IMO I think if this was the case, humans would destroy themselves from greed long before they froze to death. Chaos would be evident almost as soon as news spread that there would be no sunrise... Everyone would fight over the "hot" spots on earth. Resources would be fought over by the armed and dangerous, the rest would perish almost immediately. The infrastructure of any civilized modern society would crumble instantly, who the heck is going to sit at the power stations when death is promised very soon. Knowing the sun isn't coming back is motivation enough to abandon any job and go either try to survive or have a last whooorah.

If we all behaved, I'd still only give the earth a few weeks before it froze into a solid dark iceball...

IMO I think if this was the case, humans would destroy themselves from greed long before they froze to death. Chaos would be evident almost as soon as news spread that there would be no sunrise... Everyone would fight over the "hot" spots on earth. Resources would be fought over by the armed and dangerous, the rest would perish almost immediately. The infrastructure of any civilized modern society would crumble instantly, who the heck is going to sit at the power stations when death is promised very soon. Knowing the sun isn't coming back is motivation enough to abandon any job and go either try to survive or have a last whooorah.

If we all behaved, I'd still only give the earth a few weeks before it froze into a solid dark iceball...I have this covered as well.... :)

This sort of thing will definitely be hinted at in my movie. Making things seem even more bleak...

Mike

Mein President, we could construct huge underground shelters for the leading political and military minds....

Animals could easily be raised and SLAUGHTERED for food.... Mein Feuhrer.

Sorry, Mein President.

-inaccuately quoted from Dr. Strangelove.

Mein President, we could construct huge underground shelters for the leading political and military minds....

Animals could easily be raised and SLAUGHTERED for food.... Mein Feuhrer.

Sorry, Mein President.

-inaccuately quoted from Dr. Strangelove.
One of my all time favourite movies.

My wife doesn't get it...


Cheers,

Mike

I really think the earth would freeze too fast for people to prepare to survive such a thing...but in film, you decide how the physics of the universe operate right? ninjas could battle the cold and win!

How long do you think people could last IF:

a. They lived next to a volcano or geo-thermal vent
AND b. there was a COSTCO nearby ...

hmmm ...

Add in an REI and you might have people surviving quite a long time. Add some irony by having "An Inconvenient Truth" on sale at one of the stores.

There's a lot of science involved for the sun to "stop shining".

According to current science, the sun will eventually expand to swallow the earth then turn into a dwarf star before it "stops shining", so chances are we won't know about it when or if it does.

I read in some discussion of 'Sunshine', the idea was some sort of subatomic particle is causing the sun to 'shut down', slowly growing colder.

I forget what the particle was called (strangelet?), apparently there is some actual science behind the particle. Whether it would cause the sun to stop shining, I'm guessing that was Danny Boyle taking some license.

Of course, all sorts of implausible movies have proven to be very successful. Flesh eating zombies to superheroes, if you get the audience to care about the characters, they will be pretty forgiving of whatever the premise is.

Well, the flesh-eating zombies are real, but the superheroes, that's kiddie stuff.

There's a lot of science involved for the sun to "stop shining".

According to current science, the sun will eventually expand to swallow the earth then turn into a dwarf star before it "stops shining", so chances are we won't know about it when or if it does.

I guess you missed the religious aspect of my movie. The title and poster for this short imply that science may have nothing to do with it. I linked to it earlier in this thread. I'm just using the "science" part to determine what the effects would be if the Sun were to suddenly "stop shining".

Cheers,

Mike

another random thought....

Sometimes you have to give the audience what they THINK will happen, not what's scientifically accurate, to get them to go along.

If the sun stopped shining, I think things would get cold. I haven't a clue how long it would take. If it happened instantly, I'd say 'Nah, that's too fast.' If a century has gone by and nothing has changed, I'd say 'Nah, things would have gotten really cold by then.' If things get steadily colder over days/ weeks, ok, sounds reasonable.

As long as something doesn't totally blow your credibility, the audience ought to go along.

Of course, once the spiritual/non-scientific nature of the event is shown, well, how can anyone contradict you? The film obeys whatever you set down.

I'm making a new short film and I would like to pick a few brains.

If the Sun shut down... how long would Earth have until the temperature became uninhabitable for life as we know it. From what I've read... we would have a few weeks. Just go with the the question, don't debate over how the Sun died. Opinions needed! Thanks, MikeUmmm, if "the sun shut down" there would be big problems much quicker than a few weeks... the most significant one being we would (from the sun's perspective) be like a rock slung from a sling. Even ignoring the immediate and escalating cooler temperatures (a modest understatement), the atmosphere of our planet would steadily dwindle as centripetal force drops and the earth begins journeying out of our now non-solar system.

Freezing temperature, perpetual darkness, rapidly depleting air... the more I think about it, the worse the implications become. Sounds neat!

So hiding in a cave isn't gonna be enough... tho it would make a great visual metaphor for burying one's head in the sand.

Mr. Happy huh? On the plus side this is just idle speculation: I haven't bothered to verify any of it. So here's some fairly useless solutions you didn't ask for but I now feel obligated to provide as a counterbalance.

Perhaps aliens would rescue us. Or we drop icebergs into volcanoes to get more oxygen (I think Inconvenient Truth suggested this might also solve greenhouse problems, so doubleplus good for that idea). Or we nuke Jupiter instead of ourselves (it's been suggested Jupiter is a failed sun: enough things going boom might trigger it)... course, we'd have to find a way to get Earth to Jupiter, but one problem at a time.

Well it's certainly a good argument for making camcorders more sensitive in low light ... "Yeah but what if the Sun goes out? ... that's why I need a 1/2" chip in my camcorder. So it's better in those low light situations."

Thanks for the help guys! I finished the short.

You can check out my latest short here based on the original topic... JOEL 3:15 (http://www.dvxfest.com/allhallowsfest/loader.php?id=23552)

Let me know what you think.

Thanks,

Mike

I was reading and thinking why must the sun shut down? Why can't man have created something that when it gets to the ozone it causes a chain reaction which creates a solid/or gaseous dark layer around the planet which then causes the earth to lose all sunlight, this would mean no instant freeze or explosion or gravitational changes but the earth would start to cool since the heat from the sun hitting the oceans/land would cease. That may be a very plausible reason why it occurs, and it also allows for a longer timeline that can be believed. Just a thought, this I could see us doing.

Thanks for the help guys! I finished the short.

You can check out my latest short here based on the original topic... JOEL 3:15 (http://www.dvxfest.com/allhallowsfest/loader.php?id=23552)

Let me know what you think.

Thanks,

Mike

Very nice work, sorry I jumped in late and did not get to the last post when I first responded, but now I have, very nice.

Very nice work, sorry I jumped in late and did not get to the last post when I first responded, but now I have, very nice.Thanks!

Mike