View Full Version : How do I make a transition like Texas Chainsaw Massacre
David Delaney November 5th, 2007, 09:34 PM http://youtube.com/watch?v=bm5iet9oHBk
at about 1:19 or so, they transition between scenes with that eerie photography type shot with high pitch noise.
How can I do that transition with Vegas? It looks like a burned piece of film that blossoms out from the center with a white glow that encompasses the whole screen.
I would like to do it in Vegas instead of going outside the NLE.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Ian Stark November 6th, 2007, 06:42 AM Hi David,
Here's how I would do it - may not be the most effective/easiest method but it's just off the top of my head.
1. No need to use a transition between your two clips. Simple cut will be fine.
2. Use a velocity envelope to abruptly stop the action (i.e. set to 0%). Nothing else needs to be done to your clips now, unless you want to treat them with some sepia, say, to make a more photographic effect. Or maybe black and white? High contrast? All down to your taste!
3. Create a track above and insert a generated media event. I used Noise with main settings of Fractal-Smooth and X and Y frequency at 1.5 for both to give a very minimal noise shape. You could probably do this with just a solid colour to be honest but it was what I started with. A 1.5 second clip is probably long enough but adjust according to how quick you want the effect to be. I kept the colour at the default black and white.
4. Fade the event in over about 20 frames and fade it out over around 5 frames.
5. Using pan/crop, at the beginning of your event create a small, roughly circular mask with the following settings: positive, Feather Type both, Feather % at 50. Again, experiment to taste. A perfect circle doesn't look great - make it more globular.
6. Create a keyframe in the pan/crop timeline (on the mask line, obviously) at the end of the event and grow the circular mask so it goes out of the screen area.
7. Apply the Glow effect to the event. I used the following settings: Glow Percent 0.195, intensity 4.00, suppression 0.03. Actually I keyframed the intentity to go up to around 11.5 by the end of the event. Change the colour of the glow to suit - I used 255/248/219.
8. I didn't do this myself (time!) but to achieve the slightly different coloured leading edge of the effect you could perhaps duplicate the track with the generated event and create a second mask inside the first one and play around with the glow settings/colour etc.
I've attached a simple veg to demonstrate it. Right, back to lunch!
Ian . . .
EDIT: Sorry, I thought we could u/l .veg files. Obviously I wasn't paying attention. Anyway, simple enough to reproduce.
Chris Hurd November 6th, 2007, 10:46 AM Sorry, I thought we could u/l .veg files. Oops, that is my oversight. At any rate I'm pretty sure I can arrange this. What is a typical size in bytes / kilobytes for these files? The extension is .veg, correct?
Fergus Anderson November 6th, 2007, 11:14 AM I too would appreciate a veg file if poss?
Cheers
Ian Stark November 6th, 2007, 11:16 AM Hi Chris,
Speaking for myself, my (typically <10 mins) corporate project files rarely exceed 500kb and that's with a ton of generated text, lower thirds from generated solids etc etc. Yep, .veg.
Did we used to be able to upload veg files? I was sure I'd seen some. Maybe I was mistaken (mishtaken as a newt, perhaps).
Jason Robinson November 6th, 2007, 12:02 PM Hi Chris,
Speaking for myself, my (typically <10 mins) corporate project files rarely exceed 500kb and that's with a ton of generated text, lower thirds from generated solids etc etc. Yep, .veg.
Did we used to be able to upload veg files? I was sure I'd seen some. Maybe I was mistaken (mishtaken as a newt, perhaps).
You might be able to upload the file if you change the extension first then just tell people to change the extension back. I don't know if vBullitin (the software running this forum) checks mimetypes before the upload (the mimetype is where the file actually self identifies its file type independently of the extension).
Chris Hurd November 6th, 2007, 01:05 PM Try it now... somebody post a reply please and click "manage attachments" in the area below the message input text field. You should be able to attach a .veg file which will show in your post as being downloadable. Let's see if this works!
Ian Stark November 6th, 2007, 01:26 PM Hope this file is worth your efforts, Chris!!
David Delaney November 6th, 2007, 02:37 PM The file didn't work for me - what version of Vegas are you using?
Edward Troxel November 6th, 2007, 03:04 PM You should have "removed all unused media" from the project manager first! :-)
Works fine in Vegas 8 - just need to "ignore" the missing media.
Brian Luce November 6th, 2007, 04:55 PM "unsupported format" in Vegas 6d.
Jason Robinson November 6th, 2007, 05:45 PM "unsupported format" in Vegas 6d.
Most likely just a veg created in either 7 or 8. I know of no way to save a project in a "compliant" mode where older version can open it.
Anyone know differently?
David Delaney November 6th, 2007, 08:12 PM Maybe Ian has an older version of vegas he could copy the project to and save it that way?
Edward Troxel November 6th, 2007, 08:55 PM You cannot save a VEG so that it is backward compatible. I suspect this one was saved in Vegas 8 as Vegas 8 did not warn me it was an older file when I opened it. To get one in an older version, it will have to be created in an older version.
Jason Robinson November 7th, 2007, 02:54 AM You cannot save a VEG so that it is backward compatible. I suspect this one was saved in Vegas 8 as Vegas 8 did not warn me it was an older file when I opened it. To get one in an older version, it will have to be created in an older version.
But I suppose Sony eliminates the headaches that Microsoft / OpenOffice people have because of maintaining a year or so worth of backward compatible file formats (though not very many years back).
It would seem like V8 should be able to save a project so V6 could read it as long as the specific parts are left out or blanked out like anything involving hte new keyframer.
Ian Stark November 7th, 2007, 03:13 AM The file didn't work for me - what version of Vegas are you using?
Sorry to all non-8 users, especially David for whom this was created. I should have pointed out that this is a v8 project. There's nothing in it that uses any v8 specific feature but as Edward/Jason say, you can't save in older formats. I removed v7 last weekend believe it or not! (Not that I would have thought to use it anyway).
Shouldn't be too hard to reproduce from the instructions though - and as I said before, it was a quick 'n' dirty suggestion that gets you part way to what you're trying to achieve. I'm sure there's a more elegant way to get where you want to be.
Edward - d'oh! I went to great lengths to tidy up the timeline - never gave the project media a second thought! Sorry. I have saved it below WITHOUT unused media!
EDIT - OK, can't save the same file even with a different filename. I've replaced the original file in the earlier thread .
Ian Stark November 7th, 2007, 03:32 AM So as not to alienate everyone here except v8 users I installed v7 on the laptop and recreated the project!
Here it is, roughly looking the same as the v8 project.
Apologies still offered to pre-v7 users!
David Delaney November 7th, 2007, 03:41 PM Thanks for that Ian, that was nice of you.
Ian Stark November 7th, 2007, 04:04 PM A pleasure. Hope it gives you something to build upon!
Ian Stark November 7th, 2007, 04:13 PM p.s. enjoyed the Distortions episode on band names.
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