Is there a Hard Drive Disk where, instead of recording to tape, you may record straight to the Disk for faster editing.

I am trying to get DVD's made for my School's Football Coaches and they are getting tired of staying with me 'til 1AM to get their DVD's done. (and under- standably so!)

Joseph

P.S. I heard you can with the A1U, but I have a couple of Z1U's.

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Yes,

I have the V1U and I use the Sony HR60 hard drive recorder with it. Its VERY small and can be attached to the shoe on the camera. It was expensive but I love mine!

I also have a few of the nNovia drives too. They work just as well as the Sony drive but are a lot larger. The transfer rate into the computer is faster with the nNovia too. The price for the nNovia can be a bit less than for the Sony drive.

Either way once you go tapeless you won't want to go back.

Chris

I want to second the Sony HR60 choice. I use it to film sports for a small cable tv station. The advantage of HR60 is that it has this sort of auto detect mode, where you can switch from recording HDV or avi and not have to change a setting on the hard disk.

Since I saw from your website that you are Apple based...

The nNovia drives have the option for you to record Quicktime files. I've never used one but I think the Firestore products have a similiar option.

But will the HR60 work with the Z1U???

Joseph

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But will the HR60 work with the Z1U???

Joseph

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Absolutely. Some features of the HR60 are functional only with the V1U (on screen display of the status is one) but basic recording and playback works great with the Z1.

The HR60 even works well with my HC3!! :)

Chris

Where did you all but the HR60, and how much was it.

Thanks for the GREAT news!!!

Where did you all but the HR60, and how much was it.

Thanks for the GREAT news!!!

I got mine from BHPHOTO. They are one of the sponsors of the forums here.

You can check the recorder out at this link:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/461819-REG/Sony_HVRDR60_HVRDR60_Hard_Disk_Recording.html

It comes with everything you need out of the box except a battery. Luckily it uses the same battery as the V1/Z1 so if you have spares you will be set.

One other thing...is the HVR-DR60 compatible with Final Cut Studio?

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It is formatted as FAT32, so should be fine. Presumably you won't have a single take longer than the 4GB that Fat32 allows

I have decided to buy the FS-4 HD Pro. The reason is, it writes more varieties of files, and it is cheaper, upgradeable, and most of all, I won't have to worry about having to convert .mp2 files to .mov files.

Thanks for your input, and I thank you for your time!


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Buy scopebox - and record it in any format right onto the hard drive of your computer.

-j

The Sony also is formatted in FAT32? It seems that most of the direct-to-disk options use FAT32 instead of NTFS, despite the filesize limit.

I guess there is a reason. I would be interested to know it.

Its done for several reasons. I feel these are the major ones.

Compatibility with MAC. MACs can read but not write to NTFS.

Second is that NTFS is owned by Microsoft and you must pay a royalty to use it.

Chris

Its done for several reasons. I feel these are the major ones.

Compatibility with MAC. MACs can read but not write to NTFS.

Second is that NTFS is owned by Microsoft and you must pay a royalty to use it.

You must pay what and why to MS? You are just formatting.

You must pay what and why to MS? You are just formatting.

I know it seem all to simple but NTFS is a pretty complex file system. There is more to it than meets the eye.

You must purchase a license from MS to gain access to the specification that allows you to write your drivers so they can interact with a NTFS partition. Also if you are going to establish a partition you have to know how to do it and have copies of the base software that is contained in the master boot record.

Chris

You must purchase a license from MS to gain access to the specification that allows you to write your drivers so they can interact with a NTFS partition. Also if you are going to establish a partition you have to know how to do it and have copies of the base software that is contained in the master boot record.


Please forgive my ignorance in not quite understanding what you mean. Probably this is due to my quite not knowing how you format those HDDs that you can you use with a camera, which are not exactly simple HDDs but small computers indeed.

In my head they came formatted and you just connected them to your camera and computer. Several functions could be done when interfacing with your PC, but for that there should be some kind of OS in the HDD to take care of that. But paying so much money and not getting a disk with the OS for your drive?

Maybe this is what you are talking about. Is that so?

You are quite right. A device like the Sony HR60 or the Firestore are indeed computers with hard drives connected to them. They are obviously not like a desktop computer but they are certainly computers.

You are also correct that a hard drive has a PHYSICAL format. This is done by the manufacturer when the drive is made. Separate from the physical format is the file system (FAT, NTFS). It is the responsibility of the computer that is going to work with that drive to maintain the file system portion of the hard drives format.

The part of the hard drive that the computers operating system interacts with (the file system) has rules and very specific methods of interaction. In the case of NTFS knowing what those rules are is what MS wants you to pay for when you decide to develop your small computer to interact with a hard drive formatted with NTFS.

Chris

Please forgive my ignorance in not quite understanding what you mean. Probably this is due to my quite not knowing how you format those HDDs that you can you use with a camera, which are not exactly simple HDDs but small computers indeed.

In my head they came formatted and you just connected them to your camera and computer. Several functions could be done when interfacing with your PC, but for that there should be some kind of OS in the HDD to take care of that. But paying so much money and not getting a disk with the OS for your drive?

Maybe this is what you are talking about. Is that so?

In the case of NTFS knowing what those rules are is what MS wants you to pay for when you decide to develop your small computer to interact with a hard drive formatted with NTFS.

Well, it seems I found just one more reason for not using HDDs! ;)

Long live tape!...