Don't know why we didn't post this earlier... Panasonic's new AVCHD cams, HDC-SD5 and HDC-SX5:

http://dpnow.com/4063.html

http://www.simplydv.co.uk/newsitems/panasonic_hdc-sd5-sx5_news.html

Panasonic's HDC-SD7 dons title of world's smallest HD camcorder
http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/01/panasonics-hdc-sd7-dons-title-of-worlds-smallest-hd-camcorder/

http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=hu&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20070801/pana1.htm

Thanks Robert -- that's three new Panasonic AVCHD cams then.

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.sense.panasonic.co.jp/PanaSense/WP04/WP0402.jsp%3Fauc_key%3DAuction_PRD2&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dwatch%2Bimpress%2Bavwatch%26num%3D50%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26rls%3DGGGL,GGGL:2 006-17,GGGL:en
http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20070802/pana.htm&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dwatch%2Bimpress%2Bavwatch%26num%3D50%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26rls%3DGGGL,GGGL:2 006-17,GGGL:en

Is there any data rates mentioned for the new pocket camera, I don't seem to see any.

I believe the data rates are the same for all three of these new Panasonic AVCHD cams... 13, 9 and 6 Mbps.

The new Full HD (1920x1080i) on the Panasonic cams is CBR @ 13 Mbps. The old encoding of 1440x1080i was VBR.