Being new to both video and the A1, and after much searching of the internet attempting to find budget (for which read free) video clips which demonstrated such things as how to adjust White Balance, shooting for editing, shooting for content, the different standard shots, audio for the A1, and all the other stuff which is necessary to make a decent short, it occurred to me that this community is the perfect place to actually deliver something like that.

Perhaps a series of short (2-3 minute) clips, each on a specific subject and each one done by a different member of the community. These could then be available to all members.

Some clips would be specific to the A1, for example setting up audio using xlr connected mikes, focusing, exposure, etc. These would benefit those of us new to the A1.

Others could be non-camera specific, for example shooting for editing or sample standard shots (extreme close up, close up, etc.). Shooting for content, etc. These would focus on processes and techniques which would assist those of us new to video.

I think that these could be filmed using any camera, but with the camera shown in any shot actually being the A1. The shots wouldnt need to be HD so as to reduce download time.

In order to find out if this project can get off the ground, the two questions that need answering first are:

What subjects do you think would be useful?

Would you be willing to film and produce a clip?

Hoping I will be inundated with suggestions and volunteers.

Colin

If I understand you well then you will organize and coördinate this project?
In that case I'm willing to produce some desired footage as soon as I'm familiar enough with my A1 and know exactly how all the settings on and in the camera work and what they do exactly.

Hi Kees,

Yes, I would be more than happy to organise and coordinate this. Hopefully people will not only suggest a specific subject but volunteer to produce the clip for that subject. But of course I would also welcome people who were willing to produce other peoples suggested subjects. That way we would have a lot more flexibility in what we can produce.

The more volunteers the better. That way each person only has to do one clip on one specific subject.

I would like to emphasise that the intent would be to go beyond the training videos that are currently on the market. We could specifically include those areas of camera work which are more than just "which button do I push?".

Some other examples of clips could be: How (and why) to compose shots, good panning/tilting vs bad panning/tilting, what shots you need to set the scene. The idea being that besides having clips specific to how to use the A1 we would provide those people new to video with a rough outline of the shorts of shots to film and why.

I think that if we can get this off the ground it would be a really useful tool for those of us who are new to this, and of course it would be a way of putting something back into this forum, and who knows where it might lead in the long run.

Regards

Colin

attempting to find budget (for which read free) video clips which demonstrated such things as how to adjust White Balance, shooting for editing, shooting for content, the different standard shots, audio for the A1, and all the other stuff which is necessary to make a decent short...


Be sure to take a look at what's out there already. For starters, Digital Juice has a ton of well-made how-to videos (to help sell their products):
http://www.digitaljuice.com/djtv/default.asp

Guy Cochran's product demonstrations over at the dvestore are also informative:
http://www.dvcreators.net/dvestore/

I think this is a great idea. Yes there is stuff out there but not quite to the point. I've gone past the learning the camera part, but I can remember all too clearly the overwhelming feeling I had while at that stage.

Today, I still have an overwhelming feeling most times, but about different things (Composition, lighting etc.).

Lets make a list of the videos we'd like to see and take it from there.

Shiv.

Okay folks, the first two suggestions are:

Composition

Lighting

Come on guys, with all the members this forum has, surely some of you would like to get involved!

Colin

Collin,

I'd like to participate for sure. One issue I do see is getting together to produce this seeing that we're scattered across the globe.

I wouldn't mind attempting these videos single handedly in fact. I've been through this phase recently and remember quite clearly my own questions/doubts/difficulties.

I'll provide hosting for any helpful clips you guys come up with, so we can keep this under the DV Info Net roof. I'm looking hard at a server-side uploading / encoding app for clip hosting, which we've long needed around here.

Fantastic! Thank you Chris!

I think a whole section could be devoted to "Adventures beyond Auto Program Mode". Granted, one could read the manual. But most people interested in videography are visual learner and may never open the manual!

Case in point. I've been showing a friend a few tips and tricks whenever we get together with our XH A1s. He has a journalistic background and teaches advanced web design and Flash at the local university. However, he hadn't used manual mode until I prompted him to try it.

Looking at the user manual's table of contents, we could build a large library just covering the basics.

I would like to see a description of the parameters in the custom presets and how each one affects the video.

A tutorial on shooting Low Light with the XH-A1 would be great! I'm having trouble with that....

Okay, now we're cooking with gas.

Hosting within the forum (Great, brings more members and encourages sponsors. No downside to that.

Suggested subjects so far:
These first tutorials are specific to the A1 and the camera in shot should be the A1 and the instructions ditto:

White Balance - One volunteer

Focusing - One volunteer

Setting Exposure - One volunteer

Lighting 1 - Using the camera in Low light. One volunteer.

Adventures beyond Auto Program Mode - one segment on each of the camera settings (Tv, Av, M, etc.) - (showing what the camera controls and what the operator can control) One setting per volunteer

Using simple XLR sound - One volunteer

Custom Presets 1- Perhaps split into one segment for each preset, showing what actually happens visually when a preset is changed throughout its range. - One volunteer per preset (or maybe some members would be willing to do more than one.

Custom Presets 2 - Explaining the relationships between the various presets. One volunteer.

The following segments are generic to video and do not necessarily require any camera in shot to be the A1:

Composition - could include basic rules, plus how to add relevant atmosphere using camera positioning, etc. - One volunteer? (perhaps the volunteer who did this could also shoot five second samples of standard shots such as extreme close-up, close-up, etc?

Lighting 2 - High Contrast and how to deal with it, Simple indoor, simple location, simple interviews. - One per volunteer or maybe one for the lot if someone is willing.

So far so good. What else is there that members would like to see?

Suggested guidelines for each tutorial, or, (Don't rush in and do this before it is all organised at this end).

Tutorial to explain the hows and whys, visually demonstrate camera settings where appropriate and show samples of the effect the setting has on the actual images recorded. Filming and editing to be to the best standard possible within the limits of the volunteers equipment and skills. Volunteers are not required or expected to incur costs in the production, other than the obviously valuable time and effort they put into their tutorial, for which we shall be eternally grateful. Standardised credits, which include the volunteer’s details and a reference to this website (see below). Anyone can download the finished product (public domain), (lots of people would want to keep copies on their own computer for quick reference, me included). Not sure if we can specify all should be in HD as some filming will be done using other brands/models instead of the A1, so perhaps we leave that up to the volunteer. Anything I have left out then let me know.

Organisation of the project

Since the idea is that each volunteer would do one segment, then distance is not an issue. Each volunteer would agree on the segment they will do, film and arrange simple editing of it and then pass the completed segment on. If the segment is something which is not A1 specific, then it could be filmed using whatever camera is available, but obviously if it was A1 specific, for example "Adventures beyond Auto Program Mode" then it could be filmed using any camera, but the camera in shot would need to be the A1. I think that the editing would include standardised credits along the line of (and this to be confirmed) - Subject Title, then "A training film made by XXX for the Digital Video Information Network" (where XXX is the name of the volunteer).

What Next
Finally, are there anymore suggested tutorials or other suggestions to get this off the ground? One thought - should this be limited to the A1 or could camera specific tutorials be done for the other cameras listed on dvinfo?????

If you know someone who might be interested in doing a tutorial then please let them know what we are trying to do.

If you are interested in doing a tutorial, then make a reply here and let me know which one interests you.

Come on guys you can make a big difference with this, not to mention a name for yourself!!!

Colin

Fantastic! Thank you Chris!

I would like to see a description of the parameters in the custom presets and how each one affects the video.

This would definitely be very high on my list of things I'd like to learn about.

Afew subjects to consider -

*Instant AF - What is it and how does it work. When NOT to use it. Using focus with adapter Lens'. When to go manual
*Custom functions - how to configure the camera to suit your workflow
*Camera handling Skills - Speaks for itself
*Focus/Zoom Preset - Configuration (menu), setting up (setting and getting the shot) and usage in the real world.
*Still images and external speedlights - How it works and how to get the most from it.
*Iris limitations and working with ND Filters
*Using the A1 with Console
*Using the A1 as a playback deck
*Downconverting and how to get it right in cam
*Handling the camera's colour gamut
*Exposure meter is not always your friend
*Peaking is your friend
*Dealing with noise and MPG compression - How to get the most from your cameras limitations

Do we want to set a time limit on the segments? When creating training video modules for online delivery, 5 minutes seems to be the magic number. Most everything on the list can be articulately demonstrated in this amount of time. A few more advanced topics could be segmented into 2 parts.

A tutorial could be more user friendly if it was a pdf format or power point presentation, linked in the end to your video that would itself demonstrate the collaborative fruit of the lessons. My $0.02

Hi Peter, Doug and Tom, (and everyone else who takes the time to read this),

Peter's suggested subjects sound good, so consider them added to the list.

Doug's suggested 5 minute length sounds about right, except for those subjects that really do need more than that to do them justice.

Tom's idea of linked pdf's or powerpoint may be a good idea but I think that there simply aren't going to be volunteers with both the video making and other skills needed to do this.

I think we could leave the subject list open for one more week and then put another call out for volunteers to get the process underway.

Colin

Composition - could include basic rules, plus how to add relevant atmosphere using camera positioning, etc. - One volunteer? (perhaps the volunteer who did this could also shoot five second samples of standard shots such as extreme close-up, close-up, etc?
Charles Papert has explained the different terms for framing/composition in this thread:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=36934&highlight=framing
Might be helpful for the person doing the composition tutorial.

BINGO! This is a plan I have for a long time to make on my Dutch Website about the XH-A1.

As I was browsing around on the DV(i) forum I discovered this topic and I am offering my help.

Hartelijke groeten,

Gert

Hey Everyone,

Just noticed this thread. Sounds like a great idea!

I'd love to contribute in any way I can. However, like everyone else, I have an extremely busy schedule.

Just from combing through the posts I saw there was a need for a summarized .PDF created for each tutorial. I could easily do that in an organized fashion, screenshots and bulleted lists. It takes no time at all.

Also, the topic is about 'camera technique training clips'. I just recently created an 'Indie' training technique that might prove useful to this series ( even more so if expanded from 2 minutes to 5 minutes). Here it is:
http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=117204

John

Hi Gert and John,

Thank you both for volunteering.

Gert, once the basics are in place I shall call for volunteers to select the subject they want to do, so just keep an eye on this thread until then.

John, it would be great if you could do a standardised pdf showing the basics of what we want for each of the subjects so far listed in this thread. That way the clips would all follow the same approach and would ensure that there was basic guidance for our volunteers. It might be easier if we work this out off thread so as not to clog it up with humdrum detail, so please email me.

Looking forward to working with you.

Colin

Believe it best to work it out online right here -- after all that's what the board is for! Thanks in advance,

Hey, Would love to help with the project if it gets off the ground and do what I can to help it do that. I can help with additional hosting but also encoding and setting up of a flash player with play lists and such. I also have setup my server to allow uploading of files via a simple PHP scripts of up to 100MB. If Mr. Hurd wants to discuss the mods that allow this fun stuff I would be happy to.

Hi Chris,

Thats fine. I just thought a whole string of posts about what to include in the pdf might detract from what we are trying to do, when it comes to other members reading the thread about the actual training clips.

By the way, what's the situation with being able to upload clips to this site?

Colin

For right now just contact me by email (chris at dvinfo dot net) for the FTP upload account info. We're about to expand the site significantly to allow clip hosting; the Flash encoder package I'm looking at is not cheap (for me that is; it'll be a free service to share video here) but it will be HD and it'll be the same tech used by another popular sharing site (not Youtube but much better).

I've been contacted by some other video sharing services about partnering on this and I still need to get those emails out, but this hosting project will be in-house and hosted on DV Info Net's servers and carrying our brand (it has to be as I want to keep everything under one roof and accessible to all our members). It's the next big step for DV Info Net which I've been wanting to implement for quite awhile and it's time to make it happen.

Meanwhile I think the discussions about how to shape these tutorials should remain as open and public as possible. That way it's more of a community effort.