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Toenis Liivamaegi September 30th, 2006 09:58 AM

It`s possible...
 
Well, actually, in beta testing stages we`ve been successfull with 55mm diametre vibration unit already that will fit cheap Nikon macro tubes too.
It could save Nikon users a $20 lens adaptor if nothing else.
And ofcourse it would certainly be possible to make bigger ones for extra money as it would require almost 75% more of that pricey special copolymer of what our units are made of.

Rich, PM me if you want to beta test that bigger unit to let everyone know if it`s possible to assemble that into a thorlab`s 3" and fit it to a camcorder somehow.

Cheers,
T

Rich Hibner September 30th, 2006 11:22 AM

T,

I'm talking to a guy who has a cnc machine. I'll get with you asap when I find out if he can make some parts for me. Thanks. And, I'll have to get with you on this diffuser I'm talking about. I think it's going to be a really good diffuser.

-Rh

Rich Hibner October 1st, 2006 12:42 AM

Arlight, I did some analyzing, I supopse that's the word, and the thorlabs tube is out of the question. The tube is 3inches in diameter leaving it pretty impossible to get a step down ring to anything. T, how are you placing your "piece" in the extension tube. Is it so snug it doesn't move at all? You custom cnc? I have a .pdf if you can give me an email address to send it to for you to look at. It would be perfect for your piece.

-Rh

Jim Lafferty October 1st, 2006 10:22 AM

Is there a step-up to the 3" tube? I really wish ThorLabs would make a 2.5" tube :(

Rich Hibner October 1st, 2006 01:32 PM

Yeah, me too. I've looked and nothing so far I come across makes a 75mm step up or down.

Rolland Elliott October 8th, 2006 02:30 PM

looks great
 
Looks great, let us know when you have it for sale. I'll buy several!

Rich Hibner October 10th, 2006 01:26 AM

T,

Okay, done some research and looks like I'll be able to do that Throlabs 3inch after all. So, shoot me and email and let me know how we can arrange and beta for it.

regards,
-Rh

Toenis Liivamaegi October 10th, 2006 05:52 AM

Rich,

Why should you still want to use thorlabs 3" tube when you can use thos cheap Nikon macro tubes with standard 58mm threads instead?
Only because of the looks I assume. PM me if you really want to beta this large and much heavier vibro assy.

Nikon macro/extension tubes with CINEDOF™ vibrating screen holder should be the easyest and cheapest way to make the smallest dust and splash proof DOF adaptor as you can screw even multi coated UV filters to both 58mm threaded ends of the longest nr. "3" tube.

Our upcoming tutorial will be groundbreaking ;)... just a little bit more patience.

Cheers,
T

Rich Hibner October 10th, 2006 09:44 AM

T,


The macro tubes aren't what I'm looking for. They're almost priced the same and it doesn't have retaining rings. Ohh and yeah, the looks man, that baby looks dead sexy with all black anoized alluminum. Also, another thing. Instead of having to change the tube to use different lenses IE Nikon, Canon, Minolta, you don't have to change the entire seteup, just the front and you're good. For every set of different lens, you have to buy another macro set. You won't be able to find a Canon FD macro set anywhere, rather than EOS. Much easier to handle. I'm green for the large and much heavier viboro assy.

My email is
F1lm3r@gmail.com

-Rh

Toenis Liivamaegi October 13th, 2006 06:05 AM

Just wanted to say that those "jin she jie quan" cheap Nikon macro tubes I`ve been talking about doesn`t always come with 58mm threads.
We just recieved another Nikon tubes set fom the same retailer with smaller than 58mm threads and also with smaller inner diametre than 55(.3)mm.

Regs,
T

Simon Fenton October 13th, 2006 07:01 AM

Toenis - I'm really looking forward to seeing the final release of the CineDOF adapter, a superb way of incorporating the Canon Microlens Array focus screens. All the best & thanks for sharing the info.

Toenis Liivamaegi October 18th, 2006 01:39 PM

one step closer to official release
 
Psst, would this do? www.cinedof.com (this is a non functional preview)
I really hope we can launch a fully functional web environment next week so everybody can place an order...
... actually we`ve had stocks for two weeks already.

Cheers,
T

Rolland Elliott October 18th, 2006 06:13 PM

$5 for the focusing screen from Canon parts
 
Hi Everyone.

I am getting very excited to try this new toy!

For those of you that will do it yourself, dont' buy the focusing screen from a retail store
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont....x=0&image.y=0
They cost $35.

You can buy them from canon's parts department for about $5 each. Just call up Canon and ask for their parts dept.

Peace, Rolland

Sam Jankis October 18th, 2006 10:48 PM

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Psst, would this do? www.cinedof.com (this is a non functional preview)

I like the mockup of your site. I even got a little chuckle from the cameramen... they looked familiar...

Rolland Elliott October 18th, 2006 11:30 PM

Here is a USA source for the cheap extention tubes
 
OK, I'm getting together all my necessary supplies,

http://cgi.ebay.com/Macro-Extension-...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Macro-Extension-...QQcmdZViewItem

$20 on ebay for USA buyers.

Toenis Liivamaegi October 19th, 2006 12:52 AM

Sam, those cameramen are indeed inspired from that "Fight lazy workers!" by unknown artist from 1931.

We have Nikon units (55mm diametre) in stock if anyone is interested in pre- release purchase. Just PM me.

Cheers,
T

Simon Fenton October 19th, 2006 02:08 AM

I ordered a Pre-release unit from Toenis last Monday, so expecting delivery in the next few days, (UK). I have all the parts ready, so I'll literally be able to put it together, get some test shots & report back here with my findings.

The Cinedof looks to be a very promising device at $50, but like my dear old gran used to say "the proof is in the pudding". Keep you posted!

Rolland Elliott October 19th, 2006 07:43 AM

does Canon gl2 or Sony VX2100 need 250 Dipoter?
 
Does anyone know if the Canon gl2 or Sony VX2100 need the 250d Dipoter to work with the cinedof unit?

thanks Rolland

Toenis Liivamaegi October 19th, 2006 07:44 AM

Rolland, can you verify if those tubes from Fotodiox/QualityFoto are with 58mm threads and with inner diametre of 55(.3)mm?
If so then this ebay shop is one of the best places to get stepping rings, Cokin filters, holders and hoods.
I`ve dealt with them before but havent brought extension tubes from them.

Cheers,
T

Rich Hibner October 19th, 2006 08:55 AM

T,

Did you get my last email?

David MD Smith October 19th, 2006 11:11 AM

Hi Toenis,

I was wondering how you fix the the mechanism inside the macro tube.
The Thorlabs ones have been so popular for so long with static diyers because of their retaining rings and threaded interior which also allows for very precise back focus adjustment.

Also, on the subject of camera to adapter fastening, if one were to use nikon macro tubes, with a nikon male at the video camera end, then you could use the nikon BR3 macro adapter (no idea what it's for in stills photography) together with a male-male 52mm macro coupler to give some thing that could be attached to the video camera's filter thread via suitable use of step up step downs.

Oh yeh, would your device be capable of vibrating the nikon type D screen with it's inbuilt condenser?

cheers

Dave

Rolland Elliott October 21st, 2006 09:58 PM

ebay tubes are odd sizes
 
OK I just got my ebay tubes in
The ebay extention tubes have the followign theads Canon about 59mm Nikon about 57mm

Very odd sizes.

I have 55mm and 58mm filters so I was able to guess the sizes.

Peace, Rolland

Toenis Liivamaegi October 22nd, 2006 11:04 AM

David, vibrating screen holder should be clued inside the tube with epoxy, hotglue etc after backfocus adjustment. As it is 8mm thick it aligns itself quite well and can be fixed with few drops of epoxy or even with bondo. It can be fixed with small scews too but this wouls require more tools than just a drill.

Rolland, that is the main problem with those tubes that some of Nikon ones are with odd threads and some are with standard 58mm threads. The main disadvantage is that those with 57mm threads are with smaller inside diametre too. Canon EOS/EF tubes are also with uncommon M60 0.75 threads that only Hasselblad used for some lenses.

Fortunate thing is that one can fit a metal ring ripped from common 55mm rubber lens hood inside the EOS/EF tube very snuggly and with little bit of threadlock it will remain there forever and one will have a standard 5mm threads on adaptor. We haven`t yet figured out how to port those uncommon threads on some Nikon tubes with parts available to everyone.
Maybe we will just come up with custom size stepping rings for different tubes.

Best regards,
T

Rolland Elliott October 22nd, 2006 11:43 AM

Adatper solutions
 
OK, I have been messing around with my cheap Ebay extention tubes. If you buy a 52mm UV filter and a 58mm to 52mm step down ring you can easily epoxy glue the assembly into the cheap ebay tubes using some epoxy like JB Weld.

Same thing for the Canon tubes except you use a 55mm UV filter and a 58mm to 55mm step down ring. I might leave the UV glass in there to protect the focusign screen from dust as an added benefit.

The filters fit pretty snugly. they just need a bit of epoxy to hold them in place.

Since The VX2100 and Canon GL2 are both widely used DV cams, I'm assuming most people will use a 58mm mounting thread, but you can use any step down ring to accomplish the appropriate size.

peace, Rolland

Rolland Elliott October 22nd, 2006 12:24 PM

polarizer filter might be better adatper
 
Now that I am thinking about this.

Wouldn't a rotating filter mount like those on polarizer filters be better for this project?

Afterall the focusing screen needs to be aligned to the camera sensor and the idea of screwing the tubes in and out sounds like a bad idea to me. Wouldn't that change the distance and hence focus area?

Peace, Rolland

Rich Hibner October 22nd, 2006 02:16 PM

I'd be cautious about the glue. I know people had problems ruining their Nikon Screens when they used superglue for something. So, just be careful.

Chris Knight October 22nd, 2006 05:38 PM

Confused about Distance from back of Lens to GG
 
With those marco tubes of yours, how do you you adjust the focusing screen so that it is the perfect distance from the back of the SLR lens? It's probably a stupid question but I'm a little confused.

Would rotating the focusing screen so that it is perfectly horizontal and locked into position be a problem as well?

Also, am I correct that at the ends of the macro tubes are a male and a female lens mount, and these lens mounts screw off with 55mm threads that can be stepped up or down to fit the appropriate camera?

I am very much intetested in your project and can't wait for your vibrating piece to be available. I got the 35mm adapter bug about a month ago and built my own adapter just from lurking around here. Now I'm looking for a cleaner solution...

Rich Hibner October 22nd, 2006 09:03 PM

Hopefully soon, T, will be able to get a prototype to me for the 3inch thorlabs or the 2inch and I can easily find a solution for the tubing, but that would require him to make larger diamaters, smaller and might make it, better or worse. My only fuss with the bigger thorlabs tube are the macro's. It sucks to have a bigger tube and a small macro or have a bigger macro meaning more money. So it's just considered fickle. I think the macro tubes have a slr lens mount on the end. So that means, you have to find a way to mount a lens coupling to your camera, then mount the tube for the vibrating hassy. The vibrating hassy for a 2inch tube only has to be 51 in diameter and wonder if that's too small.


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