http://pro.jvc.com/pro/pr/2008/nab/mrhd200.html

New Solid State Recorder with both Hard Drive and SD card.

woohooOO!
About time other manuf jumped into this market.

yeah, it doesnt work with a GY-HD100 I wonder why not?

It says all JVC ProHD cameras...

Where did you read that it doesn't support HD100?

where did you hear that?
both cams have the same output, so, I assume component out is component out

Quoted from Press Release:

"LAS VEGAS, NV (April 14, 2008) -- At NAB, JVC previews the next generation of file base recording that combines affordable solid state memory and long length hard disk recording. The MR-HD200U is a new camera-mounted media recorder that attaches directly to any of JVC's award winning ProHD 200 Series camcorders."

Only works on the 200 series.

I wonder what this will do to the firestore line? Since I cant use it maybe I can get a cheap Firestore 4. Or maybe it WILL work but just not with all the bells and whitsltes.

Quoted from Press Release:

"LAS VEGAS, NV (April 14, 2008) -- At NAB, JVC previews the next generation of file base recording that combines affordable solid state memory and long length hard disk recording. The MR-HD200U is a new camera-mounted media recorder that attaches directly to any of JVC's award winning ProHD 200 Series camcorders."

Only works on the 200 series.

I bet you dollars to donuts that it will work with any camera with IEEE 1394 and that records in m2t. Firewire is firewire. Nothing proprietary about it.

I hope you're right David. They do say it will "attach" to the 200 series and NOT that it will only work with the 200 series.

If someone can go by the booth, could you please verify this for us still stuck at work/home. Many thanks if you can.

Hopefully this thing can be powered by the 200's battery system. I was interested in firestore for a while but the fact that you need to have another set of batteries (and a dangling firewire cable) turned me off.

Looking forward to some pics...

That could be why it said 200 is the 110 doesnt come with Anton/Bauer so maybe if you have a 110 with Anton/bauer it will work. BTW How much??

photos of unit seem to show that it attaches to the A/B mount on the 200... This is not cool, because all of us hd110 users dont have that mount unless you paid for one or got the free kit... problem is I have the IDX :(

Now i don't see any wires attached, it might have an interface directly with the mount on the 200 and only the 200 making this another way for JVC to push you to buy the 200's ugh.

When is someone going to come out with a unit that has Y/Pb/Pr connection that captures 10bit 4:2:2 uncompressed right out of the cameras components... and can run off a battery and not be over 2k?? Now thats something that could change life for me.

well anyway theres the photos of it below....

Or it could be a CODEC issue, Where the 200 is capable of outputing AVCintra where the 110 will only do HDV?

It would be pretty crappy of JVC not to make this backwards compatable considering all the firewire issues us 100/110 owners have had and that theres not that big a difference between the 110 and the 200.

The unit really makes the camera look back-heavy.

It might not be too back heavy for shoulder mounted work. I have had to put a heavy battery on the back to get the right balance - I suppose though it already has a heavy battery and the unit.

I must say that this plethora of different models and different features is getting somewhat confusing. I think I will stick with my trusty jvc hd111 and tape based recording until something truly revolutionary (with a revolutionary price) comes along in a a couple of years.

Rob

It wont be too back heavy for me I have a wide angle converter on the lense that weighs about 1.5 lbs.. Id like to see what happens to the JVC deck now.

I don't know about how everyone else feels, but i sure wish they would redesign the darn thing already, this camera is getting pretty ugly and pretty long. making it a more compact full size camera would be a lot better than continually making it longer...

Think of this... The JVC200 with their solidstate recorder attached, long life A/B battery, and on the front a cine lens adapter with lens and matte box....
THATS RIDICULOUSLY LONG!!

Start adding stuff to the top of the camera not the back of it JVC, its getting just weird.

The proHD camera is looking more like a long weapon instead of a very good looking camera (like it used to be).

I can only get new cameras every 5 years or more, I want to make the most of what ive got I dont care how it looks. I'll care in 4 years when im in the market for a new one. On that note I think it was stupid for JVC to release a new camera without this "box" being built in thats clearly the way things are going.

My heart jumped when I saw this post, and then sank when I realised that it states compatiblity with the 200 series only.

I guess the HD100 users will have to go without.

Red Scarlet... interesting

Drew

still not convinced that it won't work on the 100 series.

The proHD camera is looking more like a long weapon instead of a very good looking camera (like it used to be).

Agreed, but it still looks pretty cool in a long-lean-aggressive-shark kind of way...although I can't count the number of times I've backed into a wall with the camera on my shoulder.

However, this new arrangement for some reason looks much weirder and bulkier than hanging a DR-HD100 in back of the battery, mounted on the secure yet wobbly ABFSKIT2.

But even with the extra front weight of my 17x lens, my rig was totally back-heavy with the DR-HD100 mounted that way, and I ended up moving it to the top, using that newer A/B Firestore mount. But now the rig rolls to the right when it's on your shoulder, unless I mount a light to the hotshoe on a Noga arm and swing the light to the left in order to counterbalance the DR-HD100.

There's apparently just no good place to hang a data recorder on this camera (unless you're strictly on a tripod, in which case any of the above options work fine).

I think its great to have a little more weight in the back (when using the 13x or 18x or 35mm adapter set-up). With the 13x on my hd200 the balance center is at the tripod mount, I have to add a large battery or tandem to extend the balance back to the shoulder mount.

Did I miss the price on this? It would be great to record to sd cards because they are getting very close to being as cheap as tape.

When is someone going to come out with a unit that has Y/Pb/Pr connection that captures 10bit 4:2:2 uncompressed right out of the cameras components... and can run off a battery and not be over 2k?? Now thats something that could change life for me.....


Here here! Somebody will make it soon. Probably Focus Enhancements will come up with it first, though this is a great first step.. though I as well have a IDX battery system. So unless they make a different mount for IDX I am out of the loop as well. But I have a HD-100 DTE Pro now, so I'm not really missing anything.

I'm sure the mount and battery type won't be an issues - after all, many of the 200's like mine were sold with IDX batteries. To do 1080i, 200 series cameras will need the upgrade also announced recently.
Justin: the DR-HD100 or firestores run well off the d-tap (or powertap) on either IDX or Anton Bauer systems. The cables are $30, or come included with the mounts. I hate the rig that puts the firestore bouncing around way behind the battery, and opted to make a rig myself out of aluminum sheeting that puts it above the camera - somewhat like the newer AB system, but centrally balanced. Also hyave a tab to mount the lectro wireless receiver.

I suspect this unit will run off external power as well. It will probably be light enough to velcro onto a 3rd party bracket in a number of places.
I haven't had my DR-HD100 for very long. This sounds even more attractive to me. I'm very curious about the price point. Wonder if it's made by focus enhancements (they upgraded firestores now too with wireless logging FWIW)

still not convinced that it won't work on the 100 series.

It apparently will work on the 100 and 200 series, the mount will just have to be mounted differently. Maybe it will just mount on the same type of plate you would use for a DRHD100? It just needs to receive power somehow.

I just got back from the JVC press luncheon and the powerpoint said that it will work with "all" of the prohd cameras. Since it records m2t as well as quicktime it would likely also work on other manufacturer's "HDV" cameras.

Keep in mind that this is just a prototype being shown at the booth, so some design elements could change or be modified by the time the thing is released.

TIm, I know ive never told you this before but I love you man!

Randy

Well is power is a problem and you use IDX you could get a IDX to anton bauer adapter for like $150 then get a anton/bauer back for your 110. It would be like $300 total but considering this box is probably like $1500 (just a guess) it wouldnt be out of the question to spend the extra $$$ if you want it bad enough.

BTW about the size, if you look at the picture its a 250 which has the extra modual that the 110 doesnt have so it wont be as long as it is in the picture for us 100/110 owners. Well maybe mine will because I use the Azden wireless that mounts via Anton/bauer already.

Now i don't see any wires attached, it might have an interface directly with the mount on the 200 and only the 200 making this another way for JVC to push you to buy the 200's ugh.

Just returned from NAB. It uses a firewire cable connection, per JVC reps at the show. And yes, it uses the Anton mount. Nicely integrated unit though.

it would be nice if the firewire port ended up on the same side as the camera's port. then a FW cable with 90 degree connectors on both ends to keep it aerodynamic :>)

It would also be nice if the Firewire didnt carry power so you wouldnt blow ports.

This may help with all the drop out on long captures too, has any got a price on the unit yet,

is it PAL & NTSC or Both. I will need a PAL one down in Aus.

If I'm reading the news release right, this unit has capacity of 90 Min in 720P mode. Maybe this initial release is being geared towards the TV stations shooting news ( a second station is my market just started using HD250's)

Any idea on what sort of price we'll be looking at?

JVC told me the price would be "below $3,000."

The unit really makes the camera look back-heavy.

You should have seen my old Panny 200 CLE with 19x lens, connecting adapter and SVHS deck attached. it had a wingspan of almost 31 inches.

back in my my younger and dumber days....

JVC told me the price would be "below $3,000."

Wow! hopfully well below $3000. at that price it almost makes sense to buy a new camera.

You should have seen my old Panny 200 CLE with 19x lens, connecting adapter and SVHS deck attached. it had a wingspan of almost 31 inches. back in my my younger and dumber days....Off topic: Hooray, another one who has suffered under a 200CLE. That was my first "real" camera. Mine was tethered to a BVU-110 and just walking around was a workout!

Off topic: Hooray, another one who has suffered under a 200CLE. That was my first "real" camera. Mine was tethered to a BVU-110 and just walking around was a workout!

That was my second "real" camera after the JVC BY110. After the 200 was knocked down the longest flight of stairs at Penn Station here in New York (in it's case), it developed an unfixable registration problem. I moved to a 450CLE (that was a very good camera) and then to the Sony VX1000. The HD100 marks my return to owning a shoulder mount and I all the happier for it. Considering that the old cameras could be way heavier then the HD100 or the HD200, yet be better balanced and easier to use for a whole day then any of the "brick" style DV or HDV cameras, I don't look at the addition of this new drive as much of an encumbrance. The price however.....

can any one tell me when they will be out, and it there a pal one ?

Does anyone know if this is out yet?

Wow! hopfully well below $3000. at that price it almost makes sense to buy a new camera.


Price will be around €1115 here in europe.

You need the adapter though, which'll set you back €345

Total €1460, the same ball park as the HDD. You can't quite buy a new camcorder for that price.

March 2009...

Hmm. Are their any good options available now that integrate well with the camera? I'm somewhat concerned about having a harddrive running as they seem to break a lot. Any advice?

The HDD system is rather robust. It's encased to make it a bit more shock proof. Obviously, it isn't as rugged as solid stated, but I've never experienced any problems - and I'm not known for handling my gear that carefully. Just to give you an idea: we rent out the DR-HD100 quite a lot and it hasn't broken up once (and renters are usually known for not respecting fragility of gear).

Great. What about the firewire connection, I always hear horror stories of it burning out on a JVC. Does this pose a problem like that and does it get in the way?

That is one of the things I like about the look of the new solid state recorder coming this spring, it seems to actually connect without a wire. I might have that wrong though.

The SxS recorder still connects by FireWire. The great thing about the HDD and the SxS is that you won't connect your camcorder to your PC anymore (just your card or your HDD), therefor eliminating the possibility to blow your FW-port... Another argument for HDD or SxS

Oh! Can the recorder not blow the firewire port on the JVC? If not, that alone is another gigantic benefit! Huh! I'm sold!!