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Pete Bauer June 12th, 2006 05:50 AM

Webb, are you seeing the artifact within PPro or in rendered WMV using Windows Media Player? Last I knew, WMP doesn't handle 24pa properly. If the problem actually shows up within PPro, I'm not sure what's going on.

Dan Burnap June 12th, 2006 08:09 AM

Losing Quality
 
OK, I have a 17 minute edit in Premiere Pro, incorporated in this is an After Effects composition inbetween footage clips. The AE composition was exported from AE as an AVI lossless, best settings. The AE comp is basically an photo montage with camera pans etc.

I have exported the movie from PPro is a 'maintain data rate' no compression AVI.

Then I imported this into Encore which auto transcoded it at 8.6 one-pass.

There is no other stuff on the final DVD.

WHen I play the DVD the quality of the movie (mainly the part with the AE composition) looks far from pin sharp, it's passable but not wonderful.

Is the way I am producing this DVD sufficient to get the best quality possible?

Thanks

Webb Pickersgill June 12th, 2006 09:26 AM

Hi Pete. It's showing up on the PPro2 timeline.

Webb Pickersgill June 12th, 2006 09:05 PM

Update. This is fixed. I dont' know the source of the issue, but I figured out a work-around at least:

- Open After Effects and import the footage.
- Default interpretation is 24p Advanced with WWWSW Pulldown.
- Change to WWSWW Pulldown
- Re-render the clip

When I imported my "tweaked" clip into PPro, the problem is now fixed. I have NO idea why the original clip had the problem, and it would be helpful if anyone here knew the source of the problem... but in the meantime I have a workaround.

K. Tessman June 13th, 2006 12:29 AM

Timecode with capture and scene detection
 
I've been trying to find some definitive documentation about what happens to timecode on tape when one captures an entire tape.

Our camera (GY-HD100) is generating free-run timecode set to time-of-day.

When I capture an entire tape into Premiere, however, using scene detection, the individual clips do not seem to preserve the time code from tape. That is, while the TC looks fine on the camera/VTR display during playback, the batch list, when exported, looks something like:

Tape 15 00;00;00;01 00;00;02;26 tape_15 24.avi
Tape 15 00;00;00;01 00;00;50;11 tape_15 03.avi
Tape 15 00;00;00;01 00;01;13;28 tape_15 45.avi
Tape 15 00;00;00;01 00;03;22;17 tape_15 32.avi
...

(and in that apparently random order, too).

Testing by renaming the last clip from the tape (so it goes offline) and trying to recapture it results in Premiere rewinding the entire tape to the beginning, and beginning to capture from the beginning.

Am I missing something obvious? Is there no way to have a captured clip reflect the TC from the tape?

For what it's worth, this is a Cineform 720/24p project.

Matthew Weitz June 14th, 2006 09:01 AM

Audio levels too low
 
The audio levels that my microphone recorded at are too low. In my project I used the audio workspace in Premiere Pro 1.5 to up the dB as high as it can go, but it's still too low.

Are there any other tricks or tips that I can do?

Thanks.

Chris Barcellos June 14th, 2006 09:06 AM

Render the track as an audio file, take it into another sound editing program (Acid, SoundForge, etc.) and further adjust the levels, and then drop it on the time line. You might even try the same thing in Premiere Pro.

Question: Is the problem in the playback on you system, or the track itself. In other words does it persist in renders to DVD, etc. If not, its just a playback volume problem.

Christopher Lefchik June 14th, 2006 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew Weitz
The audio levels that my microphone recorded at are too low. In my project I used the audio workspace in Premiere Pro 1.5 to up the dB as high as it can go, but it's still too low.

Are there any other tricks or tips that I can do?

Right click on your audio track in the Timeline and choose Clip Gain. You can then adjust the gain of the audio clip and further increase its volume.

James Huenergardt June 14th, 2006 12:11 PM

Play from timeline moves head to end of sequence...
 
Hi there,

This is becoming quite frustrating as I have to restart Premiere Pro 2.0 whenever this happens.

For some reason, if I press the spacebar to play OR use the play VCR button, the play head jumps to the end of the timeline/sequence.

I tried just reopening the project, but it didn't work.

EDITED:
Ok, I did some more testing and it appears to only do this on Cineform projects that have clips that need rendering. Very strange indeed.

Is there some setting I'm not aware of?

Thanks,

Jim

Ervin Farkas June 14th, 2006 01:46 PM

No problem at all, a 4200 rpm hard drive in your laptop will work just fine. I own a 3 year old Vaio laptop and the hard is indeed only 4200 rpm - much to my dissapointment... I wasn't really into DV when I bought it, so I wasn't really looking for a faster hard drive at that time. I have also tested laptops with external (USB) 4200 rpm hard drives and they work without problems.

A word of caution: it is mostly not your hard drive or any other component but your software that can cause problems - a $300 1 GHz/512 RAM used IBM thinkpad with a $20 PCMCIA FireWire card will do it as long as the hard drive is large enough. I would recommend reformatting the hard and installing only Premiere if possible. It'll work like a charm!

George Odell June 14th, 2006 02:15 PM

Hey, Thanks Ervin!

I'm way into "used" so that will work just dandy for me. Will probably look for something with firewire built in. I'll need that card slot for Wifi.

George

George Odell June 14th, 2006 02:19 PM

Try this.

Add some additional audio tracks to the project. Then, copy and paste your existing audio one, two or three more times. Eventually you will have more than enough audio to max out on the meters. Just watch that you do not peak out or the dreaded distortion monster will rear its ugly head. Stay just under -6db or so.

Jeff Klein June 15th, 2006 03:22 PM

Premiere audio and video not linking
 
Hi all,
Weird problem I can't figure out with Adobe Premiere 6.0. Lately when I drag video files from the Project window to the Timeline window, the audio and video are not linked. It's like the "Unlink Audio and Video" function is automatic now (usually you have to right-click on the clip and do this once it's in the Timeline).

Is there a setting somewhere that I must have inadvertently enabled/disabled? I can't even get the link/unlink tool to work without having the icon pressed (works while the icon is pressed in the Timeline window, but when I go back to the regular "arrow" icon, they're unlinked again).

Thanks for any help,
Jeff K.

Chris Barcellos June 15th, 2006 03:58 PM

Jeff:

I haven't used 6 in a while, and my brain has lost it back there somewhere, but I seem to recall an icon at the bottom of the time line that turned link on and off. If I recall, it is located in the same area where there is a control to expand and contract the time line. You got me curious if my recollection is right now. Let me know...

Jeff Klein June 15th, 2006 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Barcellos
Jeff:
I haven't used 6 in a while, and my brain has lost it back there somewhere, but I seem to recall an icon at the bottom of the time line that turned link on and off.

THAT'S IT! It was the Toggle Sync Mode icon, the last one on the right before the scroll arrow. If it was a snake, it'd a-bit me....

Your brain's still got it, thanks!

Jeff K.

Devon Lyon June 15th, 2006 04:37 PM

PPro 2.0 16:9 footage in 4:3 timeline
 
I shoot in 16:9 but for cable and broadcast I need to submit the project in 4:3. If I capture the 16:9 footage properly and then import into a PPro 2.0 4:3 project, is there anything wrong with simply scaling the 16:9 down in the 4:3 project? I like how it looks but want to make sure I'm not missing some sort of technical problem with scaling down the footage.
Thanks.

Chris Barcellos June 15th, 2006 05:13 PM

Yahoo, as the scarecrow int "The Wizard of OZ" said, "I have a brain..."

Herman Chen June 15th, 2006 06:59 PM

rendering problem
 
I have a project in Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 that is roughly 20-23 minutes long and when I try to render, it gives me this error message that's something like "Disk Full" even though there is, without a doubt, enough space to hold it. It also gives me a similar error when I render it with After Effects. Anyone have any ideas what the problem could be?

EDIT: fixed. i just tried again using a diff. HD and it worked.

Christopher Lefchik June 15th, 2006 09:41 PM

If you want to submit your 16:9 footage letterboxed in the 4:3 aspect ratio, then no, there's no problem I'm aware of in using the method you described.

Christopher Lefchik June 15th, 2006 09:59 PM

That appears to be a generic error message Premiere throws out when it can't figure out what went wrong. Don't know why the programmers couldn't just have programmed Premiere to simply throw up its arms and admit, "Something went wrong, and I have no idea what it is."

Never seen it happen in After Effects, though. Well, at least we know the two programs behave the same in this aspect. Not that it helps us any. ;-)

Tim Johnson June 16th, 2006 10:47 AM

This is actually probably due to virtual memory (known as a page file). When there is not enoth RAM to store the data needed, it is written onto the harddrive and read etc etc. The HD you were using probably stored the page file, hence why it worked on another hd.

Bruce Pelley June 18th, 2006 08:55 AM

Adobe's MPEG Encoder for Prem 6.5....Help!!
 
For right now I'm using version 6.5 which came with Adobe MPEG Encoder version 1.1.Downloaded version 1.2 and 1.3 beta updates (free public version) from Main Concept website.It is critical that I be quickly educated as to what you'd reccomended what the exact settings would be best for my particular situation.Yes,there are the presets,however perhaps the advanced section would be more precise and beneficial.The average length of the program I will be producing is around 45 minutes or so.Using single sided dvd-r's.My burner is a Lite On combo with up to 16x.

First a couple of questions.

1)How do I know if the resulting encoded file will fit the dvd disc?If it's too long,it will not be usuable.I don't want to waste time and guess as time is in short supply.

2)How does the built-in/upgraded Adobe/Main Concept MPEG Encoder/V1.2 differ from Main Concepts stand alone application for Premiere 6.5?Is it worth another $60 and what are the benefits as compared to the built-on program?Pros and cons of either solution are...?

3)Based on you experience & the above,what's the ideal combination of export and encoding settings?

Now for the fine detail.........Advanced setting choices:Please help fill in the blanks,thanks!!

Basic tab/page:

I)Video type:MPEG-1,MPEG-2 or DVD?
II)Encoder:Is 50 the best quality,0 the worst??
III)Bitrate/kbps=??

Video Settings:

I)Bitrate type.. variable or constant?
II)If variable:Max,Avg and Min in kbps..what figures please?
III)If constant:
a)Bit rate/kbps and
b)Rate control mode: Should I select... Fast,Mode 1 or Mode 128?
c)Constant quality?

Audio:

a)Rate is 48k?
b)Type (PCM,MPEG-1 or MPEG-2)
c)Reccomended audio bitrate =xxx

Multiplexing:on or off?What does this do?

Closest presets:Actually I think your tips would improve on these and refine them..

a)DVD 4x3 medium bitrate and
b)DVD 4x3 high bitrate.

Anybody tried the Main Concepts public version version 1.3 beta?Comments?

OK,that's plenty for now.Please patiently bear with me as I navigate through this!

Thanks...all advice,opinion and suggestions offered would be most welcome.

Bruce

Christopher Lefchik June 18th, 2006 01:43 PM

Final Matrox Premiere Pro 2.0 X.tools released
 
Matrox has released the final version of the Premiere Pro 2.0 RT.X100 driver.

Quote:

Matrox X.tools build 6157 for use with Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 NEW
(June 15, 2006, 255 MB)

This release of Matrox X.tools provides support for Adobe Production Studio, and requires Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 (it does not support earlier releases of Adobe Premiere Pro).

All features available with the previous release of Matrox X.tools are supported with this new release, with the exception of full WYSIWYG support for Adobe Encore DVD 2.0. WYSIWYG support is provided, however, for previewing when using Adobe Premiere Pro's Export to DVD feature. WYSIWYG is also supported for Adobe Bridge.
Get it here: Matrox RT.X100 Software updates

Mike Wade June 19th, 2006 10:46 AM

Project files have disappeared, help !
 
I have just opened up a Premiere project and all the avi files have disappeared from the timeline and Project window. Premiere has not asked me where they are and there are no red offline replacement inserts. All that is left on the timeline are the transitions, black and colour matte clips and a commentary file all in their correct positions. I have tried this forum's Search engine but no luck there.
So what to do ? Is recovery possible ?

Premiere 6.5/RaptorRT2

Jeff Hendricks June 19th, 2006 10:18 PM

Audio Problem
 
Hi folks,

I wrote a similar post over in the wedding/event area.

I am getting no sound from a file recorded form an iRiver but the waveform shows that sound is present. The weird thing is that I had sound up untill today.

This is only occuring with audio recorded through the mic on the iRiver files.

Any suggestion of how to fix this?

The files that I have on the timeline containing the sound from when it did work still play. weird....

Thanks,

Jeff

Mike Wade June 20th, 2006 12:28 AM

The missing avi files are still on one of the hard drives. The few clips still on the timeline are on different drives.

Ken Lamug June 20th, 2006 11:28 PM

blurring logo on a moving object
 
do you guys have any suggestions for blurring a logo on a moving object for example a beer bottle or a clear glass with a logo on it? thanks.

Henry Cho June 21st, 2006 01:04 AM

you're entering after effects territory here. this is a relatively simple task with after effects' motion tracking tools. unfortunately, premiere, by itself, doesn't have the tools to do this.

in after effects, just keep in mind you can't apply motion tracking to a mask. first, duplicate your footage. the duplicate layer will be the one we will apply the mask to. you will have to create a solid layer with a mask the size of the area you want to blur. apply motion tracking to that layer, using your original footage layer as the guide. then use the masked, motion-tracked solid layer as a track matte on the duplicated beer footage. feather the mask on the solid layer, and apply a gaussian blur on the duplicate footage, and voila, you have a blurred out logo with soft edges that follows the bottle.

if you're limited to only using premiere, you will have to do this frame by frame. depending on the length of the shot, this may or may not be feasible for you.

Milosz Krzyzaniak June 21st, 2006 03:24 AM

Smart deinterlace plugin
 
Hello.

I have a problem choosing a deinterlacing plugin.

I would like it to give output that would have got:
1) artifact-free image
2) smooth motion

Now. Some plugins, like Magic Bullet, take only one field of an image and interpolate it. This gives some choppy motion as only one portion of movement is used.

FieldsKit lets me mix two fields, which gives better motion as they represent whole of the motion information out of two fields. But, as this is just mixing two fields together, sometimes (fast motion, contrasty objects) one is able to distinguish those two separate field parts in the image, the image indeed looks as a superposition of two separate ones that are just time-shifted a bit.

Now, is there any plugin that would let me interpolate two fields, mix them down, but also add some motion blur between them to give smooth look of motion?

Milosz Krzyzaniak June 21st, 2006 09:28 AM

Impressive question. And I just have thought that nothing was going to shock me.

Well, to my knowledge, in Premiere, editing directly on field basis, as in other NLE apps, is not possible.

May you just clarify, what particular reason is that you want to edit sub-frame? What effect do you want to achieve?

Now, one trick or workaround that comes to my mind is to create a special mask (a BMP consisting of white and black horizontal lines) for use within premiere to aquire only lower field of an image. Then mask the last frame of a first clip, and overlap it over the first frame of a second sequence. That will create a trick frame in the trim point consisting of a lower field of the last frame of the first clip and an upper field of the first frame of the second clip (I assume you edit in PAL). I think that would work and could solve your problem.

If you want further instructions, just write.

Regards from Poland,
mk

Steven Gotz June 21st, 2006 12:32 PM

I believe that After Effects can separate the fields for you. But not Premiere Pro.

Steven Gotz June 21st, 2006 12:37 PM

You will find that if you put the blur over the image at the beginning and set the keyframe, then move it to the last frame and reset the location of the blur, the in between frames should be pretty close. Just adjust along the way as necessary.

I would just place a copy of the clip over the original and use a garbage matte on the upper clip. Then blur the second clip. You can animate the garbage matte quite easily.

Frank Hool June 23rd, 2006 06:13 AM

strange workaround in PPro 1.5 while using proxies
 
Just wanted to report that i found workaround for one problem which is bugged me whole ppro 1.5 existence history:

system specs:
hardware - ibm thinkpad T23, 866MHz PIII, 256MB, S3 SuperSavage/IXC 1014.
software - Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5, Windows XP Pro, divx 3.11alpha, XviD 1.1.0-30122005.

task description:
i use in my laptop proxy videofiles to make first step edition there later i copy created project file to desktop and replace proxies with original DV footage. Proxies are 2 times reduced dimensions and compressed with divx3.11alpha. My project is started as DV-PAL.

problem decription:
everthing works fine until i watch footage from left monitor. But if i put some clips to the timeline and try now watch it from right window(timeline monitor) then monitor shows it very flickery. Some seconds it works fine then monitor turns black only some pixels jitter on belowest line. It is dependent of source footage(like video files had some errors in it) - artifacts appear always in same moments in certain file.

solution:
as far my footage was 2 times reduced dimensions i saw image window somwhere in the center of monitors black area. So changed clip position value by one: 361(originally was 360) x 288. All other value combinations worked fine as well but never original.

Ben Freedman June 23rd, 2006 11:45 PM

HDV to SD - Which is better?
 
Howdy...

If I have some HDV and I want to deliver on SD, is it better to:

1) Capture HDV, place in SD project to edit, then export

or

2) Capture HDV, edit in HDV project, export to SD settings?

Thoughts?

Best,

Benjamin


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Richie Cruz June 26th, 2006 05:49 AM

Audio in Premier
 
Hello All,

Is there a way in premier to adjust the audio so to somewhat hide that supper loud vibrating sound when you record something that was to loud for the Mic. I recorded a dance show and the camera was so close to the speakers that the sound did not come out clear because of it.. I know I can't get rid of it but can I hide a little of it..

Pete Bauer June 26th, 2006 06:01 AM

Sounds - pun intended - like you're referring to audio clipping. Analogous to the clipping seen in overexposed digital video, detail is permanently lost because the recorded data remains at the maximum recordable value, rather than varying. I'm not aware of much that can be done within PPro. Adobe Audition has a feature called Clip Restoration that "rounds off the tops" of clipped audio; it isn't magic but with a little experimentation it can usually improve mild to moderate clipping enough to make it useable. I'd assume the major competing audio programs have similar functions.

Ryan Mellish June 26th, 2006 05:39 PM

Photo panning and zooming in Premiere 2.0
 
How would I create a pan and zoom effect for a photo slideshow in premiere pro 2.0?

Chris Barcellos June 26th, 2006 05:55 PM

Click on the clip on the time line. Look in the effects Window. Select motion. Controls are there for all forms of motion, including zooming and panning.

Ryan Mellish June 26th, 2006 06:01 PM

Ok, I always saw the motion bit, but just now realized you click and drag. Doi.

Chris Harris June 28th, 2006 02:17 AM

The final output would be the same, theoretically. However, editing in HDV would give you the option to export to HD in the future, should you ever want to. I also think the CPU load would be the same, as no matter what you'd be dealing with HDV footage. So, with that said, I believe it's up to you. Hope I could be of some help.


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