very cool maybe it is possible to add a mask on the top of the image with line of the safe area
silicon imaging gui is what I think is the best one
some ago I worked on this with flash ...but under linux flash is not a good idea elphel GUI-2
and I used big buttons because I tink that the way to go is the use of small screen 10" max

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/alternati...33-html-2.html

Sebastian,

I made a quick example of my idea about the interface.
If the live image would be auto-scalable (to the screen resolution or window size) then we can use tablet PCs with portrait/landscape modes. This would really make the final camera smaller.
But of course when the screen has rotated 90 deg, you'll end up with a small live preview and lots of empty space.
With that in mind it would be a good idea to make a frame below the interface with the HDD file browser. When you're in landscape mode, you need to scroll down to use the file browser of course.
In my example I've also made the buttons bigger. Those buttons should stay the same size in portrait mode, so they have to be able to rearrange in two rows.

Just some suggestions :-)

Good ideas!

I found out that mplayer can nicely be integrated into java so this would mean the whole application could be a single java applet.

The concept image I made already has the 1024x600 resolution of most netbook screens. But you are right the interface should adapt itself to the current screenresolution.

The main functionality of the filebrowser you mentioned would be to review recorded clips I assume.
So why not add a button to review the last recorded clip as well in the main interface.

I don't like the scrollbars, the filebrowser should be accessible with a normal button in the bottom menu I think.




We should start to look for an official name for the project:

I think we need a short project name and lengthier subtitle

Requirements for the project name:
*) short and descriptive
*) easy to remember
*) cool sounding
*) should allow us to reuse the name for sequell/sub projects

Requirements for the subtitle:
*) "open source"
*) "based or powered by Elphel"


Any suggestions welcome!

Btw: I created a google group for developing this camera. Just PM me if you want to participate and I will invite you.

Matteo.. Of course I also haven't forgotten your input. Too bad the flash design doesn't work out. Java is a good alternative. BTW, did you test it with an online camera or do you own an Elphel?

I have a name... just don't know it yet :-) ....but I'm on to it. Need to find someone who speaks Latin;-)

Apertus
 

OK, here's my idea: What is the most unique feature of this project and the Elphel philosophy?

-Open source-

Nothing else. Other features are all irrelevant, the whole point of us talking on this forum is because it's OPEN ..even the choice of the name itself :-)

So I figured.. what's the word for OPEN in Latin?

Open = APERTUS

So how about:

APERTUS - powered by Elphel

I think it's strong word and has a story to tell about the project background.

Oscar, your a genius!

It sounds similar to the very photography related word aperture!.

or the word Apparatus
Wikipedia:
Apparatus, (Latin, apparātus; plural apparatus or apparatuses) is a mass noun used to describe equipment designed or assembled for a particular purpose.


I also thought up some "epic" words but APERTUS beats them all!

Aurora (Aurora - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

Guernica (Guernica - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

Columbus (aren't we keen adventurers as well?)

Latin is the base of most modern languages. All kinds of words and terms originated from Latin, so it makes it universal.

Hi oscar
by now I've not tried any software cause I havn't got the camera yet
and now I'm spending a lot of money on software and hardware for my activity (I'm a civil engineer) so I've not so many money to spend
second, cause I'm not a programmer I had set aside the project for a while because before the coming of Sebastian (god bless you) this project (cinema side of the elphel camera) was growing so slow (I've taken a php book to learn it but it need too many time to me to start from zero) buy I've been a reader of the dvinfo thread :-)
third movie in dslr world was a fresh reality but I think that that project is more "open"
So now we have almost all that we need to start cooperate
I've made some experiment with the adapter. I've tryed a lot on this side
and I've seen that the best compromise is to use a medium format lens I've taken some old mamiya now I've got 35 3.5, 45 2.8, 80 1.9 and 2.8 and zoom 110-220
so the recipe is:
Mamiya 645 lens => 63mm => wax GG => 7mm => PCX Lens D70/FL67 [)=> +-100mm => camera
and the wax gg is made by an alloy of paraffin and beeswax 9:1. The pure paraffin is for a sale in a pharmacy

hope that that help someone :-)

I like tha idea of a name to this project
I like apertus but somthing remind me to aperture by apple
so that my quote

HYENA (very similar to a dog but almost wild - free )

don't know why but I think is cool

hi to all

I'd like to add one thing about the choice of the projects name:
We are not aiming at a mass consumer market with this name. If we would pick a too slick name, we would raise too much expectations on a 'growing' project. It has to have a modest feel to it too.

So I'd suggest we really consider Apertus.
(referring to another discussion:) I think most people around here would know how to pronounce Apertus. :-)

About the name: "Apertus" is still my favourite.
Is it pronnounced just like "aperture" but with an "s" at the end?

I did a quick google search:
Welcome to Apertus - Open Source, SaaS, Out Sourcing is already taken by some Indian open source software service company.

apert.us would still be available ;)

Of course we can also ask for an elphel subdomain: apertus.elphel.com

Another idea about the project name:

What about calling the project: "OpenEyes" and instead of Eye we write "Open Is" or "Open iiis"

Just imagine the video description: "filmed with open eyes" ;D

Regards Sebastian

just for info:

english: open
old latin: apertus
italian: aperto
spanish: abierto

I suggest we close the discussion about the name for now and carry on with the main topic.

It will not be long before I can start testing the first 12v camera (many thanks to Elphel for improving the 12v version!)
What options do we got? The battery has to be usable for at least an hour, easy to mount at various places on the rod support (for balancing) and possibly chargeable 'on camera'. For the 333 I successfully used a drill battery, but it discharged withing half an hour and was very bulky on the camera.

Any suggestions?

EDIT: The Elphel Wiki has a page about the 12v version: http://wiki.elphel.com/index.php?tit...ions&rcid=5266

Maybe using one of those A123system battery Packs used by DeWall ?

Yes, maybe. We also need a system where you can charge the battery AND power the camera at the same time, like a laptop. This is because we'd like to avoid rebooting (=resetting) the camera when the power runs out.

You could get it, there is newer technology, and dual core netbooks (tablets I don't know much) with DX10 chips with hardware acceleration. I had been waiting for Intel to release there DX10 hardware for their tablets, and now they have new n40 chipset and lower powered atom dual core. Nvidia has released a new small handheld PC box form factor (I believe they might still be talking to VIA about buying them, great move, a lot of nice portable stuff). The form factor can support a variety of processors, but newer Atom dual core is probably what you are looking for. The maximum, battery life for network that I have heard of, second hand, is around 26hours battery life, dual core In think.

Now back to it, for DX10 chips there is GPU programming, I think that the Nvidia version is called CUDA and is c++ like. But the problem is that you don't want to be the one making or converting the open source video codec for it.