View Full Version : Casio developing 300 fps CMOS based camera


Sam Ferra
August 31st, 2007, 05:46 AM
World’s Fastest-Shooting Digital Camera Casio 300 fps
Full details:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0708/07083101casio300fps.asp

Holger Leonhard
August 31st, 2007, 07:08 AM
Red Killer .. ;)

Kurth Bousman
August 31st, 2007, 07:20 AM
hands on at

http://www.engadget.com/photos/hands-on-with-casios-60fps-digital-camera/

Wayne Morellini
August 31st, 2007, 11:28 AM
This is not fair, I was just gettign ready to purchase an Sanyo HD1000. Well, at least I should be able to afford it (but how do I record 360Mp/s). When is it to be released?

I hope this 360mp, can be done in lossless bayer compression, and you can select 50fps.

Holger, possibly, maybe not the Red One, but when is the Red Pocket coming?

Amazing that I missed this Sony sensor announcement, that they think is being used for the camera:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0702/07021801sonyhighspeedcmos.asp
http://www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/cx_news/vol47/featuring.html

Jack Zhang
August 31st, 2007, 04:03 PM
Biggest worry about this: Global shutter or Rolling shutter?

Joe Busch
August 31st, 2007, 05:59 PM
I see myself owning one of these in the future if the price-tag isn't ridiculous...

Jacob Mason
September 1st, 2007, 01:18 AM
The 300fps slow motion sample clips seen here (http://world.casio.com/ngdc/en/features3.html) will bring a tear to your eye.

I won't even bother asking when this technology will be implemented on larger APS or full frame 36mm x 24mm sensors within DSLRs.

It'll be here before we know it.

Wayne Morellini
September 1st, 2007, 09:52 AM
Maybe I could possibly buy both the Sanyo and the Casio ;) . Still want to see the Red mini, Pana, JVC, and Sony pro like camera options.

Paulo Teixeira
September 1st, 2007, 10:57 AM
I have a theory that a DSLR camera with this technology will come very soon because Sony does have a couple of prototype DSLR cameras that they are about to release and one of them does look like it will be full frame.

Serge Victorovich
September 1st, 2007, 01:38 PM
Imo, the full resolution shooting at 60fps possible only for short time (2-3sec) to RAM...

Joe Busch
September 1st, 2007, 07:10 PM
It states it can do 60fps video, and the 300fps was the burst (I thought)

They could easily stick a LOT of ram in there, and with big enough cards (even a harddrive through USB 2.0 port or something similar)

A lot of possibilities :)

Holger Leonhard
September 2nd, 2007, 02:31 AM
I also wonder how they will handle the giant datarate ..

a single .jpeg in high res and good quality is approx 3.5 MBytes, thats 210 MBytes/second @60fps !!!
210 * 8 = 1,68 Gigabits/sec.
Even when I reduce Quality and resolution I reach something like 500 Gigabit/sec. LOTs of data ..

A 8 GByte Card could record 40 seconds at best quality, If it can handle the datarate. But even the fastest Card is rated 20 MByte continuous Datarate, only 10% of the needed bandwidth .. so the technical limit would be around 0.8 MByte per image @ 24 fps.

Or they use jpeg2000 compression, but then I wonder what processor they use, jpeg2000 is very demanding even for fast desktop CPUs.

Paulo Teixeira
September 2nd, 2007, 09:56 PM
Here are some extra photos:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/ifa2007/casio-exilim-first-360-view-295617.php
http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/16502/casio-digital-camera-prototype/
http://www.tech.co.uk/gadgets/digital-cameras/digital-cameras/news/casio-shows-off-worlds-fastest-digicam?articleid=2104541081&zoompopup=true

Steven Thomas
September 3rd, 2007, 09:39 AM
It states it can do 60fps video, and the 300fps was the burst (I thought)

They could easily stick a LOT of ram in there, and with big enough cards (even a harddrive through USB 2.0 port or something similar)

A lot of possibilities :)

I heard just the opposite of that.
60FPS full frame
300FPS VGA movie resolution.

Man, I hope they stick an HDMI out capable of 1080P. Now that would be awesome!

Serge Victorovich
September 3rd, 2007, 10:07 AM
Man, I hope they stick an HDMI out capable of 1080P. Now that would be awesome!

In this case who need these hdv/avchd 1440x1080i camcorders?:)

Holger Leonhard
September 3rd, 2007, 03:32 PM
I am afraid & shure the way to control focus, aperture and zoom while shooting will be awful .. so its great for special things, but will not replace a real motion camera, even if the quality is better.

A Idea how to handle the datarate: maybe the cam doesnt record a real image (jpeg) sequence but uses a interframe codec like H.264 - later, when you acess a single image, it generates a jpeg from it. This might be a chance to handle the datarate. But this also might cause the image quality of a "interpolated" serial image is much lower then what we know from other photo cams. This also needs a very powerful internal processor - anybody out there owning a desktop Mac or PC which can do high Quality H.264 encoding @60fps in realtime ?

Mark Williams
September 3rd, 2007, 05:03 PM
I really want to do good slow motion. This may fit the bill. I am not yet ready to move up from SD and good slow mo would really help enhance some of the nature stuff I video as well as give me a good cam to do stills.