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Kaku Ito
January 5th, 2008, 09:55 AM
Has anyone tested Samsung 245T 24 inch LCD monitor?

It says it has 6m sec response time.

Combining this monitor with Matrox MXO or MOTU V3HD's DVI output, it would be great if the response time is true and if the panel itself performs well in color. It's so cheap!

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=A1319023

Kaku Ito
January 29th, 2008, 10:14 AM
I got this display and tested with MOTU V3HD DVI output.

It seems it is pretty fast, also the parameters are pretty robust to fine adjust.
It even does 1:1 monitoring when you are working with 720p.

I had the Dell side by side with Panasonic LH1700W to match, and over all looks got pretty close, but fineness and richness did not get close. There was obvious difference.

But still, I think this monitor could go good with something like Matrox MXO.

Tim Polster
February 1st, 2008, 05:48 PM
Kaku,

I will be using a Canopus NX Express which has component output to the preview monitor.

These two monitors are on my short list.

Side by side, would you say the Panasonic was $2,000 better than the Dell?

Could one use the Dell and be confident of the color and gamma settings for editing?

Also, have you seen SD material through these monitors?

I will be going from a tube Sony production monitor and wonder if the SD will still look good, better or worse on the LCDs.

Thanks

Kaku Ito
February 1st, 2008, 09:33 PM
Tim,

Maybe if you have a production monitor then you might be able use that as reference and try to adjust the Dell. This display is somewhat more intuitive than Eizo to adjust the colors.

When you compare the motion, the tube is the best, Panasonic LH1700W gets almost identical to regular plasma display, then the Dell looks pretty good for LCD, but still smudges on fast motion or panning.

Color wise, the Dell is very good for the price, nothing less than any of the panels more expensive.

SD on HD LCD monitor does not good always. You start to see the obvious jaggies, but LH1700W does have circuit to smooth out such condition.

If you had the money, get the LH1700W. You won't regret it.

My decision was to buy LH1700W. It's the best HD LCD production monitor I looked at (over older sony Luma, JVC full raster one, one Korean brand and so on). However, I'm looking into the latest inexpensive Sony LCD production monitor which only has component and HDMI inputs.
I will give the report next week after we evaluate it. Since you have only component out, then this sony might be most feasible to you.

Tim Polster
February 1st, 2008, 11:18 PM
Thanks for your reply.

What would you think of a CRT with 750 lines and component input for $1,000?

JVC has a few on the market.

It kind of seems like a middle ground between SD & HD editing & one could calibrate the color properly.

I wonder how much the resolution would suffer in a 1080p project?

To me, color correction and gamma/brightness/contrast are more important to get right than having full resolution.

Any thoughts?

Kaku Ito
February 2nd, 2008, 12:58 AM
I have one of those JVC CRT with 750 lines (small one).
When I look at my HD clips on those, I feel rest of mind.
Progressive clips might look little juddered, but color, contrast and brightness look more accurate than LCD monitors.

Tim Polster
February 2nd, 2008, 08:44 AM
Thanks for your info.

This seems like a tough choice between the CRT and the Dell.

Since I still shoot mainly SD, and am looking to add HD work, the Panasonic at $2,400 just seems a bit pricey.

It comes down to how well the CRT handles 1080p vs how well the Dell handles SD.

Kaku Ito
February 2nd, 2008, 11:35 PM
Thanks for your info.

This seems like a tough choice between the CRT and the Dell.

Since I still shoot mainly SD, and am looking to add HD work, the Panasonic at $2,400 just seems a bit pricey.

It comes down to how well the CRT handles 1080p vs how well the Dell handles SD.

Tim,

What is the plan to connect Dell to component out of your edius?

Tim Polster
February 3rd, 2008, 12:51 PM
Yes,

The Edius NX board only has component output.

Kaku Ito
February 3rd, 2008, 07:55 PM
The Dell display only comes with DVI inputs.

MOTU V3HD or Matrox MXO can output directly to DVI, so I was mentioning this display but in your case, you should go with the new sony or the JVC you were mentioning.

Tim Polster
February 4th, 2008, 01:19 AM
Sorry Kaku,

I was referring to the Dell UltraSharp 2407WFP-HC monitor.

I don't know if you are speaking about a different model.

Kaku Ito
February 4th, 2008, 05:55 AM
it could use the same panel, but see the title of the thread,

Dell/Samsung 245T 24 inch monitor was the one I was talking about.

Dean Andersen
March 22nd, 2008, 02:05 PM
How does SD material look on this monitor using s-video or component?

Dean Andersen
March 25th, 2008, 07:44 PM
Does anyone have one and seen SD material?

Kaku Ito
March 26th, 2008, 10:39 AM
Usually non-video monitor that has HD resolution displaying SD material make it look not crisp. This display can make the material display at 1:1 pixel to avoid that at least.

What I was disappointed about this Dell display, though, the backlight wasn't flat through out the panel. One side looked darker than the other side.

Dean Andersen
March 26th, 2008, 08:20 PM
Thanks. I think I will stick with a crt monitor.

Kaku Ito
March 27th, 2008, 07:53 PM
What I do is to use LCD HD monitor and SD CRT production monitor together.
MOTU V3HD and Matrox MXO can output both HD and SD signals at the same time.