Joe Lawry
October 5th, 2007, 05:41 PM
Just thought i'd post my experiences after really putting colors workflow through its paces. If anyone else has found solutions to my problems please let me know.. so
Just finished off a 3 minute corporate promo video. All shot in DVCPRO50 off an HPX2000 and after that.. color and I are not friends.
Sending the sequence was fine, however i soon found a bunch of problems.
1. Color cant do clips with motion effects. You can grade them fine, however as soon as it comes to renders, for some reason color renders the whole original master clip that the in and the out on the timeline has come from. Very annoying. Lucky for me they were only 2 minute master clips.
However, its a huge issue. Im not prepared to go through a timeline before its sent to color, pull out all the slowed down or speed up clips and change them back to their original speed before sending them to color. I did try this after the edit was out and it worked fine.. but for anything longer than a 3 minute sequence.. no, Im not going to do it.
2. Color doesnt like you sending sequences from the same projects back and forth between it and FCP a number of times .
The first time i sent the sequence to color everything was fine.. bar the motion effect clips. I managed to send it back to FCP fine as well. I sent ended up having clients coming back and of course making changes post grade, so the sequence got sent back to color a number of times. By about the 7th time.. when color booted the sequence it had imported was not what i had sent it. Random clips from the projects.. all over the place basically.
I ended up copying the clips i needed to grade to another sequence and sending them over. This worked fine a couple of times but then stopped working. Very annoying, the handling of xml's needs to be sorted out.
The other major issue i had, which was my fault. Was somehow after my first grade i went to render and stupidly hadnt checked the color project settings and for some reason the whole render went out as ProRes422 HQ. You'd think this would be fine.. well no, it was a dvcpro50 50i timeline originally.. with a lower field dominance... and Prores has an upper field dominance.
Wow.. that caused some major issues, and it wasnt just a matter of dropping it into a new sequence. Why it hadnt defaulted to my original timelines settings i dont know.. but from now on im checking this.
Sorry for the long post. .but i needed to get that off my mind. If anyone has a way of sorting out the whole 'sending a motion effected clip to color' issue i've been having, let me know please.
I've also just noticed the sticky at the top of this forum about using color. Time to convince work i need to buy this.
Joe 'Loving colors grading options but hating the workflow' Lawry
Just finished off a 3 minute corporate promo video. All shot in DVCPRO50 off an HPX2000 and after that.. color and I are not friends.
Sending the sequence was fine, however i soon found a bunch of problems.
1. Color cant do clips with motion effects. You can grade them fine, however as soon as it comes to renders, for some reason color renders the whole original master clip that the in and the out on the timeline has come from. Very annoying. Lucky for me they were only 2 minute master clips.
However, its a huge issue. Im not prepared to go through a timeline before its sent to color, pull out all the slowed down or speed up clips and change them back to their original speed before sending them to color. I did try this after the edit was out and it worked fine.. but for anything longer than a 3 minute sequence.. no, Im not going to do it.
2. Color doesnt like you sending sequences from the same projects back and forth between it and FCP a number of times .
The first time i sent the sequence to color everything was fine.. bar the motion effect clips. I managed to send it back to FCP fine as well. I sent ended up having clients coming back and of course making changes post grade, so the sequence got sent back to color a number of times. By about the 7th time.. when color booted the sequence it had imported was not what i had sent it. Random clips from the projects.. all over the place basically.
I ended up copying the clips i needed to grade to another sequence and sending them over. This worked fine a couple of times but then stopped working. Very annoying, the handling of xml's needs to be sorted out.
The other major issue i had, which was my fault. Was somehow after my first grade i went to render and stupidly hadnt checked the color project settings and for some reason the whole render went out as ProRes422 HQ. You'd think this would be fine.. well no, it was a dvcpro50 50i timeline originally.. with a lower field dominance... and Prores has an upper field dominance.
Wow.. that caused some major issues, and it wasnt just a matter of dropping it into a new sequence. Why it hadnt defaulted to my original timelines settings i dont know.. but from now on im checking this.
Sorry for the long post. .but i needed to get that off my mind. If anyone has a way of sorting out the whole 'sending a motion effected clip to color' issue i've been having, let me know please.
I've also just noticed the sticky at the top of this forum about using color. Time to convince work i need to buy this.
Joe 'Loving colors grading options but hating the workflow' Lawry