STill,, Play , reverse etc, but when I press CAPTURE, the windows capture appears, I see the image and hear audio, the camera cue for IN POINT, pre roll, etc. and then appears SEARCHING FOR MEDIA, and still in this state for all time , the image still run, audio run, but no capture. The setup is 720P24 HDV. Last time who I capture material my version of FCP was 6.0.2 without problems, about 12 hours of 720P24 from tape, but after the update 6.0.3 starting this issue, the only thing who change in my configuration is the FCP 6.0.3 update.

Scott Erlinder
May 6th, 2008, 04:39 PM
We're having the same problem here and tried everything I could think of. We resorted to trying to use iMovie to digitize. I sure hope JVC knows about this. We own 15 cameras and 10 decks...I sometimes hate HDV.

Tim Dashwood
May 6th, 2008, 05:46 PM
I sure hope JVC knows about this.
I hope APPLE knows about this. Apparently the problem is also affecting Canon's 24F.

Shaun Roemich
May 6th, 2008, 06:39 PM
Is this capture issue under FCP 6.0.3 for 24P only or does the update kill all HD110/200/250 capture?

Carlos Ruz
May 6th, 2008, 08:28 PM
Uffff, I need vacation, well, at this moment we are Downgrade from FInal Cut Pro 6.0.3 to 6.0, in FCP 6.0.2, the same problem, SEARCHING FOR MEDIA, but capture, o yeah , capture, but with any problems of broken frames, I try to explained, is like FCP "EATING" frames, and SEARCHING FOR MEDIA is present during capture. , then, at the moment of play the clip , the clip is cut and are missing seconds, is not a continue capture. I think who the solution is reinstall not only FCP also reinstall System 10.5.2, reinstall Quicktime to early version before to FCP 6.0.3 update and try to capture again, I´m no tested 720P30 or 60i, my problem now is capture 720P24 MATERIAL for ending my offline editing. Maybe tomorrow tested in other format. Well, I think who this Issue is the BIG ISSUE OF THE YEAR, Looks like a Windows System, is a nigthmare, I think that the problem is the HDV CODEC who is updated in the FCP 6.0.3 , when I tray to reinstall the early version , the system say: A NEWER VERSION IS INSTALLED and the old install , obviously , don´t install anything. Another question , where is FCP update 6.0.1??????, there is not in the apple support. Well, this UPDATE ODYSSEY , is the demonstration for the most simply lesson in the digital world, ALWAYS BUCK UP THE UPDATERS, and, NOT INSTALL UPDATE WITH OUT CHECKING THAT THE UPDATE IS 100% SECURE . Tomorrow a new report. Good Night . Chao.

Carlos Ruz
May 6th, 2008, 11:26 PM
Hi, is 1:15 AM, we going for beer and cheese , and this is the final report, finally reinstall Final cut Studio 2, FCP 6.0, and, oh my god!! I can capture from JVC PRO HD 110U , 720P24, all my team are very and extremely and violent happy, finally we can finish the offline editing for our client to Saturday , but we lost a lot of time in the process , We capture the additional material in a batch capture, at this moment one of our Macs are capture the material from tape, and the SEARCHING FOR MEDIA is only a bad dream. For a while. WE NO UPDATE ANYTHING, I´m working whit the final cut studio 2.

I HOPE APPLE AND JVC working together for resolved the SEARCHING FOR MEDIA, we work with apple machines and software from 2000 and is the first time we have a problem like this. Saludos Totales.

Carlos Ruz
May 7th, 2008, 03:53 PM
Well, finally we downgrade all system to FCP 6.0, my installer disc of Final CUt Studio are 6.0 , and the way to transfer Projects from FCP 6.0.3 to 6.0 is XML. Export XML from FCP 6.0.3 and then import XML in FCP 6.0, and capture aditional material from tape PROHD 720P24. Good Nigth.

We´re still for the APPLE/JVC/CANON/PANASONIC/SONY Solution. I still for ONE WORLD , ONE CODEC, please.

Jim Lucas
May 8th, 2008, 02:38 PM
Is this only with 24P? I did a capture two days ago at 30p and had no problems. Well no problems after a reboot and drive swap to stop the dropped frames and unnecessary clip breaks. But after that it worked fine.

Carlos Ruz
May 8th, 2008, 07:12 PM
I don´t test the problem with 30P o 60i JVC PRO HD, the format in my project is in 24FPS ´cause I mixed footage from XL2 24PA and JVC PRO HD 24, but friend of us is working with 24f Canon and He experimented the same problem but in a little clips. At this moment 2 Macs was downgrade to FCP 6.0 and working well.

Be in contact.

Carlos Ruz
May 13th, 2008, 01:22 PM
Hi, finally I have decide to downgrade all , the Final Cut Pro from 6.0.3 to 6.0.2, Quicktime from 7.4.1 to 7.3.1, and now I can capture from 720P@24 tapes. I suppose that the problem is the new quicktime apple HDV codec, when I downgrade from FCP 6.0.3 to 6.0.2 the SEARCHING FOR MEDIA ISSUE continues only when I downgrade Quicktime from 7.4.1 to 7.3.1 the issue was a minor presence during capture process . Obviously , I formated the Mac from Installation disc. I´m waiting for the ONE WORLD ONE CODEC.

Marc Colemont
May 13th, 2008, 02:18 PM
That's why I use the Cineform Codec, It cross-reads in both MAC and XP environments

Shaun Roemich
May 14th, 2008, 09:54 AM
Well for what it's worth, here's my 2 cents based on my brand new (yesterday) 200UB and FCP 6.0.3

From tape via FireWire:
24p captures no problem.

60p breaks clips up every time the camera is started and stopped (recording - not turned off or heads spinning down), resulting in a loss of approximately 3 - 5 seconds of footage at the beginning of the clip after the "stop point". I would have expected the NLE to go back and find the "break", cue up pre roll and begin capturing again but it doesn't. Transport keeps rolling and FCP picks up capturing about 3 - 5 seconds later. I guess waiting for the "speed" call while shooting is going to become more important than ever.

I should note I'm using the Easy set-ups in FCP and capturing to HDV (not ProRes at this point) on a white iMac (2.16GHz Core Duo) with 2GB to external LaCie FW400 drives.

Sean Adair
May 29th, 2008, 05:24 AM
Shaun,
Breaking the clips at each camera take with some loss is "normal". What you can do is go into FCP user prefs and set pre-roll & post roll to 1 sec. This makes that gap between takes minimal. Completely covers the issue for me, but some people might still need to adjust their shooting style with certain material... remember, tape is cheap!

Sean Adair
May 29th, 2008, 07:59 AM
I was about to update FCP, so this capture bug is mission critical. I'm actually near 90% on DR-HD100, shoot with 200, read tapes with BR-HD50 - BUT still need to read 100/110 tapes on a regular basis - just last week for instance.
Does using the BR-HD50 for capture circumvent the issue? Is it affected by the camera/firmware used?
Reverting to previous versions of OS/FCP/QT is a major pain. I remember that somewhere there used to be listings of the "blessed" combinations of the above that were free of bugs.
The iMovie capture trick is a good one though...

Rolando Rivera
May 29th, 2008, 03:23 PM
Hi everyone! I was talking about this problem since fcp 5 and now i see the same problem: JVC HDV.
I put my camera in the trash and i buy a 200 Panasonic, after cry of course!


Hi, finally I have decide to downgrade all , the Final Cut Pro from 6.0.3 to 6.0.2, Quicktime from 7.4.1 to 7.3.1, and now I can capture from 720P@24 tapes. I suppose that the problem is the new quicktime apple HDV codec, when I downgrade from FCP 6.0.3 to 6.0.2 the SEARCHING FOR MEDIA ISSUE continues only when I downgrade Quicktime from 7.4.1 to 7.3.1 the issue was a minor presence during capture process . Obviously , I formated the Mac from Installation disc. I´m waiting for the ONE WORLD ONE CODEC.

Sean Adair
May 30th, 2008, 05:21 AM
Hey Rolando,
Careful where you wander ;^)
I'm capturing and editing on a daily basis without issues, but version bugs can affect anywhere. Anyone is advised to check around a bit, or have a plan for going back a version with their editing system before upgrading.
Capturing DV used to break on a regular basis back in the early days. Mind you, there is room for improvement in FCP's HDV capture, I agree!

Sorry to hear you had to downgrade cameras. The 200 panasonic is quite troublesome capturing HD from tape too.....

It's certainly easy enough on the JVC's to capture 6 hours direct to hard drive (dr-hd100) and start editing immediately in Quicktime.
Those P2's have gotten cheaper, but it's a slower, much more expensive workflow.

Rolando Rivera
July 14th, 2008, 10:01 AM
Hi everyone! i was remove from my mac some video files, but now i need it again, is this posible? somebody knows an aplication to get it back? i will aprecciate! thanks a lot!

Rolando Rivera!

Carlos Ruz
July 14th, 2008, 01:54 PM
Hi Rolando, in the case of trash the data I used DATA RESCUE II with a 90% recovery files, that work well, in my case I recover 4 hours of footage that I put in the trash for error.

Supongo que lees español , no se porque respondo en ingles debe ser la costumbre, Yo uso el data rescue II y es muy bueno para recuperar archivos grandes, yo rscate archivos de 10 GB sin problemas , claro que es recomendable tener un disco adicional para realizar el rescate, es decir, si el archivo fue eliminado del disco X, habria que tener otro disco para eralizar el rescate, no usar el mismo disco de donde se borro. SAludos, mi padre se llama Rolando Ruz Rivera, como dato curioso.

Rolando Rivera
July 31st, 2008, 07:53 PM
Hola Carlos gracias por tu respuesta, no habia visto tu respuesta, fijate que ya use ese programa incluso otros pero no me funcionaron solo me daban archivos de 2 o 3 megas. No se que habrá pasado pero lo intenté con una mac intel y una tradicional y el resultado fué el mismo, a estas alturas realmente ya estoy enfrentando las consecuencias de ese error, de todas formas muchisimas gracias por tu respuesta y espero mantengamos el contacto.

Gracias y Saludos a Don Rolando Ruz Rivera!!


Hi Rolando, in the case of trash the data I used DATA RESCUE II with a 90% recovery files, that work well, in my case I recover 4 hours of footage that I put in the trash for error.

Supongo que lees español , no se porque respondo en ingles debe ser la costumbre, Yo uso el data rescue II y es muy bueno para recuperar archivos grandes, yo rscate archivos de 10 GB sin problemas , claro que es recomendable tener un disco adicional para realizar el rescate, es decir, si el archivo fue eliminado del disco X, habria que tener otro disco para eralizar el rescate, no usar el mismo disco de donde se borro. SAludos, mi padre se llama Rolando Ruz Rivera, como dato curioso.