View Full Version : JVC’s br-hd50u alternative HDV Deck


Kim Wang
February 11th, 2008, 04:00 PM
Has any one use this Deck for payback of JVC’s 720/30p footage?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/516841-REG/Sony_GVHD700_GV_HD700_HDV_Video_Walkman.html

Sony GV-HD700 HDV Video Walkman VCR

We need a deck to capture fotage from JVC HD110. Some site list 720p playback and yet some don’t.

We are using Premiere Pro Cs3 with BMD’s intensity Pro. We hope to use the Fire wire to control the deck and capture using HDMI as MJPED compression AVI.

The deck is affordable enough as capture beck. We don’t need it to record, as we plan to give the client final footage in Blue ray.

TIA
Kim W

Randy Johnson
February 12th, 2008, 07:11 AM
Wow! Its justs what ive been looking for but im sure theres a catch. My guess is it wont do 720p 30 (which is o.k. with me) Most of the sony decks I see will do 720p but only through analog. I dont know if you can use Firewire just for control and scene detection if you can where do I sign?!?!

Kim Wang
February 12th, 2008, 08:19 AM
I read somewhere that it play out 1080i (HDV2) & 720p (HDV1) too. Not sure is this is true. The 720p with not payout from fire wire but will do so from component and HDMI.
Anyone has here has one of this deck?

Kim W

Randy Johnson
February 12th, 2008, 08:36 AM
In my ealier post I said I didint think it would do 720p 30 I meant 720p 24. I cant find any info on it anywhere except sonys website but since its a consumer piece theres not much on it. I dont mind doing componmet or HDMI as long as the firewire can send the timecode data.

Tup Wright
February 12th, 2008, 01:58 PM
I found the manual

http://129.33.22.12/release/GVHD700.pdf

Here is the only mention of 720p:
"Your VCR can playback pictures recorded in the HDV 720/p30 format, but cannot output it from the HDV/DV (ilink) interface."

I think it might work for HDMI though...

Randy Johnson
February 13th, 2008, 08:39 PM
I dont know if it helps but I ran a test with a VX-2000 (sony DV) I hooked up the firewire BUT I took the s-video out to the intensity card. It took the video from the s and the control from the firewire so in theory your idea should work. Now who wants to put up the $1,000 to know for sure:)

Randy Johnson
February 13th, 2008, 08:49 PM
although you still dont have "Scene detection" but at least you can set an outpoint if you want to capture unattended.

Jeffrey Butler
February 27th, 2008, 10:15 PM
"It offers the ability to record SD resolution and playback HDV resolution, view content on its built-in 7" TFT 16:9 LCD screen, or output 1080i/720p signals to an HDTV through the HDMI output."

HDMI output could bring your JVC HDV stuff from your 200/250 out the HDMI and into your system via a Blackmagic card perhaps?

Kim Wang
February 29th, 2008, 09:33 AM
Can it up convert 720p from JVC to 1080 via HDMI & component? Maybe use fire wire to control the deck. And capture both 720p 04 1080i via BMD intensity pro.

Has any one invested in this deck yet?

TIA
Kim W

Randy Johnson
February 29th, 2008, 12:05 PM
I think my Sony DSR-30 is going to cost $1,000 or more to fix the Firewire. in that case it makes more sense to buy this deck. Im not doing much HD yet so I just need to DV deck.

Randy Johnson
February 29th, 2008, 01:59 PM
Right now theres a BR-HD50U on ebay for $600 current bid. I wish I had that money now id bid.

Glen Vandermolen
March 1st, 2008, 09:07 AM
Right now theres a BR-HD50U on ebay for $600 current bid. I wish I had that money now id bid.

Could you provide a link? I didn't see it on eBay.

Randy Johnson
March 1st, 2008, 12:25 PM
whoa its up to 1,500 now.
http://cgi.ebay.com/JVC-BR-HD50-HDV-DECK_W0QQitemZ230226649547QQihZ013QQcategoryZ21168QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Randy Johnson
March 1st, 2008, 04:35 PM
I think the bad part is that JVC looks like they will get out of the "tape" game with some of the newer cameras so decks are going to be harder and harder to come by.

Scott R. Smith
March 3rd, 2008, 01:02 AM
I've got two of the BR-50U decks. We use HDMI out into a Convergent Design HDConnectMI converter. http://www.convergent-design.com/CD_Products_HDConnectMI.htm

We then come out HD-SDI into a Kona3 card. We normally stay in 720p because it's good to stick to a format, it's JVC's native format, and we like progressive scan better than interlaced, though I imagine we could import it just as easily as 1080i.

The good thing about this setup is that
A) You are no longer editing long GOP HDV, with all it's problems.
B) The Kona card does hardware conversions--so 1080i, 1080p, 720p, 480p, 480i, 486i are all converted on the import.
C) The video can be square-pixel instead of anamorphic.
D) You can import into any codec Final cut has to offer (i.e. Prores422)
E) You can import and edit at 720p, then use the Kona card to hardware convert on export to another format.

The Bad:
A) Kona3 cards are expensive.
B) Kona3 cards are expensive.

Steve Oakley
March 7th, 2008, 12:38 AM
A) You are no longer editing long GOP HDV, with all it's problems.
C) The video can be square-pixel instead of anamorphic.
D) You can import into any codec Final cut has to offer (i.e. Prores422)


please tell me what "all its problems" are ? HDV edits just as well as any other format once you get it in. I've had ZERO problems with editing native HDV once its in, including RT FX.

720 HDV _is_ SQUARE PIXEL to begin with. thats what goes to tape, so I don't get your point. DVCpro is rectangular pixels, but at this point in time, given all apps can deal with rectangular pixels including PS, its a moot point.

you can capture FW HDV directly to ProRes. I've been doing it on a G5 2.5ghz machine.

Kim Wang
March 20th, 2008, 08:50 AM
We took the plunge last week and bought the Sony GV-HD700 HDV Video Walkman VCR. We absolutely love it.
We are using the fire wire to control the deck. And HDMI to capture both 1080i & 720p footage using BMD’s intensity pro card.

It doesn’t play 720 through the fire wire, only 1080i & DV footage. For the price it was fantastic. I will pay more just to have pro version with RS422 control & 720 up convert to 1080i.

Though we hasn’t try it yet but We you believe it record HDV 1080i from its fire wire port only.
Kim W

(Premire Pro CS3 on XP)

Randy Johnson
March 20th, 2008, 08:25 PM
Will it do "Scene detection" through the Firewire?

Daniel Weber
March 22nd, 2008, 10:11 PM
We took the plunge last week and bought the Sony GV-HD700 HDV Video Walkman VCR. We absolutely love it.
We are using the fire wire to control the deck. And HDMI to capture both 1080i & 720p footage using BMD’s intensity pro card.

It doesn’t play 720 through the fire wire, only 1080i & DV footage. For the price it was fantastic. I will pay more just to have pro version with RS422 control & 720 up convert to 1080i.

Though we hasn’t try it yet but We you believe it record HDV 1080i from its fire wire port only.
Kim W

(Premire Pro CS3 on XP)

Does is play HDV 720p24? I know some of the earlier HDV decks would only play 720p30 out the HDMI or component ports.

Daniel Weber

Scott Shama
March 27th, 2008, 07:50 AM
Will it do "Scene detection" through the Firewire?

I would love to know this as well...

Anyone with this unit please let us know...

Thanks,
Scott

Kim Wang
March 27th, 2008, 10:17 AM
We will try both “Scene detection” & 24p playback early next week. All our system is booked all week 24/7.

As soon as we get some down time I’ll try posting the result. So far we loved it.
Kim W