Any 2.o users having problems with capturing HDV using the br-50 deck?
Every time I open the capture window i get Capture device offline. It does DV fine...but not HDV. So much for "native" HDV editing.

I am considering buying PP2 to edit with - are you having the same problems while digitizing with the camera itself (if you have tried)?

I'm quite interested....

John

evilgeniusentertainment.com

Hi David,

Have you contacted your reseller for support? An authorized reseller should be able to get help for you through JVC Pro's Sales Engineers and Customer Care Center.

Also: Have you contacted Adobe for support?

Regards, Carl

Well let me try to go into more detail without boring anyone too much.
I have a dual 3.2 dell with all the bells and whistles. I bought Premiere 2.0 and the jvc hd-100U and br-50 deck package from B&H. I can capture dv fine but when I open a HDV project and go to capture it says capure device offline.

I tried hooking up the camera and I got the same message. I did notice that when I tried to select the device control and looked for the JVC deck it was not an option. But chosing the "alternate 1 " choice would control the deck in dv mode. Adobe was not sure why that choice was unavailable...they said it was a JVC issue and they did not have any updates for new decks. Maybe you could help me with that one Carl. Anyway PP2 works great with standard DV but its Native HDV has some issues.

By the way I loaded the Cineform HD program and it does not reckognize the
capure device as well.

Thanks in advance for any help you all can give me

Although as you know it' s not the only way to work with HDV in Premiere, Aspect still seems to me to be the best. I use the BR-HD50 with Aspect and it gives me good deck control and good capture. I haven't really tried the "native" HDV (non-Aspect) option but from what I've heard, Aspect is still the ticket.

One thing I learned, don't bother with the Addenda-type serial cable. It gives me control over the deck, except capture doesn't work.

Tip

Hi David,

I do not know much about capture or editing with Premier. My background is more in Avid land.

Anyone out there a Premier Pro expert?

How about B&H's support?

David, one question I would have for you is do you have an "A" version GY-HD100U camera? If not, then you should get your camera upgraded, which is a free service that JVC is offering thru July 31st. Some of the improvements involve better control interface with various NLE's. If you do need to upgrade your camera, ask our service dept to check out the firewire connection to make sure it's good in the HDV mode.

Here's the link to the upgrade website. This gives you the all of the info needed to get the upgrade.

http://pro.jvc.com/pro/special/HD100_upgrade/hd100upgrade.html

Regards, Carl

Thanks Carl...I do have the A version...I have not tried to capture since I got it back. I will do it tonight and report.

I just tried it and still a no go.

Thanks Carl...I do have the A version...I have not tried to capture since I got it back. I will do it tonight and report.

Your problem feels like Window's HDV FireWire drive may not be loaded or working. Try looking at the CineForm help site where they discuss how to check and fix this.

David,

My email is in my profile, contact me and I will give you my phone number directly. I'm using the same JVC camera/deck with PPro 2 in a working production workflow without a hitch. It works very well for the most part. By phone we can walk you through a checklist of items to be sure you are setup correctly. We can cover more ground in less time this way. Then maybe you can come back and share your findings here in case others run into the same issue.

And Tip is dead on regarding Aspect HD, I know it's another chunky little investment but it's worth every penny considering your (our) hardware/workflow. We realized this fact early on after purchasing our camera and pushing through our first project.

Look forward to hearing from you.

I have no problems capturing HDV with Premiere Pro 2.0 and I'm not using any plug-in. I just connect the camera to the fire-wire and windows recognize it as a DV device. It's funny that it used to reconize the camera as a JVC device... not anymore since I upgraded my hardware and reinstaled windows. Do you have all your drivers and windows updated?

Thanks Daniel I will call you when I get off of work for my day job.
And Diogo...I will look into the windows drivers issues as well.

Hello Dvinfo community,

My question is regarding a problem I’m having with Capturing HDV video clips in Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0, using the JVC GY-HD100U “A” version.

The video clips I’m capturing are in 24p HDV and 30p HDV. I’m using an updated version of Windows XP, and a Radeon x850 xt pe graphics card, with the latest Catalyst drivers for it. I’m using the firewire from the cam to the firewire on my motherboard (asus p4c800 deluxe mobo).

I can’t preview the video on my CRT monitor while the capture is in process. All I see on the screen in Premiere Pro 2.0 are the words… “Capturing…” with a black background behind it. In order to actually see the video I’m capturing during the capturing process I have to use the tiny LCD screen on the camera. Which is functional, but not very fun to do. However, I can see a preview in Premiere when I use a little DV cam I bought about 6 years ago (Sony TRV320).

I think this must be a settings problem within Adobe Premiere Pro V2.0, but I can’t figure out what I’m doing wrong.

I’m a noob by the way, so go easy on me. I’ve only had the camera for 2 weeks, and the program for even less than that… lol.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Michael Steeves
nfbshotmatch@hotmail.com

I have the same situation, but no answers.

Martin Wellhoefer

Do you have two monitors set up or just one? I know if may seem like a silly question, but I've had this happen in an ppro 1.5. if the capture window was on the the second monitor, I couldn't see anything... but when I moved it over to the first monitor I could. give it a try....

Hello DJ,
No, I only have the one monitor hooked up to my computer, and it's selected as the primary monitor in the display section of my properties.
Thanks
Michael

Having worked with PP2 for some time now, I have never found any way to get it to display video in the capture window while capturing. It does play video there while searching (playing or shuttling) but once you hit the capture button, it sends the picture to the external monitor.

If there is no picture in the capture window, why even have it? And to add to the aggravation, of course PP 1.5 did display there during capture.

Hopefully there are two steps forward somewhere to make up for this one step backward.

Tip

Hey there,
No you can't preview the footage in the capture window while capurting, that would take too much processing power. What you can do, is connect your camera's component outputs to the CRT monitor for previewing while capturing. If it's a standard resolution monitor just go into the camera's menus and change the output resolution from "Native" to 480I (US) or PAL (EU) so that you get a down convert, that way you can watch the camera outputting on your monitor while capturing, it's the only way for now

Ben Jehoshua
www.imagelinemedia.com

Hi, I wish to know can I record in 24p in DV mode on HD100 where by I can get the slight juddery film motion/look/feel in recording & can also edit on Stardard Editing machi9nes like on Matrox RTx100 systems in Prem 6.5 & then finally burn DVDs of the events. I am an event videographer & was curious to buy a HD100 to get better 16:9 filmy video.

Looking for insight on the subject.

Looking out for answers .....

Hi, I wish to know can I record in 24p in DV mode on HD100

Yes- you can record 24p or 24p"a" in standard def DV mode on the HD100 if you choose.

Hi Again, Is there any newver update to HD100 cming out soon as I am in process to order One very soon so i better wait & watch if any new varient is on its way !!!

2 new upgrade models are coming in Oct 2006
Here is a chart to show differences.
http://www.snipurl.com/jvccomparison

Hey RAM.

Thx, seems like HD250 would become my choice esp cox of the inbuilt sturdy AB mount ... i will be able to use my FS3 in SD mode recording.

Well i have to save & wait a bit more to earn this camera !!!

Still I feel paying the double amount for an inbuilt AB Mount & few other 60p capabilities (NTSC) or 50p (PAL) is way too much ... :(

Hi All,
I'm not sure if this is the right place for this post, sorry if it's OT....

Using the JVC hd 100, I am looking for info about shooting in HD24p for DVD publishing using Adobe Video Suite.
Mostly I need to know if this is possible. I need to publish in SD 24p 16:9 now, and when HD DVD is available re-publish in HD 24p.

Or should I stay away from the 24p and shoot in 30p? I really like the slower frame rate for this project so if there is anyway to get the 24p onto DVD I am interested in the work flow.

Any help would be great, this is my first project with the camera and I don't want to end up with footage I can't publish to DVD using Adobe software.

Thank you for your time,
Jon

Jon,


We do it on a regular basis with the HD100 and Premiere Pro 2. 24P editing in both SD and HD works fine, and DVD authoring in SD 24P also works as it should.

Peace!

Hi Daniel,
I'm a little fuzzy with your reply.
Can I shoot/edit in HD 24p (AspectHD codex), then transcode to SD 24p 16:9 for the DVD? Do I transcode in Ppro 2 or Encore 2?
Right now I'm using Ppro 1.5 with AspectHD for capture, but plan on upgrading to Ppro2 and Encore DVD 2 for the project.
Thanks again for your time,
Jon

Jon,

The workflow you mentioned will work perfectly. You can transcode either in PPro using Adobe Media Encoder or in Encore.

best regards

Great, thanks!
One less thing to worry about :-)
Jon

...is this possible?
Not a major issue as I will soon migrate to FCP on a mac (currently awaiting any possible iMac upgrade over the next couple of weeks). However, in the meantime it would be nice to know I could shoot some HDV (25p) and down convert it using this program (as far as I'm aware you cannot down convert from the camera itself?).
Sorry if this has already been covered...I've searched back a few pages and nothing was apparent.

Many thanks.

Yes, you can.

Cheers. I've just read up a little and it appears I may have to upgrade 1.5...then purchase an add on HD program, unless that is for strictly editing HDV footage (which I'm not to fussed about at the moment)...or is 'yes, you can' relating to downconverting from the camera itself?

Thanks.

Yes from Premier, and no not directly from the camera. ;)

And yes again, you are correct that you will need something (like Cineform's Aspect HD) to work with the footage as HD in Premiere. Edit everything as HD and when done editing simply choose an SD format for the export with a pixel aspect ratio of 1.2 (widescreen).

Thanks Daniel.
I suspected I may have to purchase add ons for my version of Premiere...I guess it's not worth as later this month I'm 'migrating' to a mac using FCP.
Shame about the camera not down converting mind!
Cheers
Dave.

Yes from Premier, and no not directly from the camera. ;)

And yes again, you are correct that you will need something (like Cineform's Aspect HD) to work with the footage as HD in Premiere. Edit everything as HD and when done editing simply choose an SD format for the export with a pixel aspect ratio of 1.2 (widescreen).


Actually Premeire 1.51 upgrades Premiere Pro to HDV capture, using the Cineform codec as the intermediate capture codec. You edit in that, and then down convert from there. 2.0 uses "native capture" and editing, but Cineform Aspect is recommended by most for reducing load on system, and superior editing and color handling.

Aspect HD edits like SD DV in PPro2 and for my needs has the plugins I use most, Cross Dissolve, Color Adjustment, Speed, all in RT.
But I too will be moving onto a mac using FCP soon.

Has anyone been able to succesfully BATCH capture from a JVC BR-HD50 via IEEE1394 with Premiere 1.5.1? While our system will free capture from the deck it will not correctly control it for batch capture. I did have the firmware upgraded to 1.05 but the results were the same.

Premiere can't seem to bring the deck back into search mode from a dead stop. If I manually bring it to still mode or play while trying to batch capture Premiere will grab control, cue it and begin the capture. However, the capture duration remains at 0 during recording and more often than not misses the out point.

Even more strange is that I am able to batch capture from our JVC GY-HD100u via IEEE1394 cameras flawlessly.

Anyone have insight on this problem?

Thanks,
Jeff Schaap
Red Letter Productions
Adrian, Michigan

Looking for help with a problem. Am capturing HDV from my HD100 into Premiere Pro 2 using the JVCHDPro codec (not Aspect). Video captures fine, but the audio runs for about a minute and a half and then goes into a loop (about 1.5 minute loop) for the rest of the capture. Anyone experience this? Any suggestions? My system: Pentium D 3.0 Ghz dual, 7800 video card, 2 GB RAM, 580 GB of hard drives, OS is XP Pro. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks much!
Max.

I just wanted to post that I FINALLY was able to resolve this problem and it turned out to be something very simple. For whatever reason, the INPUT switch (not the IEEE siwtch) on the front panel has to be in the "HDV/DV" input position in order for the deck to correctly be controlled by Premiere. WHO KNEW?

Hey all, I want to start out by thanking Mr. Dashwood, Mr. Noe, and Mr. Ciccone for their wonderful thread on scene files. We're finally getting the opportunity to use them and the guide and articles written by you three were an amazing help.

But beyond that, we're gearing up for a commercial shoot in which I would like to attempt doing a direct to disk capture. I believe it will be an unfortunate necessity because the commercial will be playing on the local Comcast channel which has a bad time of not setting standards for what they broadcast. So I was hoping I could salvage as much of the integrity of the picture by capturing it uncompressed.

The problem there is our main editing platform is now 5 years old and sorely underpowered. We're stuck with the machine for a while longer until we're able to pay off our first equipment purchase debt and we don't have the funds right now to buy a program like DV Rack. (The system is a P4 2.26ghz, 1 gig RDRAM, NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 @ 128 mb, running Adobe Production Bundle.)

So my question is: is there a cheap (free, if possible) alternative to capturing direct to disk on this antiquated system? Something I can download?

Another alternative is that my partner has a personal laptop that runs FC 5.x.x, through which we'd be able to edit HDV, but again we'd need a cheap/free solution to capture uncompressed.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys.

I don't know if this would work for you....

I use dvrack (hdvrack I guess more accurately) and it will capture Mpeg2 files to the hard drive. Maybe you could download the trial version?

The trial versions won't let you record. Does quick time Pro have a live recording feature? Also how are you going to get it into the computer? The only uncompressed outputs on the 100 or 110 are the analog outs.

Daniel, I checked into DVRack last night. They say you cannot record with the demo version.

Jerry, this is exactly why I needed your help. I did not know the Firewire connection wasn't uncompressed. Thank you very much.

I played around with the camera and Premiere after I posted. It seems as though I was able to capture SD and HDV through firewire, but it didn't seem to be uncompressed. Also, I don't know if because the camera wasn't recording, there was a change in quality.

I think after some consideration and talking with my partner, we're going to attempt FC. A friend of our's says he's used d2d with success and no additional software or hardware on FC. But again, this would be through firewire and not component.

Sometimes I regret not fully pursuing film...

Joshua.
The FW connection will give you the same result of what you record on tape. Unless you can use a card like the AJA with component input you are better off by just recording to tape and then ingest the footage traditionally.

VLC videoLAN player has a stream capture function. Do a global search of all forums and see what you come up with. It's free.

Paolo, thank you. I think that's what I need to do and just hope and pray my limited abilities can carry the project.

Thank you all for your advice and help. This is a truly remarkable forum where novices like myself can get real assistance from down to earth professionals.

Which NLE supports 720/50p from JVC GY-HD201/251?

I don't think any NLE has CODEC support for the 720p50 / 60 CODEC. We offer an HDMI -> HD-SDI converter (HD-Connect MI) which works with all JVC tape formats

AFAIK, Liquid will work fine with HDV1 720p/50 and 60 even though it is not officially supported. Maybe Stephen Noe can jump in on this.

The Convergent box is fine as long as you HAVE HD SDI or HDMI ingest capability. Many HDxxx users do not.

What about Adobe Premiere Pro with Cineform Aspect HD, does this support 50p?

Okay, So i filmed in 30fps, 720 output.
Trying to edit it in PP2.

I can control the camera from capture, but no picture and it keeps telling me the camera has shut off yet it hasn't.

The record in pp2 is ready to record, but nothing is ever recorded. I've spent almost 5 hours trying to do this.

Can anyone please give me a walk through...