What power supply are you using Bo?

I'll beat Bo on this, I've got Antec Earthwatts 500; I thought it will not be enough but it's running smooth and stable.
A note about noise/heat. the GPU runs at 80c most of the time, and the fan noise doesn't really become audible until 56%, anything below this setting it's quiet.

Yeah all the reports say a min of 550w and 38amps on the 12volt line

Keep in mind that is the minimum requirement. If you are running a bunch of other devices, multiple HDs or optical drives, they all draw power. I personally went with a 900watt power supply to be safe.

550W PSU is sufficient if you do not install hard disks, DVD/BR burner and use only one stick of memory and do not overclock your system, do not use USB ports, etc., and do not plan to use it longer than one year.

If that is not the case do not consider anything below 750 W.

Look here, and calculate with a 100% load and 30% capacitor aging, then add around 15% to the estimated wattage: eXtreme Outer Vision - eXtreme tools for computer enthusiasts

I am in the process of building a new dual boot box (Mac + Windows) -w- a GTX 285 and I went with a 1200 watt BFG power supply.

I have an 1000 watt corsair with mountable power cables. I made it a kind of standard in my computers as I often put a lot of cards, fans and harddrives in it too. Dont want to go down on the power side as it is not expensive. Again Thanks Adobe.....

Martin, I can confirm at least the GTX280 rocks and rolls with this hack. Just playing with the CS5 trial version and I'm sold!

Hackintosh
 

It works on my hackintosh with GTX 275 1792 MB ram. I did the same way windows users did.

perfectly working with my good old GTX260 (192sp, 896MB memory). i was even able to flawlessly edit xdcam video in fullhd on dual core cpu. had to upgrade to quad anyways. damned AVCHD...
OT: is anyone else having trouble playing same AVCHD clip in two layers above, top resized to be smaller? it works fine if its two different clips, if the same clips are in the same position, but once you move the so they are not in sync, it wont play more than few frames, cpu load is not reaching 100% by far. hope its just a bug

Although I can't benefit as my nVidia card doesn't have the required RAM, something very odd happens with CS5. AVCHD plays without stuttering, but parts of the picture jump. Really weird. One clip today was a lighthouse, on a blue sky with white clouds. The lighthouse was stable, yet the clouds jigged up and down - downloading the latest drivers didn't help. Works fine on SD material. The jiggling is also evident when coming out to a DV device linked to a monitor. Very strange.

I was looking at the gts 250 as its cheap as chips but am wondering, given MPE uses the CUDA cores, is the fact that the 250 only has 128 a limiting factor? Cuda core count goes something like:

9800 GTX: 128

220: 48
240: 96
250: 128
260: 192
275: 240
280: 240
285: 240
295: 480 (240 per GPU as its a dual GPU card so I would assume adobe wont us both)

470: 448
480: 480

No offense to Randy but his system probably isnt the best measure to dismiss the 250, given the weird readings he is getting trying to find his card.

Would be interested if someone could throw some red footage on the time line and see how the different cards handle that with a few effects?

Otherwise it would seem that the 260 is the best bang for the buck as its half the price of the 285 and from all reports handles most anything you throw at it.

EDIT:

Found this link and a few others on google and it appears the 250 with 1gb memory can indeed work very well once you modify the list of cards

http://forums.adobe.com/message/2802886?tstart=0

So given the 250 is almost half the price again of the 260 - might be the way to go for now?

OK, just wondering... has anyone tried this "hack" on a mobile workstaton (laptop) with a cuda-capable mobile card? I'm looking at acquiring a mobile system with a Quadro FX 1800M video card. It has 1GB of memory and according to nVidia it has 72 CUDA cores. Would love to see a CS5 mobile platform with the MPE!

First of all, thanks so much for finding that out. Kudos to you! Unfortunately, I don´t really get what exactly the purpose is for step 6. Regarding step 5 => PP CS3 exists already in that menu and it doesn´t change when I pick the CS5.exe. It sticks to CS3. Why we have to change the settings of the Nvidia graphic card from ""multiple display performance mode" to ""compatibilty performance mode"? I had a system crash as I pushed the export button (not the queue button) and now I´m wondering if this problem has possibly something to do with these changes? Furthermore, after a while of working all of a sudden the audio transitions disappeared. Now I´ve set it back to ""multi-display/mixed-GPU acceleration" and until now I haven´t got any further problems. Could there be any relationship?

So, I would appreciate it if someone can explain these two different settings a bit more in detail...

Vista 64bit
GTX275

You may need to uninstall CS3 in order to enable CS5. I had the same problem with CS4 and CS5 and could not remove the existing profile and adding CS5 did not work, because it has the same file name.

An alternative is to get nHancer - Advanced Control Panel for nVidia Cards which allows you to identify the path to a file, so you can have both CS3 and CS5 in your profiles.

Thanks Harm. I gave it a go. Hopefully, I did everything right. But this question remains to be answered:
"Why we have to change the settings of the Nvidia graphic card from ""multiple display performance mode" to ""compatibilty performance mode"? " Thanks in advance...

Actually I don't know, but keep in mind that the multi display performance mode only applies to OpenGl, not to Direct3D. BTW, I have this on globally and have not yet encountered any problems.

The GTS 250 works fine - I just followed the steps in this topic and it's running fine.

Gt 240
 

The GT 240 (Zotac zone silent + Q8400 - 8gig ram) works oké.
Using my AVCHD files: no more rendering of cross-dissolves, titles etc.
With an extra AVCHD layer on top my cpu's go to 100%.
But the normal routine edits 60-80%. Using 5D2 testfiles was to much.

No more rendering is more creative freedom.

Let's try this....no it takes to long.

Now it's ...give it a shot


Rob

Has anyone confirmed that there is an advantage to having a Fermi 480 card versus a GTX 260-285 card? I know there are more cores so it "should" be more capable. However, if the Mercury PLayback Engine is programmed to only utilize certain features of a non Quadro card, is there any benefit to the 480?

I need to order a new card in the next 24 hours and I am on the fence. I do not want to order a 480 if a 260 will do the same job. I am only interested in how it speeds up MPE in CS5.....don't care a lot about games and such.

Thanks.

I can now confirm that the 470 works great with the MPE. At $350, this card is worth every penny!

Ben

I am sure it works great....but do you have any idea if it works better than a 285? I am trying to decide if the 470/480 is worth the extra money. Like I already said, it appears on the surface that double the cores would mean double the perfomance.....any chance this is accurate? I have had a good experience so far with the 260 and I need to upgrade a second computer and I just want to know if the 480 if far superior to the 260....otherwise I'll just get another 260 for now.

I think the GTX 285 is being discontinued, Not many left in stock any where. Sorry I can't campare the 470 to the 260 as I came from an 8800 card. Thats a tough call though with the $150 price difference. The 260 may work just as well. Maybe someone else can chime in that has used both cards.

Harm and I have run a beta PPBM CS5 and myH264 test was faster than his and my MPEG2 test was only a little slower than his. Harm has an i7 overclocked to 3.8GHz and a GTX 480. I have an i7 920 at stock clock and a 9800GT 1GB (112 cores).

Prior to the 9800GT, I tried a GTX 275, and it was definitely faster in encoding times. I ran my own test of 3 avchd layers and the 9800GT encoded it in 13mins and 275 was 8mins 40s.

EDIT: my 9800GT encode actually took 15mins

How do I do this on a Mac?
 

Anybody know how to do this hack on a Mac? Thanks.

yes, but it won't do you any good because the 3 mac cards that will work for CUDA - 285, 3800 4800 5800 are already on the list. is there another nV card that works in a mac NOT on that list ?

In case anyone missed the Ppro 5.0.1 update post - apparently this increases the number of tracks you can use with the MPE above the prior cap of 3. This is FANTASTIC news and now gives you the option of choosing a far more affordable GPU to get the same work flow as a Quadro.

Did I mention before that I have a LOT of love for Adobe right now?

Just finish bulding my CS-5 Workstation
 

Dual Opteron 2300 CPUs, 2.6 GHz, 12 cores total, 3 TB drive space (2 x 1.5 TB), 8 GB RAM (128 GB max) and a PNY GTX 470. Using a SuperMicro mobo with SATA and SAS RAID capabilities.

Thanks to everyone who posted on this thread for making this easier. (Particularly the advice on how to overwrite the CUDA supported carts text file.) I'm adding the Neo4k Cineform codecs and will report how (hopefully) well everything is working.

Thanks again.

Adobe has become a GREAT company, that is listening to its customers, giving speedy updates when needed, for an already fabulously stable release with utter commitment to make this the best release ever.

I have seldom seen such dedication, commitment and communication during the beta and pre-release stages, and continuing for the next point release.

ADOBE has done great and my heartfelt congratulations go out to all team members who have done a tremendous job under heavy duress. The time pressure was great, but they managed it and delivered.

THANK YOU ADOBE.

Hi guys,

I have a I7 940 and a ATI 4890 Card. After I updated to CS5 I have good playback with my HDSLR files but when I enable a second monitor (a plasma TV) for full screen preview everything gets choppy. It's normal I guess.

My question is:

With an Nvidia Card (CUDA enabled) will my second monitor playback (full screen) improve?

Thanks!

Geforce GT 320M 1 gig laptop card now supported
 

i have a hp dv7t laptop with the above listed card. there is now an official nvidia beta driver for it that support cuda 3.0. you must do a nvidia beta driver search to find it. it raised my cpu, and gpu temps 4 or 5 degrees, but in hp suggested power mode temps are still fine. now the gpusniffer approves the card, but you must type a capital M as in 320M when you edit the card txt file. i am up from 3 layers of xdcam ex w/PIP to 5 layers of video w/PIP effects running in real time with yellow bar. i honestly would not need more than that for a laptop project. thanks for posting the hack. i think its brilliant!

Just trying things out:
Upgraded to PP 5.0.1
Upgraded nVidia driver to beta 257.15 for the GTX470

I placed on the same timeline as 3 PIP clips (UL, UR, LR):
- 5DII 1080p30
- 550D 720p50
- HMC150 720p50

Playback on the Mercury hovers around 95% cpu usage, some choppy moments here and there but indicator stays yellow. Software playback is at 100% red timeline immediately.

I brought the GPU/Memory clock all the way down to 405MHz/418MHz (from 607/1674MHz). Playback was not affected not even 1% in terms of CPU usage.

Something tells me, it's either a driver issue, or the MPE is not optimized for the GTX470 yet.

you should still be using the 197.x driver. all I can say is, just take my word on it ! the newer drivers are not blessed for use with CS5 yet

also CUDA / MPE aren't doing anything to decode h264 right now. that is still all on the CPU. less intensive codecs like DVCproHD which is natively supported should yeild more streams... but ya I know who is using DVCproHD anymore !

Completely agree Steve.

To see that the 257.15 driver is buggy, add a Gaussian Blur to a clip and set blurriness to something larger than 5, for instance 15. This behavior can be replicated on different hardware and with different Fermi cards and with different effects.

As I was used with CS4 to convert the native H264 files of the 7D/550D to an intermediate codec like Photo-Jpeg I just gave that a go in pp 5.01. And, sadly, it seems that the MPE doens´t work as well as with the native H264/RED files. Just after I added a second layer with an mpe-accelaterated effect the playback became quite stuttery. So, is it possible that the MPE doesn´t work together with intermediates such as Photo-Jpeg, Cineform HD...? Any thoughts on this?

HP DV7t quad Geforce GT 320M 1 Gig update
 

i posted about a beta driver that supported cs5. i noticed a 4 to 5 degree cpu, and gpu temp increase and after a day decided 3 layers with effects running cool with the old hp driver was preferable to me. i rolled back my driver, but it did not install the latest hp release. so i clicked on update driver in device manager, and it found a driver that is not on the hp site, nor the nvidia beta i was using. temps are normal, and cs5 is supported. this is the driver number: 8.17.12.5715 nvidia driver dated 5/21/2010. i used the top option in the driver search box, not the one that said find a driver on this computer. it seems to work great. i don't know why its not listed on the hp or nvidia site. maybe this will help all the dv7t quad owners that need cuda support.

I use MPE with 5D files converted with Cineform - runs smoothly with several layers.

Thanks Charles - which graphic card do you have? I didn´t try it out with cineform, only with photo-jpeg. Could you do me a favor (or somebody else) and give it a go with that codec? With H264 it works smoothly in rt too, up to 4 layers with accelarated effects. But it doesnt do it with photo-jpeg... weird..

My system:
Quad 2.4
GTX275 with hack
8gigs ram
vista64

Uwe, I have a GTX 260. The system is a Q6600 (quad 2.4), 8 GB, Win 7. It is basically like your system. I don't run photo-jpeg so I can't test that, but I think you already have the answer.

--Edit. The photo-jpeg files will be much bigger than H.264 files so the disk read requirement is quite a bit higher, and goes up proportionally with layers. You might check your disk read speed.