4:4:4 10bit single CMOS HD project

Dan Diaconu · January 27th, 2005, 05:26 PM

I am ready for HD:
http://dandiaconu.com/gallery/ALL-CL...MGA0174?full=1

is HD ready for me?

Obin Olson · January 28th, 2005, 08:55 AM

Ok so I should have the 64bit card TODAY! meanwhile we are finishing the DirectDraw image preview - had it running for 2hours with no memory leaks or crashes! I will be getting the microATX board CPU and dual highspeed disks back next week along with an updated CineLink.. we still have the 3300rgb so I should have no problems running lots of tests next week with the new card and the hardware our programmer is sending back to me. Our to-do list still includes a high-quality bayer filter and Quicktime output along with some other basics like RGB balence zebra display and some UI updates ...at this point we have full control of the camera, A good preview that does not tax the CPU as much and RAW image save

once I start shooting I will post LOts and LoTS of images

Obin Olson · January 28th, 2005, 02:10 PM

Have 64bit card in my hand! this has been a LONG wait!

They tell me I have the worlds first production CL2 64bit Epix card...whooohoooo guess if I hang onto it for a few years it's value will go up?? LOL

Kyle Edwards · January 28th, 2005, 02:57 PM

Can't wait for some test footage/images.

Eric Gorski · January 28th, 2005, 02:58 PM

praise the lord!!

Steve Nordhauser · January 28th, 2005, 04:55 PM

and pass the potatoes.

I'm glad it finally got released. Congrats on the new arrival.
Steve

Gary McClurg · January 28th, 2005, 06:24 PM

Obin,

I don't want to re-read through 159 pages. I might have missed this are you still using the old Russian 16mm camera body?

Juan M. M. Fiebelkorn · January 28th, 2005, 06:30 PM

GREAT, GREAT,GREAT!!!
This shows how much someone with good decision making can influence the whole thing!
WELL DONE OBIN OLSON!!!!!!!
(you are the king of the new High Definition wave)

Obin Olson · January 28th, 2005, 06:50 PM

you guys are too cool ;)

no 16mm camera body..we will have our own design....

Juan M. M. Fiebelkorn · January 28th, 2005, 07:45 PM

No ideas yet on an estimate final pricing?

Obin Olson · January 28th, 2005, 08:02 PM

Not yet! wait and see how things progress next week with tests

Gary McClurg · January 31st, 2005, 03:03 PM

Could I use Arri 35mm lens on your camera? Or will you have an option so that you could mount different lens on the camera?

Obin Olson · February 1st, 2005, 07:34 PM

should have the mother board, Dothan 2ghz cpu and high-speed disks back from our programmer in a day or 2..then we can start shooting and testing!!!

I am taking a 3 day vacation at Sugar Mountain in NC for some snow boarding...it's hard to type right now after a full day of fun and total exhaustion on the mountain..conditions are great with a 35inch bed of snow that came down over the weekend..:)

I will be back Feb 3rd, my brother will be around the office till then working with the camera/system if it gets in from ups before I am back..

IS ANYONE ON THE LIST READY TO STOP THE THUMB SUCKING AND GET SOME REAL TESTS GOING!!!!!!!!

LOL

David Farland · February 1st, 2005, 08:51 PM

Saw your system and thought you might take it in the field, so you may require a battery source.
Lithium-ion batteries are what you should be looking at.
One supplier I found was Ocean-Server at: http://www.ocean-server.com/index.html

They build a range of systems from 95 to 6000 watts using their Lithium-Ion batteries.
The Li-ion batteries are 95 watt/hr batteries costing $170 and weighing 1.4lbs /.6kg.
Each 4 or 8 batteries requires a battery controller, i.e. BB-04; MP-04 or MP-08
The battery controllers feed a DC/DC converter (atx voltage output), i.e. DC-023

The Ocean-Server solutions of interest are:
Solution 1:
4 batteries / BB-04 / DC-023 which gives 177W /12A output @ 2 hours.
Weight: 7 lbs/3kg
Cost = $1K

Solution 2:
6 battery / MP-04 /DC-023 x2 which gives 314W /16A output @ 2hours
Weight : 12lbs/5kg.
Cost = $2K

See link for pretty pictures: http://www.ocean-server.com/download/controller19.pdf

This link, http://www.ocean-server.com/download.html (FAQ's) discusses system drain of various mini-itx, atx systems. It also looks at power consumption of SFF boards.
1) PC104 VIA C3 design, 512MB memory, 2.5" disk drive, running Windows-Pro.
Total power consumption is 14Watts (idle.)
2) VIA EIPA M10000 (1GHz), 2.5" disk, 512MB memory,
Total power consumption is 35Watts with LCD monitor (idle).
3) Intel 845 @ 1.8Ghz motherboard is 53 Watts

There are other cheaper systems but Ocean-Server fits the bill except for external housing.
You could build your own using Li-ion F cells (18650) and your own protection, monitoring, load balance circuitry but it’ll require a lot of playing around.

Thank you,
David Farland

Joshua Starnes · February 1st, 2005, 09:45 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Obin Olson : IS ANYONE ON THE LIST READY TO STOP THE THUMB SUCKING AND GET SOME REAL TESTS GOING!!!!!!!!

LOL -->>>

I'm ready right this second.

January 28th, 2005, 04:55 PM	#2406
Steve Nordhauser Silicon Imaging, Inc. Join Date: May 2004 Location: Troy, NY USA Posts: 325	and pass the potatoes. I'm glad it finally got released. Congrats on the new arrival. Steve __________________ Silicon Imaging, Inc. We see the Light! http://www.siliconimaging.com

January 27th, 2005, 05:26 PM	#2401
Dan Diaconu Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 804	I am ready for HD: http://dandiaconu.com/gallery/ALL-CL...MGA0174?full=1 is HD ready for me?

January 28th, 2005, 08:55 AM	#2402
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	Ok so I should have the 64bit card TODAY! meanwhile we are finishing the DirectDraw image preview - had it running for 2hours with no memory leaks or crashes! I will be getting the microATX board CPU and dual highspeed disks back next week along with an updated CineLink.. we still have the 3300rgb so I should have no problems running lots of tests next week with the new card and the hardware our programmer is sending back to me. Our to-do list still includes a high-quality bayer filter and Quicktime output along with some other basics like RGB balence zebra display and some UI updates ...at this point we have full control of the camera, A good preview that does not tax the CPU as much and RAW image save once I start shooting I will post LOts and LoTS of images

January 28th, 2005, 02:10 PM	#2403
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	Have 64bit card in my hand! this has been a LONG wait! They tell me I have the worlds first production CL2 64bit Epix card...whooohoooo guess if I hang onto it for a few years it's value will go up?? LOL

January 28th, 2005, 02:57 PM	#2404
Kyle Edwards Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: LI, NY Posts: 274	Can't wait for some test footage/images.

January 28th, 2005, 02:58 PM	#2405
Eric Gorski Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Western Oregon Posts: 138	praise the lord!!

January 28th, 2005, 06:24 PM	#2407
Gary McClurg Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Springfield, MO, USA Posts: 389	Obin, I don't want to re-read through 159 pages. I might have missed this are you still using the old Russian 16mm camera body?

January 28th, 2005, 06:30 PM	#2408
Juan M. M. Fiebelkorn Major Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Buenos Aires , Argentina Posts: 444	GREAT, GREAT,GREAT!!! This shows how much someone with good decision making can influence the whole thing! WELL DONE OBIN OLSON!!!!!!! (you are the king of the new High Definition wave)

January 28th, 2005, 06:50 PM	#2409
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	you guys are too cool ;) no 16mm camera body..we will have our own design....

January 28th, 2005, 07:45 PM	#2410
Juan M. M. Fiebelkorn Major Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Buenos Aires , Argentina Posts: 444	No ideas yet on an estimate final pricing?

January 28th, 2005, 08:02 PM	#2411
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	Not yet! wait and see how things progress next week with tests

January 31st, 2005, 03:03 PM	#2412
Gary McClurg Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Springfield, MO, USA Posts: 389	Could I use Arri 35mm lens on your camera? Or will you have an option so that you could mount different lens on the camera?

February 1st, 2005, 07:34 PM	#2413
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	should have the mother board, Dothan 2ghz cpu and high-speed disks back from our programmer in a day or 2..then we can start shooting and testing!!! I am taking a 3 day vacation at Sugar Mountain in NC for some snow boarding...it's hard to type right now after a full day of fun and total exhaustion on the mountain..conditions are great with a 35inch bed of snow that came down over the weekend..:) I will be back Feb 3rd, my brother will be around the office till then working with the camera/system if it gets in from ups before I am back.. IS ANYONE ON THE LIST READY TO STOP THE THUMB SUCKING AND GET SOME REAL TESTS GOING!!!!!!!! LOL

February 1st, 2005, 08:51 PM	#2414
David Farland Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 32	Saw your system and thought you might take it in the field, so you may require a battery source. Lithium-ion batteries are what you should be looking at. One supplier I found was Ocean-Server at: http://www.ocean-server.com/index.html They build a range of systems from 95 to 6000 watts using their Lithium-Ion batteries. The Li-ion batteries are 95 watt/hr batteries costing $170 and weighing 1.4lbs /.6kg. Each 4 or 8 batteries requires a battery controller, i.e. BB-04; MP-04 or MP-08 The battery controllers feed a DC/DC converter (atx voltage output), i.e. DC-023 The Ocean-Server solutions of interest are: Solution 1: 4 batteries / BB-04 / DC-023 which gives 177W /12A output @ 2 hours. Weight: 7 lbs/3kg Cost = $1K Solution 2: 6 battery / MP-04 /DC-023 x2 which gives 314W /16A output @ 2hours Weight : 12lbs/5kg. Cost = $2K See link for pretty pictures: http://www.ocean-server.com/download/controller19.pdf This link, http://www.ocean-server.com/download.html (FAQ's) discusses system drain of various mini-itx, atx systems. It also looks at power consumption of SFF boards. 1) PC104 VIA C3 design, 512MB memory, 2.5" disk drive, running Windows-Pro. Total power consumption is 14Watts (idle.) 2) VIA EIPA M10000 (1GHz), 2.5" disk, 512MB memory, Total power consumption is 35Watts with LCD monitor (idle). 3) Intel 845 @ 1.8Ghz motherboard is 53 Watts There are other cheaper systems but Ocean-Server fits the bill except for external housing. You could build your own using Li-ion F cells (18650) and your own protection, monitoring, load balance circuitry but it’ll require a lot of playing around. Thank you, David Farland

February 1st, 2005, 09:45 PM	#2415
Joshua Starnes Major Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 356	<<<-- Originally posted by Obin Olson : IS ANYONE ON THE LIST READY TO STOP THE THUMB SUCKING AND GET SOME REAL TESTS GOING!!!!!!!! LOL -->>> I'm ready right this second.