View Full Version : Choosing PAL HDTV: EX1's native 24p & no 25p in BD


Piotr Wozniacki
September 16th, 2007, 07:18 AM
I'm using the 25p mode with my current Sony V1E, and play it back on PAL HDTVs (100 Hz refresh rate being a multiple of my footage fps). But I'm about to buy a new 50" full HD plasma, and am faced with a tough choice between:

- Panasonic model, cheaper but lacking a refresh rate being 24 fps multiple, or
- Pioneer "Curo" model, optimized for 24p (72 Hz refresh) but much more expensive.

Since I'll be also upgrading to the PMW-EX1 machine sooner or later, and this one offers native 24p, *AND* as we all know the BluRay specs do not include 25p - everything points to the latter choice.

But it's almost 2x more expensive! Can anyone advise on how important in practical terms it's to have a multiple of 24 fps - capable display? Unfortunately, I cannot check it myself, as I have no access to 24p capable equipment.

PS. Chris please feel free to move this thread where you feel it's more appropriate; I started it here because what's triggered my dilemma is in fact the new EX1 camera...

Martin Saxer
September 16th, 2007, 07:03 PM
There is also the option to shoot 25p and convert it to 24p by simply slowing it down by 4%. It is done with quite a few documentaries shot in Europe in 25p that are released for cinema in 24p. In my view, it doesn‘t change the mood of a film. Side by side you notice the audio‘s slightly lower pitch, but honestly it does hardly alter a voice‘s character.

You could go down the same road with BR. Give it a try.

Piotr Wozniacki
September 17th, 2007, 05:08 AM
Thanks, but this is is not the topic of my question. To put is differently: is 72Hz option in Pioneer plasmas (or even higher multiplies of 24, like 120Hz) worth the price premium? Or is 24p material played back on regular PAL HDTVs (50/100Hz) acceptable, motionwise?