View Full Version : GPVA Wedding Film Fest - Bronze Recap


Gary Hanna
October 17th, 2007, 02:17 PM
Ahoy - just entered this GPVA (Philadelphia video association) film fest last night and luckily won a Bronze for this recap

http://www.psynema.com/phillycrew/clipshare/view_video.php?viewkey=1f7873cb83dacb17b0af

Not sure if Glen entered/attended as I wasn't able to attend, but if any other GPVA members were there, how'd things go?

Thanks.

Yang Wen
October 17th, 2007, 03:09 PM
Congrats! I loved the exterior shots.. great colors.. Can you give us some tech specs of hardware used?

Gary Hanna
October 17th, 2007, 03:33 PM
Congrats! I loved the exterior shots.. great colors.. Can you give us some tech specs of hardware used?

Thanks -

Canon A1 (Glidecam) and DVX100 both 24p, Sennheiser wireless mic, and FCP

Travis Cossel
October 17th, 2007, 03:44 PM
Nice vid and congrats on the award!

Two questions: How do you like your Glidecam? Do you have an external LCD attached to it?

Gary Hanna
October 17th, 2007, 04:54 PM
Nice vid and congrats on the award!

Two questions: How do you like your Glidecam? Do you have an external LCD attached to it?

Like it - though the A1 is a bit ergonomically challenged on the handheld 4000 unit and recommend the vest with it. No external LCD.

Travis Cossel
October 17th, 2007, 05:20 PM
I promise I won't go anymore offtopic than this, but since you don't use an external LCD how do frame your shots while you're moving. Do you use the flip-out LCD or is it just experience working for you?

Gary Hanna
October 17th, 2007, 05:24 PM
I promise I won't go anymore offtopic than this, but since you don't use an external LCD how do frame your shots while you're moving. Do you use the flip-out LCD or is it just experience working for you?

Never had a problem using the flip out LCD, never gets out of my field of view and tried an external monitor once - just didn't think it was worth it, expeciall adding unneccesary weight.

WIth the handheld unit, you have to stay behind the glidecam, and pretty much keep the camera pointing perpendicular at a right angle anyway, so it's pretty much in my field of view, unless your doing 360s, but usually doesn't become a problem until after I'm finished with the shot anyway.

Travis Cossel
October 17th, 2007, 05:39 PM
So you balance the rig with the flipout in the position you want? I've heard ppl have trouble using stabalizers with the flipout LCD open.

Gary Hanna
October 17th, 2007, 05:44 PM
So you balance the rig with the flipout in the position you want? I've heard ppl have trouble using stabalizers with the flipout LCD open.

Yep - not that bad really.

Travis Cossel
October 17th, 2007, 06:04 PM
Yep - not that bad really.


Thanks for the info! And again, congrats on the award!

Gary Hanna
October 17th, 2007, 06:17 PM
Thanks for the info! And again, congrats on the award!

Thanks - yep IMO moving a small monitor here and there (which I really don't have to do - it doesn't effect the shift too much) is much easier than balancing a monitor, which, position wise, makes the GC much harder to balance in my eyes - I never like to have something OVERLY in the front or back, which is where most monitors go - and even if you have a rig to put it in the center, there's still the width of the monitor to be concerned with. It's just simpler for me to keep the GC as even as I can with accessories, despite the fact that you can compensate - even if you compensate for an accessory that makes it front or back heavy, you can still sense it while doing 360s.

Travis Cossel
October 17th, 2007, 06:25 PM
Good to know. I've heard people comment that using a flipout makes the balancing harder, but it sounds like you think using a monitor makes it harder. I'll be getting a stabalizer soon and getting this kind of feedback is literally invaluable. Thanks!!

Gary Hanna
October 17th, 2007, 06:48 PM
Good to know. I've heard people comment that using a flipout makes the balancing harder, but it sounds like you think using a monitor makes it harder. I'll be getting a stabalizer soon and getting this kind of feedback is literally invaluable. Thanks!!

Yep, really I think a monitor is overkill - and not to sound rude, but I think people get monitors for show moreso than necessity. And I've never came across a glidecam user that's used the glidecam on a habitual basis that wants a monitor on it - not to stereotype people, but the people that want monitors on their glidecam, the ones that I've come across any, JUST BOUGHT THEM without mastering it yet. I'll add again that I hope no one is offended by that remark, but that's just what I've noticed.

Like I've said before, to really get good with the glidecam, you have to make a habit of moving your body, strafing with it - you want your body behind it at all times, and once you learn to do that, you won't have a problem viewing the LCD.

But will also add it does depend on what camera you use - a camera without an LCD or a bigger 2/3 chip camera that usually doesn't have an LCD, then yeah, get a monitor, but for your typical a1, DVX, z1u, I'd say your cash is better off spent on something else, especially the vest if you haven't gotten one yet LOL.

I actually work with Dave Williams - glidecam user/spokeperson/dealer etc - he never used a monitor. He sells training materials and I believe is taking orders for the new XT model that has two arms.

Travis Cossel
October 17th, 2007, 07:25 PM
Again, REALLY appreciate the advice because when I purchase my stabalizer I won't have the funds to purchase a monitor as well.

Gary Hanna
October 17th, 2007, 07:49 PM
Again, REALLY appreciate the advice because when I purchase my stabalizer I won't have the funds to purchase a monitor as well.

Yep, good point, I'm not that large on cash as well, have to be carefull LOL.

VEST is lightyears ahead of a monitor.

And even then, you can get by without a vest if you have a smaller 1/3 sensor camera. Just make sure you practice and master the handheld first, because the vest is a whole different beast and feels totally different. Frankly, while the vest takes pressure off of your arm and allows for longer glides, the vest lacks the mobility of the handheld unit, as well, you cannot FEEL the weight with the vest, so the handheld unit actually is better for more intricate glides PROVIDED you have the strength left. The vest is good for slow, more straight, and long glides. Vest also lacks mobility going up and down on an incline.

But I do recommend buying the vest, just make sure, to get the handheld unit down pat and not just spend 3 grand on a full rig - IMO that will just restrict the learning process.

But do get a vest purely because it's great as a portable tripod - that's why I like using it - during events, the handheld glidecam, zoomed in all the way, isn't great for static shots, but if you need a really stable and still shot of a speaker or presentation, the vest keeps the camera very static considering it has no legs on the ground.

Travis Cossel
October 17th, 2007, 08:41 PM
Well, I definitely don't have the capital to drop on a full-size-vest-with-arm at the moment, but I was looking at the cheaper vest that doesn't really provide stabilization. I think that would work for those times when I need a break from holding the unit and just need a steady, static shot (like filming a toast or whatever).

Since you don't seem to mind me taking over your thread (lol) I'll ask you another question. How is it going from handheld (no GC) to using the Glidecam in the middle of a wedding day? In other words, is it practical to shoot some shots with the GC and then take the camera off to get some other shots and then put it back on, all in the span of say 30 minutes? Or do you basically need to recalibrate the balance every time to put the camera back on the GC?

Gary Hanna
October 17th, 2007, 09:12 PM
Well, I definitely don't have the capital to drop on a full-size-vest-with-arm at the moment, but I was looking at the cheaper vest that doesn't really provide stabilization. I think that would work for those times when I need a break from holding the unit and just need a steady, static shot (like filming a toast or whatever).

Since you don't seem to mind me taking over your thread (lol) I'll ask you another question. How is it going from handheld (no GC) to using the Glidecam in the middle of a wedding day? In other words, is it practical to shoot some shots with the GC and then take the camera off to get some other shots and then put it back on, all in the span of say 30 minutes? Or do you basically need to recalibrate the balance every time to put the camera back on the GC?

You can rebalance in a few minutes, but during a wedding day, depending on where you're at, 5 minutes could be a major setback, which I've found.

And it takes a while to get to that point, usually a beginner can easily take 2-3 times that.

Best way is to get a matching baseplate of your tripod/monopod, and attach it to the glidecam - not the whole head, but just the baseplate, that way you can detach the camera while keeping the weights in tact.

Travis Cossel
October 17th, 2007, 09:23 PM
So if you keep the same plate attached to the camera (already planned on doing that anyways) do you still have to rebalance the rig?

Gary Hanna
October 17th, 2007, 09:37 PM
So if you keep the same plate attached to the camera (already planned on doing that anyways) do you still have to rebalance the rig?

Nope - so long as none of the weights get moved while you store you glidecam you should be fine - just make sure to tighten them so they stay still.

Only thing is I heard people who use the slide/lock baseplates have a few issues because it slides. Usually people like the hex plates for the GC.

Travis Cossel
October 17th, 2007, 10:59 PM
Care to share what plate you're using?

Gary Hanna
October 18th, 2007, 12:19 AM
Care to share what plate you're using?

Actually never got around to using one - I just keep the glidecam the whole wedding usually. At most, if the church is small enough, I'll put it on a tripod and just have my 2nd cameraman cover me for 5-10 minutes while I reattach it after the recessional line.

Or just rent/bum a vest from someone and wear that throughout.

Never settled on a plate - my tripod has the hex plate, and I've actually had my tripod's plate come loose on me and bust two cameras, so I'm scared to death to put that on a Glidecam...

Also note - the baseplate needs to be drilled on.