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Marc Brackhahn May 3rd, 2010 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Guitar (Post 1522037)
I figured out how to activate CUDA acceleration without a GTX 285 or Quadro... I'm pretty sure it should work with other 200 GPUs. Note that i'm using 2 monitors and there's a extra tweak to play with CUDA seamlessly with 2 monitors.

Here are the steps:

Step 1. Go to the Premiere CS5 installation folder.
Step 2. Find the file "GPUSniffer.exe" and run it in a command prompt (cmd.exe). You should see something like that:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Device: 00000000001D4208 has video RAM(MB): 896
Device: 00000000001D4208 has video RAM(MB): 896
Vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer string: GeForce GTX 295/PCI/SSE2
Version string: 3.0.0

OpenGL version as determined by Extensionator...
OpenGL Version 2.0
Supports shaders!
Supports BGRA -> BGRA Shader
Supports VUYA Shader -> BGRA
Supports UYVY/YUYV ->BGRA Shader
Supports YUV 4:2:0 -> BGRA Shader
Testing for CUDA support...
Found 2 devices supporting CUDA.
CUDA Device # 0 properties -
CUDA device details:
Name: GeForce GTX 295 Compute capability: 1.3
Total Video Memory: 877MB
CUDA Device # 1 properties -
CUDA device details:
Name: GeForce GTX 295 Compute capability: 1.3
Total Video Memory: 877MB
CUDA Device # 0 not choosen because it did not match the named list of cards
Completed shader test!
Internal return value: 7
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

If you look at the last line it says the CUDA device is not chosen because it's not in the named list of card. That's fine. Let's add it.

Step 3. Find the file: "cuda_supported_cards.txt" and edit it and add your card (take the name from the line: CUDA device details: Name: GeForce GTX 295 Compute capability: 1.3

So in my case the name to add is: GeForce GTX 295

Step 4. Save that file and we're almost ready.

Step 5. Go to your Nvidia Driver control panel (im using the latest 197.45) under "Manage 3D Settings", Click "Add" and browse to your Premiere CS5 install directory and select the executable file: "Adobe Premiere Pro.exe"

Step 6. In the field "multi-display/mixed-GPU acceleration" switch from "multiple display performance mode" to "compatibilty performance mode"

Step 7. That's it. Boot Premiere and go to your project setting / general and activate CUDA

Hope this helps ;)

Do you know how to run a command prompt in windows 7? The box opens and then quickly closes.

Mikael Bergstrom May 3rd, 2010 04:44 PM

David what "I wouldn't use RAID 5 for my editing PC"????

You also get a very good safety if something goes wrong (has occurred several times for me where I could easily just replace the failed disk without losing material)

I and my Colleague have used this raid 5 in 3 years now and it's fast enugh with no problem what so ever!!

This is our last film we made with one such raid system with over 4 hours of material in the bin and timeline.

(in Swedish thought)


David Dwyer May 3rd, 2010 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Johnson (Post 1522837)
good to know, thats not a big upgrade for me. I just dont like putting all my eggs in one basket with a RAID.

Click Windows key and R
type "cmd" without the ""

and then at the prompt type
c:
cd "c:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS5"
GPUSniffer.exe

Randy Johnson May 3rd, 2010 09:03 PM

Wow I converted my footage to DVCpro HD using a free tool from Panasonic. I know it uses lik 4X the space but Wow! thats some performance! VERY smooth.

Heinz Bihlmeir May 4th, 2010 05:05 AM

Using the GPU hack with a GTX 260 works fine in most conditions, but I have a problem when I import HDV material (m2t 1440*1080i) to a Blackmagic 1080i59 8-bit YUV project. The video is downscaled by a factor of 1.33. If I switch to non_GPU mode, the scaling is correct. 1920*1080 footage is OK in GPU and software mode. I don't know if this effect is related to this hack, a decklink driver problem or a general bug.

Marc Brackhahn May 4th, 2010 11:52 AM

Command prompt
 
Please advise, I can not figure out how to get the command prompt thing to work. It keeps telling me "program in not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file." Any advice would be appreciated.

David Dwyer May 4th, 2010 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc Brackhahn (Post 1523153)
Please advise, I can not figure out how to get the command prompt thing to work. It keeps telling me "program in not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file." Any advice would be appreciated.

Marc,

Download and run the the following:

http://www.northern-loop.tv/Video/gpu.cmd

Its just a basic batch file that runs the GPUsniffer in the default CS5 directory.

Hope it helps,

David

Martin Guitar May 4th, 2010 12:05 PM

If you are on windows 7 here are the steps. For XP it's the same but instead of search field it's the RUN menu.

1. Click the Start Menu Button
2. In the search field (Search programs and files) type: cmd
3. You will see a black icon at the very top called "cmd", click on that.
4. Go to your Premiere CS5 installation folder and drag the file "Gpusniffer.exe" into that "cmd" window(Black window with white text in it.)
5. Press enter to run the Gpusniffer program.

Marc Brackhahn May 4th, 2010 01:12 PM

Thanks guys, I think I got it! Although in the playback window it looks like I am getting a 4:3 aspect ratio

Roy Niswanger May 4th, 2010 02:42 PM

Curious, should I even bother trying this with my card?

ASUS ENGT240/DI/1GD3/A GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card

I'm running Win 7 64bit, i5 860, 12Gb DDR3 RAM, single monitor.

Thanks,
Roy

David Dwyer May 4th, 2010 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy Niswanger (Post 1523201)
Curious, should I even bother trying this with my card?

ASUS ENGT240/DI/1GD3/A GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card

I'm running Win 7 64bit, i5 860, 12Gb DDR3 RAM, single monitor.

Thanks,
Roy

Yes give it a go as its only a 2 min to fix. You have 96 Cuda cores in that card, every bit helps!

Marc Brackhahn May 4th, 2010 03:24 PM

David, I assume the fix is to just change the cuda_supported_cards.txt file back and save it. And change the Nvidia field "multi-display/mixed-GPU acceleration back. I wasn't able to get the 3d setting to add Abobe Premiere Pro CS5. Maybe that was the problem. BTW, I have CS4 and I downloaded the trial of CS5 because I am waiting for it to ship from Videoguys.

David Dwyer May 4th, 2010 03:42 PM

Just changing the text file will be enough for a single monitor. Open Pr and switch on MPE and test

Randy Johnson May 4th, 2010 06:52 PM

Do you think we will get faster MPE performance with 1 monitor VS 2?

David Dwyer May 5th, 2010 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Johnson (Post 1523286)
Do you think we will get faster MPE performance with 1 monitor VS 2?

Not sure Randy but I wouldnt of those it would be much difference though.

Has anyone got a GTX 480 to test it with?

Brant Gajda May 5th, 2010 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Dwyer (Post 1523534)
Not sure Randy but I wouldn't of those it would be much difference though.

Has anyone got a GTX 480 to test it with?

David, I just got my EVGA GTX 480 from NewEgg today and installed. First off, it works, but didn't really have a chance to push it to see how far it will go. I dropped on about 5 GPU accelerated effects and time line was still yellow and super smooth playback.

Hopefully after my work day ends, I'll do some more testing with non-accelerated effects.

David Dwyer May 5th, 2010 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brant Gajda (Post 1523546)
David, I just got my EVGA GTX 480 from NewEgg today and installed. First off, it works, but didn't really have a chance to push it to see how far it will go. I dropped on about 5 GPU accelerated effects and time line was still yellow and super smooth playback.

Hopefully after my work day ends, I'll do some more testing with non-accelerated effects.

What were the GPU effects? Thought it was limited to 3 for the GTX models?

If you could do some export times that would be great MPE vs Not

Brant Gajda May 5th, 2010 12:21 PM

Effects were: Gaussian Blur (I believe), Noise (cranked just about all the way up), Fast Color Correction, B&W, Levels (I believe), and one other.

I'll confirm tonight. Also, I'm using Cineform AVI files of my 5D Mark II, so that "might" be why it's still showing yellow.

Randy Johnson May 5th, 2010 12:44 PM

Matrox compress HD
 
Anyone hear about this? It seems with new driver that it aids in time line playback as well as rendering. If thats true it may be better for me VS a new video card.

James Park May 5th, 2010 02:18 PM

Brant, I'm considering getting the 480series since right now it has most CUDA cores (FERMI) and Adobe is planning to officially support 400 series GTX cards later this year. But I've heard that the card runs hot but I'm concerned with the noise level of the card. How loud is it? At idle and at load?

Brant Gajda May 5th, 2010 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Park (Post 1523586)
Brant, I'm considering getting the 480series since right now it has most CUDA cores (FERMI) and Adobe is planning to officially support 400 series GTX cards later this year. But I've heard that the card runs hot but I'm concerned with the noise level of the card. How loud is it? At idle and at load?


It certainly runs hot. I didn't really compare it vs my 260 card. Compared to my 260, it sounds about the same imo. No real db testing to be sure.

Best to have a bigger case with good air flow.

Ezzat El Halabi May 5th, 2010 06:41 PM

GTX470 Inno3D
 
Hi everyone, first post here.
I got the GTX470 last night, installed it replacing my 512MB 9600GTX.

Firstly here is my pc config:
Q8200 @ 2.6GHz
8GB DDR2
2x WD 750GB in Raid 0

Originally on the 9600, playing back a 720p50 clip taken with 550D/T2i would ramp up cpu usage to 100% within 15 seconds of playback, no effects here.
On the GTX470 software renderer, the same would reach 85-90% but never 100%
With Mercury engine turned on the GTX470, I am getting 45-50% cpu usage.

I also tried AVCHD 720p25 taken with HMC150, I didn't notice much difference between the 3 settings, though there was perhaps a 5% reduction in cpu usage (from mid 30's to high 20%'s) when using the GTX470.

I am yet to add any effects. I will report on that later.
Oh and thanks Martin for your tip.

Stephen Weller May 5th, 2010 07:09 PM

HP DV7T Quad laptop w/geforce gt 320m 1 gig
 
First. Wow! this is a brilliant hack. it is interesting to imagine how you figured this out, and really shows some pc problem solving skills to make things work Your Way.
i tried it on the gt 320m laptop card, and as nvidia is treating it like an orphan, not releasing official drivers, the hp driver from 3/10 only supports cuda 2.2. or 2020 as the sniffer reported/stating cuda driver too old. i tried installing cuda 3.0 developer drivers like my mac needed, but installer reported no drivers for this card. there is one modified driver that could support cuda 3, but the only report i heard on it is that it increses cpu temps. i was not able to find a suitable driver, or cuda update that passed the sniffer test. if anyone has a solution, that would be cool. i heard that nvidia may actually release official drivers for the gt 320m in may. the laptop is powerful, and i played 3 layers of ex1 1080 with 2 PIP effects at full resolution with under 50% cpu load yesterday, so am ok. i am not sure how much the gpu could really help, as its not the greatest card. but the price was excellent w/hp coupons for a 17in quad laptop, at 1/3 of the cost of a macbook pro, but only faster w/hdmi, esata, 2 hdd / a better kit IMO. fascinating hack you have created!

Jun Galinato May 6th, 2010 12:38 AM

Wow! My GTX 9800 works after the hack! Thanks for the tip. This thread should be in the sticky.

Jun

James Park May 6th, 2010 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brant Gajda (Post 1523611)
It certainly runs hot. I didn't really compare it vs my 260 card. Compared to my 260, it sounds about the same imo. No real db testing to be sure.

Best to have a bigger case with good air flow.

Thanks... guess I'll have to get a full tower then. I'm running the GTX 260 along with an i7 12GB RAM, Blackmagic card, 6x1TB drives all jammed packed in an Antec Nine Hundred. CS5 is running sweet right now but I bet I could get more juice from the 400 series card. Mercury Playback is running alright for me as is (thanks to this hack) but its getting more performance from AE effects I'm more looking forward to.

Hannu Korpinen May 6th, 2010 06:43 AM

C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS5>GPUSniffer.exe
Device: 0000000000216CC8 has video RAM(MB): 768
Vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer string: Quadro FX 1800/PCI/SSE2
Version string: 3.0.0

OpenGL version as determined by Extensionator...
OpenGL Version 3.0
Supports shaders!
Supports BGRA -> BGRA Shader
Supports VUYA Shader -> BGRA
Supports UYVY/YUYV ->BGRA Shader
Supports YUV 4:2:0 -> BGRA Shader
Testing for CUDA support...
Found 1 devices supporting CUDA.
CUDA Device # 0 properties -
CUDA device details:
Name: Quadro FX 1800 Compute capability: 1.1
Total Video Memory: 749MB
CUDA driver version: 3000
CUDA Device # 0 not choosen because 765MB are required, and 749MB are present.
Completed shader test!
Internal return value: 7
---------------------------------------------------------

So close but not enough, should I buy screen card again. What is using ram on my video card?

Brant Gajda May 6th, 2010 06:43 AM

Quote:

Thanks... guess I'll have to get a full tower then. I'm running the GTX 260 along with an i7 12GB RAM, Blackmagic card, 6x1TB drives all jammed packed in an Antec Nine Hundred. CS5 is running sweet right now but I bet I could get more juice from the 400 series card. Mercury Playback is running alright for me as is (thanks to this hack) but its getting more performance from AE effects I'm more looking forward to.
Yup. I'm running the same case. Will not do the mid tower case again. Full Tower from now on. Just more room to work in, better airflow, and allows for better wiring.

Paul Cascio May 6th, 2010 07:08 AM

Any chance someone would be willing to write a summary of the information presented in this thread? It's very interesting, but confusing to follow. Or, it could just be me. :)

David Dwyer May 6th, 2010 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Cascio (Post 1523827)
Any chance someone would be willing to write a summary of the information presented in this thread? It's very interesting, but confusing to follow. Or, it could just be me. :)

Paul,

Adobe with CS5 has the feature to use a computers graphics card for rendering/exporting clips. GPU are much faster than a CPU due to the high memory bandwidth.

Officially Adobe only offers this feature for the GeForce GTX 285/ Quadro FX4800/5800 and CX.

However if you change the Cuda text file in your CS5 to suit your card you can have all the effects of the mercury playback engine.

Only real requirement is its a Nvidia card with more than 765MB VRAM.

Paul Cascio May 6th, 2010 04:04 PM

Thanks David. When you say change, do you mean with a simple text editor, like Notepad? Is it just a matter of enter the graphics card name.

David Dwyer May 6th, 2010 04:22 PM

Yep here is the contents of my Cuda text file:

GeForce GTX 285
GeForce GTX 295
GeForce GTX 470
GeForce GTX 480
Quadro CX
Quadro FX 3800
Quadro FX 3700
Quadro FX 4800
Quadro FX 5800

As you can see I have added in a few cards - Although I don't have the cards its not doing any harm.

Paul Cascio May 6th, 2010 05:44 PM

Wow, simple as that. Thanks, my GTX260 turns out to not be obsolete afterall.

Martin Guitar May 7th, 2010 12:34 PM

I can confirm that the GTX 285 has the same issue(alt-tab to another app makes PP5 sluggish using the DSLR editing preset.) as my GTX 295 telling me that there's nothing really specifically done for the GTX 285.

As long as you have enough video memory your 200 cards should all be as good as a 285.

Bo Skelmose May 7th, 2010 12:39 PM

Finally got my GTX 470 and today my CS5. Trying to make it work I try to change cuda_supported_cards.txt but when I try to save it I do not have the permission. I am logged in as an administrator and I have tried to unclick the write protection in the premiere folder and on the file - but no luck - HELP

Martin Guitar May 7th, 2010 12:49 PM

Bo, try this > drag the file onto your desktop and right-click / edit with notepad. When you are done editing, just drag the file back in your premiere folder.

David Dwyer May 7th, 2010 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo Skelmose (Post 1524276)
Finally got my GTX 470 and today my CS5. Trying to make it work I try to change cuda_supported_cards.txt but when I try to save it I do not have the permission. I am logged in as an administrator and I have tried to unclick the write protection in the premiere folder and on the file - but no luck - HELP

I think I had that, make sure PP isnt running and you close all the Adobe Processes in task manager.

David Dwyer May 7th, 2010 01:08 PM

1 Attachment(s)
If anyone is having problems I've added a few cards into my text file and attached it. Just save it to the directory below and overwrite your file in there.

c:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS5\

Bo Skelmose May 7th, 2010 01:09 PM

Great - Thanks - it works - IT is Fantastic how premiere handel video now - Cant wait to start editing projects in CS5....

David Dwyer May 7th, 2010 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo Skelmose (Post 1524292)
Great - Thanks - it works - IT is Fantastic how premiere handel video now - Cant wait to start editing projects in CS5....

Please let us know the results MPE vs Software as I'm about to purchase a GTX 470 tomorrow and would be keen to know your thoughts.

Bo Skelmose May 7th, 2010 01:47 PM

Dont have much time testing today but 1 hour and 6 minutes DVCPro HD exported to quicktime DV took 12 minuttes with hardware activated and 21 minuttes with "only software" Tried editing with more layers with colourcorrection and other accelerated effects and no accelerated effects - and no lost frames (hardware)


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