4:4:4 10bit single CMOS HD project

Obin Olson · July 6th, 2004, 12:36 PM

LOL I don't think that will do much good UNLESS you grab a pic with you in the forground and the image in the background so I can see how BiG that screen is!! LOL

I wana get the MOVIE THEATER feel from your 80inch screen!

;)

man i am using an HD camera with nothing to display it on..weird huh?

FTP upload failed the first go around...doing it again..this WM9 file is huge 180megs...I don't nkow why

Steve Nordhauser · July 6th, 2004, 12:55 PM

Obin,
You could get a 1280x1024 projector for a reasonable price and hook it to your computer monitor output. I watch all my movies at home on a low end (800x600) projector connected to my DVD player on a 8' screen. Once you get used to that, 35" TVs seem like portables.

There is a Sanyo with a 1280x720 native resolution PLV-Z2 with a street price under $2K. Ebay has Dialite screens (8ft) for around $250 delivered. So, get a couple of theatre seats and start screening your work the way it was meant to be seen.

Obin Olson · July 6th, 2004, 01:14 PM

I am drooling at the mouth ;) this footage must look so much better then standard HDTV mpeg2 streams - I think I will take a PC with some footage over to the home theater store and take alook at it!

Steve Nordhauser · July 6th, 2004, 01:30 PM

Commercial opportunity there for the whole group - do a private in-store infomercial for a high end audio/video store in HD format and playable on a PC on their high end video systems - something that shows off the resolution, their knowledge, quality of the image.

All you need is a PC with a DVI monitor output....

That reminds me of the TV commercials in the 60s and 70s that would try to make you want a new color set by showing you an image of the new set with an oversaturated image - shown on your old set. Somehow it did look better than what you thought you were seeing.....

Jason Rodriguez · July 6th, 2004, 02:10 PM

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guys what NLE software is 10bit?

Final Cut Pro.

BTW, Obin I'm having problems working with your 10-bit Sheer video stuff because I don't have a 10-bit Sheer codec to work with in Quicktime! I think that codec is in beta right now, so I can't download it. Unless the Sheer team will give me the codec to work with, I can't do any 10-bit stuff in SheerVideo. When I do get a 10-bit codec, you'll be able to edit Sheer stuff no problem, although effects won't be real-time.

Obin Olson · July 6th, 2004, 02:45 PM

Jason join the beta team and download it FREE

http://www.bitjazz.com/sheervideo/beta_m.shtml

Obin Olson · July 6th, 2004, 02:48 PM

Good idea Steve I will forward that to the rest of the team hear as a production idea

Les Dit · July 6th, 2004, 03:16 PM

Obin, You have a JVC HD10 you can shoot with, right ? I'd love to see a side by side of the two framed about the same on the same subject..... it would be interesting to see how the 1.1 megapixel JVC compressed to 19 megabit looks next to your new camera.
Heck, you can even load the footage into Vegas and do a wipe between the two . An acid test.

-Les

<<<-- Originally posted by Obin Olson : I am drooling at the mouth ;) this footage must look so much better then standard HDTV mpeg2 streams - I think I will take a PC with some footage over to the home theater store and take alook at it! -->>>

Les Dit · July 6th, 2004, 03:19 PM

That's easy.... get the T2 extreme DVD, and play the 6.6 megabit media 9 movie . It looks great!
Or the 'Step into liquid' media9 HD movie, at 8 megabit.
They both look very good. All DVD's should be that way. Screw mpeg2, it's so 80's .

-Les

<<<-- Originally posted by Steve Nordhauser : Commercial opportunity there for the whole group - do a private in-store infomercial for a high end audio/video store in HD format and playable on a PC on their high end video systems - something that shows off the resolution, their knowledge, quality of the image.

All you need is a PC with a DVI monitor output....

That reminds me of the TV commercials in the 60s and 70s that would try to make you want a new color set by showing you an image of the new set with an oversaturated image - shown on your old set. Somehow it did look better than what you thought you were seeing..... -->>>

Richard Mellor · July 6th, 2004, 09:44 PM

this is a link to a native 16:9 dlp projector it,s brand new
and it,s claimed to put out 85% of the picture of a1280 x720 projector priced below 1,500.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attac...733&fullpage=1

Matthew Miller · July 7th, 2004, 03:05 AM

I must be loosing my marbles. It seems like there is an entire chunk of conversation missing. Obin, did you try to upload it. I seem to recall you posting a link to the WMV file and I seem to recall saying I couldn't use the link....
but now all that is gone. Maybe it's my computer messing things up, but I keep refreshing the page and all those posts are still gone.
Am I loosing it?
By the way, I have the Sanyo PLV-Z2 projector that Steve mentioned. It's great.

Rob Lohman · July 7th, 2004, 03:29 AM

Matthew: you are not loosing it. The posts are indeed gone. I
tried to fix the URL but was unsuccesful. Obin indicated he would
check it out and re-post the URL when it worked. So we are just
waiting for that to happen... I was trying to save some space in
this already long thread. Sorry about the confusion. No need to
reply to this post of mine though!

Rob Scott · July 7th, 2004, 07:40 AM

Hi all ... a brief software update. Not a lot of progress (I only had a few hours last night), but I did get my new lens and managed to get a clear image. Check out the blog for details.

Obin Olson · July 7th, 2004, 07:45 AM

Rob if you use Xcap and make an FMt file you can use that with your software

Rob Scott · July 7th, 2004, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Obin Olson wrote:
Rob if you use Xcap and make an FMt file you can use that with your software

I tried that, but XCAP told me that the "Lite" version wouldn't allow it. Maybe I missed something -- I'll try again.

July 6th, 2004, 12:55 PM	#557
Steve Nordhauser Silicon Imaging, Inc. Join Date: May 2004 Location: Troy, NY USA Posts: 325	Obin, You could get a 1280x1024 projector for a reasonable price and hook it to your computer monitor output. I watch all my movies at home on a low end (800x600) projector connected to my DVD player on a 8' screen. Once you get used to that, 35" TVs seem like portables. There is a Sanyo with a 1280x720 native resolution PLV-Z2 with a street price under $2K. Ebay has Dialite screens (8ft) for around $250 delivered. So, get a couple of theatre seats and start screening your work the way it was meant to be seen. __________________ Silicon Imaging, Inc. We see the Light! http://www.siliconimaging.com

July 6th, 2004, 01:30 PM	#559
Steve Nordhauser Silicon Imaging, Inc. Join Date: May 2004 Location: Troy, NY USA Posts: 325	Commercial opportunity there for the whole group - do a private in-store infomercial for a high end audio/video store in HD format and playable on a PC on their high end video systems - something that shows off the resolution, their knowledge, quality of the image. All you need is a PC with a DVI monitor output.... That reminds me of the TV commercials in the 60s and 70s that would try to make you want a new color set by showing you an image of the new set with an oversaturated image - shown on your old set. Somehow it did look better than what you thought you were seeing..... __________________ Silicon Imaging, Inc. We see the Light! http://www.siliconimaging.com

July 6th, 2004, 09:44 PM	#565
Richard Mellor Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: cambridge ma Posts: 247	dlp projector this is a link to a native 16:9 dlp projector it,s brand new and it,s claimed to put out 85% of the picture of a1280 x720 projector priced below 1,500. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attac...733&fullpage=1

July 7th, 2004, 03:05 AM	#566
Matthew Miller New Boot Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 20	I must be loosing my marbles. It seems like there is an entire chunk of conversation missing. Obin, did you try to upload it. I seem to recall you posting a link to the WMV file and I seem to recall saying I couldn't use the link.... but now all that is gone. Maybe it's my computer messing things up, but I keep refreshing the page and all those posts are still gone. Am I loosing it? By the way, I have the Sanyo PLV-Z2 projector that Steve mentioned. It's great. __________________ This is where my optional signature could have been.

July 7th, 2004, 03:29 AM	#567
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Matthew: you are not loosing it. The posts are indeed gone. I tried to fix the URL but was unsuccesful. Obin indicated he would check it out and re-post the URL when it worked. So we are just waiting for that to happen... I was trying to save some space in this already long thread. Sorry about the confusion. No need to reply to this post of mine though! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 6th, 2004, 12:36 PM	#556
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	LOL I don't think that will do much good UNLESS you grab a pic with you in the forground and the image in the background so I can see how BiG that screen is!! LOL I wana get the MOVIE THEATER feel from your 80inch screen! ;) man i am using an HD camera with nothing to display it on..weird huh? FTP upload failed the first go around...doing it again..this WM9 file is huge 180megs...I don't nkow why

July 6th, 2004, 01:14 PM	#558
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	I am drooling at the mouth ;) this footage must look so much better then standard HDTV mpeg2 streams - I think I will take a PC with some footage over to the home theater store and take alook at it!

July 6th, 2004, 02:45 PM	#561
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	Jason join the beta team and download it FREE http://www.bitjazz.com/sheervideo/beta_m.shtml

July 6th, 2004, 02:48 PM	#562
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	Good idea Steve I will forward that to the rest of the team hear as a production idea

July 6th, 2004, 03:16 PM	#563
Les Dit Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southern Cal-ee-for-Ni-ya Posts: 608	Obin, You have a JVC HD10 you can shoot with, right ? I'd love to see a side by side of the two framed about the same on the same subject..... it would be interesting to see how the 1.1 megapixel JVC compressed to 19 megabit looks next to your new camera. Heck, you can even load the footage into Vegas and do a wipe between the two . An acid test. -Les <<<-- Originally posted by Obin Olson : I am drooling at the mouth ;) this footage must look so much better then standard HDTV mpeg2 streams - I think I will take a PC with some footage over to the home theater store and take alook at it! -->>>

July 6th, 2004, 03:19 PM	#564
Les Dit Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southern Cal-ee-for-Ni-ya Posts: 608	That's easy.... get the T2 extreme DVD, and play the 6.6 megabit media 9 movie . It looks great! Or the 'Step into liquid' media9 HD movie, at 8 megabit. They both look very good. All DVD's should be that way. Screw mpeg2, it's so 80's . -Les <<<-- Originally posted by Steve Nordhauser : Commercial opportunity there for the whole group - do a private in-store infomercial for a high end audio/video store in HD format and playable on a PC on their high end video systems - something that shows off the resolution, their knowledge, quality of the image. All you need is a PC with a DVI monitor output.... That reminds me of the TV commercials in the 60s and 70s that would try to make you want a new color set by showing you an image of the new set with an oversaturated image - shown on your old set. Somehow it did look better than what you thought you were seeing..... -->>>

July 7th, 2004, 07:40 AM	#568
Rob Scott Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, TN (USA) Posts: 358	Software update Hi all ... a brief software update. Not a lot of progress (I only had a few hours last night), but I did get my new lens and managed to get a clear image. Check out the blog for details.

July 7th, 2004, 07:45 AM	#569
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	Rob if you use Xcap and make an FMt file you can use that with your software