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Alex Leith
October 14th, 2007, 04:07 PM
Apparently it needs to be PTP protocol otherwise the iPod will only import what it finds in the DCIM folder on the media card...

I'm guessing that the PMW-EX1 does not store clips to a "DCIM" folder...

Lets hope the card-reader supports PTP...

Serena Steuart
October 14th, 2007, 07:29 PM
And I also found this needed item since the EX1 has a firewire and not a USB connector:



The EX1 has USB, firewire (HDV), HD-SDI, SD-SDI as well as the usual analogue outputs.

Octavio Gasca
October 14th, 2007, 09:12 PM
The actual manual don't say anything about the USB protocol, but gives a hope:
"With the PMW-EX1 camcorder, recordings are made as data
files in the “MP4” format,which is widely used in a number of
recent electronic portable devices and has been
standardized by ISO.
The file-based recording allows material to be handled with
great flexibility in a commonly available IT-based
environment for copying, transferring, sharing, and archiving.
All these operations are accomplished lossless without any
“re-digitizing” process required."

Stil Williams
October 15th, 2007, 01:08 AM
For handing off rushes to clients I would recommend USB hard drives until such time as Blu-ray drives become common place. If you stick the Sony Browser Software on the disk as well the client can use that to view (full screen) and log the footage.

Sounds good but does this viewer software need to be installed natively into an OS to run ? I dont believe clients will be enthused about installing new software on any of their machines whether laptop/ desktop or workstation, to log and view footage.

Jiri Bakala
October 15th, 2007, 02:03 AM
I think most clients wouldn't object to installing a simple viewer. The issue really is how to hand the material over to clients at the end of the shoot (as in - the client is posting it and the camera operator is no longer involved at all).

Craig Seeman
October 15th, 2007, 08:42 PM
For those concerned about client playback keep the following in mind.
With miniDV a client was able to playback the tape with a consumer camera.
HDV on the other hand, is a major headache since there is no single deck and certainly no consumer camera that can play back every format from every HDV camera.

With EX1's .mp4 files the client may now download a simple free player (so we hope).

Yes what one hands to a client after a shoot is an issue. Portable 80GB USB drives can be found for under $100. 40GB are under $50.

While this is more expensive than DV or HDV tape it may not be too unreasonable.

Although we're comparing to DV and HDV because that may be where our client base in coming from, compare the same costs to DVCProHD tapes XDCAM discs or maybe even HDCAM tapes and the costs vs quality and ease of client playback of the file, make this format very attractive.

David Parks
October 15th, 2007, 09:07 PM
In addition to handing the client a USB drive, if they need to see rushes you could hand them a tape.

HDCAM through HDSDI out, Betacam SP through component analog, DV tape through iLink or dare I say it, a VHS from the composite out. It's a good thing Sony included all of these outputs.

Jiri Bakala
October 15th, 2007, 10:58 PM
DV tape through iLink...

Really? It downconverts to DV via FW? That would be great!

Piotr Wozniacki
October 16th, 2007, 12:46 AM
Really? It downconverts to DV via FW? That would be great!

No, it does not - HDV only.

Peter Arnold
October 16th, 2007, 02:25 AM
Thanks for all the infos in this thread..

There is an option for a flip 35mm Adapter on the EX. It's called EXTREME :-) and comes from Letus www.adapterplace.com

I will get 2 of those brand new adapters this week I hope or maybe next and will keep this forum updated about it. I will "only" be able to test it on my HVX200 and a F330 from a friend of mine. But the first scenes I saw look very very promising. The coolest thing is it cost only 1500$.

Peter

David Parks
October 16th, 2007, 08:17 AM
No, it does not - HDV only.

Piotr is right. My mistake. I should have read the fine print on the brochure.
It does however downconvert on the SDI. So in theory you could get a Convergent Design SDI to 1394 converter and make your downcoverted DV that way.