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Shannon Rawls November 21st, 2005 06:35 PM

works flawlessly. as a matter of fact, I used to capture straight to an 80GB 2.5" laptop drive that I put in sleek little portable case that was connected to my Sony Vaio Laptop using DV Rack. The drive was bus powered by the USB and it captured the incoming DV without a hitch.

Remember, this is a 4200rpm drive... so a full 7200RPM 3.5" drive connected via USB2 is no problem (which I have done as well)

Only thing... make sure your computer is fast enough, because USB is not asynchronous like Firewire (which is why it is prefered). What that means is, when you use firewire, even though it is technically slower then usb2, it does not require any CPU or computer muscle to communicate. its like going from the camera DIRECTLY to the drive through the cables. The computer is there only to point it in the right direction. However with USB...the video has to go through the computer procesor to be told what to do and then finally spit out via USB2.

So basically, an old PIII crappy laptop with 256k of RAM can easily capture DV using a firewire PCMCIA card. But if you try that same computer with a USB2 PCMCIA card...you can bet it will choke.

- ShannonRawls.com

Cesar Perez November 22nd, 2005 03:55 AM

how to add again audio to clip on premiere pro?
 
If I, during edition, on time line "cut" audio of each clip. How can I, after finishing movie, add again original audio to some clips. I'm working on premiere pro. Thanks.

Shaun Patterson November 22nd, 2005 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wes Coughlin
I've been having to use premiere pro 1.0 to capture from minidv because 1.5 does not reconized the device. But, latley for some odd reason, when i go to capture in premiere 1.0, it captures for about 10 or so minutes and then automatically stops no matter what tape it is or camera. I reinstalled premiere 1.0, and that did not fix my problem. So i was wondering if you have any suggestions on what to do next, and mabye know about any updates for premiere 1.5 that would allow me to caputre there. Thnx

I had the exact same problem about 2 months ago and have yet to understand why is happenning. The camera seems to work on and off between to different work stations. Sometines i encountered problems relatted more so to problems on my PC not accosiatted with Premeire.

Barry Oppenheim November 22nd, 2005 08:49 AM

Not sure what you mean by "cut". Do you mean remove the original audio track from the timeline, edit the video, than add the original unedited audio to the video?

If so, what you want to do is right click on your video/audio on the timeline and select unlink audio and video. This will allow you to edit the video without affecting the audio track.

Barry Oppenheim

Karl J Martin November 22nd, 2005 11:52 AM

Okay, here's what's weird...

I connected the DVX to the laptop via firewire, and the laptop to the external drive via USB2, and set Premiere Pro 1.5 to capture from the camera to the external HD...

...and the capture went flawlessly; no drops, no hitches.

But, when I imported the captured video and dropped it onto the Pro 1.5 timeline, it wouldn't play back; I hit the 'play' button and the image just stayed frozen.

If I used the jog wheel, I could jog and shuttle through, just fine. I could step frame-by-frame, just fine. But playing the video back offa the external HD, wasn't working, at all.

Whaddya suppose was happening, there...?

Cesar Perez November 22nd, 2005 12:45 PM

If i have clip of ten seconds, and i need only 3 second of this clip....i cut clip in monitor and put the clip on timeline. Then i was lock the video line, and with right click on audio (that comes with this 3 second of clip), i choose "cut". So now i have clip without sound...how can i add again this 3 second of audio, without ctrl+z. Hope that you understand me becouse my english is bad.

Simon Ward November 22nd, 2005 03:18 PM

Capture straight from a DVD?
 
Hi,

Just started learning Premiere Pro 1.5 and it seems a fantastic package.

Just a simple question. Can I capture footage straight from a DVD disc or must it be on the harddrive first?

Many thanks for any help.

Simon

Shannon Rawls November 22nd, 2005 03:19 PM

Sorry Bro. now we are getting into software issues and I am a Vegas user, not Premier, so I can't help. *sad face*

But try this....

Use something OTHER THAN premier to capture. See how that goes. Maybe the free Windows Movie Maker that comes with XP? or anything else. Now you start narrowing down the issue.

- ShannonRawls.com

Boyd Ostroff November 22nd, 2005 03:29 PM

Moderator note: I've moved this thread to our Premiere forum where you may find someone who can help with this issue

Miguel Lombana November 22nd, 2005 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Bellaire
that's what I meant... Guess I'll buy the Matrox X100 then... thanks

You can also consider the Canopus cards, I've been using them for a little over 2 years and "love'em" no need to render, all realtime, I just hit play. Even exports are better than realtime, I can export to AVI a 15 minute wedding ceremony with effects and transitions, 2 video tracks, 3 to 4 audio tracks and some graphics in under 5 minutes.

Miguel

Andrew Green November 22nd, 2005 06:04 PM

Keyframed Garbage Matte Problem
 
Argh!

There, now with that out of my system, I would greatly appreciate any sage advice on a problem I'm having with this effect.

Here's an image of the issue:

http://www.andrewngreen.com/machina.jpg

What I'm trying to achieve is a static background (the road - footage set to 'hold on out point' with hold filters and deinterlaced), with each of the cars separated from the background, so I can trigger them to travel along the road whenever I like. There may be a better way to do this (using a difference key?), but I used keyframed garbage mattes, and I've got it all set up so they trigger correctly, and it looks fine. So, everything is going swimmingly, except I get these outlines around each of the cars. In the screenshot above they look black, but they come out a teal green in the video.

I've searched the net pretty comprehensively, and the forums too, but the closest to a solution I've found is in the Vegas forum here:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=53436

I have no idea how/if this solution translates to Premiere. Aside from the garbage matte, there are no other effects on the footage, aside from it being accelerated by 3-400%. Ideally, I'd like to keep the garbage mattes and just remove the lines, but if the only way to fix this issue is to approach it completely differently, then I'd love to hear a good way to do that, too.


Cheers!

Agus Casse November 22nd, 2005 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl J Martin
Okay, here's what's weird...

I connected the DVX to the laptop via firewire, and the laptop to the external drive via USB2, and set Premiere Pro 1.5 to capture from the camera to the external HD...

...and the capture went flawlessly; no drops, no hitches.

But, when I imported the captured video and dropped it onto the Pro 1.5 timeline, it wouldn't play back; I hit the 'play' button and the image just stayed frozen.

If I used the jog wheel, I could jog and shuttle through, just fine. I could step frame-by-frame, just fine. But playing the video back offa the external HD, wasn't working, at all.

Whaddya suppose was happening, there...?


Is the camera on when you are doing this ? is teh video coming out to the camera and not in the pc ? if so, un check the proyect setting to disable the output video to the firewire.

Matthew Coady November 23rd, 2005 01:13 AM

Yup, 4:3 is exactly what I have to change. Anyone know if its possible to change between the two during editing? When I began the project i picked widescreen preset under panasonic 24p. When I go up to project>project settings>general I can see 16:9 there, but it won't let me do anything to it (its greyed out). Is there somewhere I can go to modify this setting. Otherwise I'll have to recut everything I've done so far :(

Or atleast if theres a way to import the cuts from another project...

*edit* oh hey! simply going to file>import then importing my old file fixes the problem. Thanks everyone :)

Max Hagelstam November 23rd, 2005 07:22 AM

Nope... A workaround (admittedly not a cheap one) could be After Effects together with:

http://www.gridironxfactor.com/

As I said, not cheap but fast.

/Max

Simon Ward November 23rd, 2005 11:16 AM

I simple yes or no would even help

Barry Oppenheim November 23rd, 2005 11:50 AM

If you have cut the audio from the timeline you can:

Paste the audio anywhere on the timeline by moving the timeline index to the point you want, the go to EDIT/PASTE on the menu.

If you want to put a different portion of the audio with the video (in other words and out of sync audio) you can cut out the portion of audio you want and paste it the same way as above.

Barry Oppenheim

Steven Gotz November 23rd, 2005 03:40 PM

You need to rip the footage to a DV-AVI with a program like ImTooDVD

Andrew Green November 23rd, 2005 05:45 PM

Just a quick update
 
Well, I'm still not having any luck tracking down a solution to this one, but I have tried some further troubleshooting..

I tried removing the background completely - the lines are still there - so they're definitely part of the image which has the garbage matte applied to it, not a reaction by the background. Also, I just noticed the green lines (black lines on the exported frames, but they come out green on the .avi exported, and the DVD) also appear on this image, which also has a garbage matte applied to it, but this one doesn't have any keyframed motion:

http://www.andrewngreen.com/machina2.jpg

So the keyframing's not creating the lines. Also, if you look at the image above, you can see the line actually gets thicker towards the top. Don't know what significance that has, but I thought it may be related to aliasing or interlacing, or possibly as a result of the speed increase applied to the clip.

So I tried slowing it down to 100% speed, but this didn't fix the problem. Also, I have other clips in the same timeline where I've used garbage mattes with sped up footage, and there are no lines!

I'm baffled. I'd greatly appreciate any help with this one - I'm looking at entering the film in a local festival, but can't unless I can get rid of these weird green lines!

Andrew Green November 23rd, 2005 06:40 PM

Eureka!
 
Well well, boys n girls - after losing some sleep and removing some hair, I finally had a light bulb moment.. So, while I know it's a bit selfish to hog the whole thread like this, I thought I might share the solution with you folk..

It was all about motion settings - I had used 'motion' to scale up both of the bits of footage I was having problems with. At normal scale, the green line disappeared. So I tried setting 'motion' back to 100% scale, and applying the scale increase using a Transform filter instead..

Voila - au revoir green line, bonjour decent-looking garbage matte effect! So now, after I manage to copy and paste the new settings to each of the dozens of snippets of footage which need it, I'll be in business.. and hopefully in the film festival too..

Cheers..

Wes Coughlin November 23rd, 2005 07:05 PM

Project File Damage
 
I was trying to export a quick low quality dvd for a preview for some clients of what there was edited of a video; it locked the computer up and when i restarted to reopen the project, the file came up damage and would not open, is there anyway i can open this???? i need the 10+ minutes of footage i edited, really really bad. PLEASE HELP!!!!

David Aguilar November 23rd, 2005 07:31 PM

Have you check your "Adobe Premiere Pro Auto-Save" folder?
theres should be a back-up file there, (if you had auto save enable).

good luck,

Wes Coughlin November 23rd, 2005 07:55 PM

all my auto-save files are also corrupted for some odd reason, any ideas?

Roger Averdahl November 24th, 2005 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wes Coughlin
all my auto-save files are also corrupted for some odd reason, any ideas?

Try to import your project into a new project. It works sometimes, not always though...

Can you open any project at all in Premiere Pro? It is strange that all the audo saved files are corrupted.

A good habit is to take backups of your project files on a dialy basis and use the Save a Copy feature (File > Save a Copy) before and after major changes in the project. This will save you time in the future. :)

/Roger

Michael Karrer November 24th, 2005 09:08 AM

Velocity Curves like in Vegas?
 
Is there any way to achieve the same as "velocity curves" in Vegas with Premiere Pro?

I know i can change the overall speed of a clip but how to change the speed in time?

(Sorry about my engrish but i life in the same town where schwarzeneger was born - what else can i say... )

Steven Gotz November 24th, 2005 09:15 AM

Premiere Pro does not have that. After Effects does, it is called Time Remapping.

Michael Karrer November 24th, 2005 09:27 AM

Thanks a lot - now i know i have wasted two or three hours searching ...

I am still searching for my editing programm -
Adobe Premiere, Vegas, Avid or Edius.

I have absolutely no clue how to find out whats best for me... - maybe another thread ;)

Ron Evans November 24th, 2005 09:34 PM

I have Premiere Pro 1.5.1, Vegas 6 and Edius Pro 3. By choice for DV I use Edius it is the fastest and if it has the capability to do what you want is the easiest. Vegas is by far the most flexible for DV and HDV but is also the slowest at almost everything. If you do long format programs ( events like theatre of several hours at a time) then Edius with Canopus hardware is the way to go with realtime output to DV. IF you need fine control of absolutely everything then Vegas 6 is the one. Although I started on Fast Video Machine moved to Premiere for most of the time, in the last year I use Edius the most and turn to Vegas for the things Edius can't do, special audio mixes , keyframes control of pan and crop etc.

Ron Evans

Josh Woll November 25th, 2005 01:13 PM

Have you checked to see if you have a screen saver running in the background because if anything is going on in the background that might run over premiere while it's capturing it will automatically stop.

There could be a timer saver in the camera as well if nothing is going on for so long it will go into stand-by mode. This will cause the capturing to stop.

Those are a few options if you have not already considered them.

Hope this helps.

Josh Woll November 25th, 2005 01:18 PM

Why its so difficult to capture a 3/4 channel
 
I already have Scenelyzer so please do not think this is another post about that issue.

I just find it difficult wondering how hard it is to have an editing program that will have the option of capturing all 4 channels?

I'm soon upgrading to Final Cut 5 when I finally receive my powermac and I know for a fact you can switch b/t 1/2 and 3/4 when capturing the footage.

Can anybody, or if you want to explain why this is so difficult?

Dan Euritt November 25th, 2005 02:28 PM

scenealyzer gives you all of the options that you need to capture audio channels from tape, including all four channels at once... are you saying that some unspecified editing programs are not capable of that?

since you already have scenealyzer, you don't have any problem capturing audio, so it's not clear what the point of your post is.

Jean-Philippe Archibald November 25th, 2005 02:35 PM

It seem like Josh don't understand why NLE softwares makers dont't integrate this feature directly in their software. I don't understand either.

Andzei Matsukevits November 25th, 2005 04:44 PM

getting film look on premiere
 
i know that it is possible to get kind of film look on final cut pro by creating two tracks and then set ones opacity to 50% and then put deinterlace filters on both of them. But how can i do that in premiere? I cant find any filter where u can select either lower or upper field first?

Miguel Lombana November 25th, 2005 11:39 PM

XL2 Premier Pro 1.5 "Fields" Setting at 30p
 
Someone please clarify this for me, when importing 30p footage shot on a Canon XL2 does the Fields setting in Premier Pro setup as No Fields (Progressive) or does it remain at Lower Fields First (Default).

Thanks in advance,
MIGUEL

Bill Hamell November 27th, 2005 11:53 AM

Softening a hard cut
 
Sometimes a hard cut works and sometimes, when you want a hard cut it just too abrupt.
What technique(s) do you use to correct this so it flows better from scene to scene?

Thanks,
Bill

Matthew Groff November 27th, 2005 12:35 PM

In my experience, during the times that hard cuts seem to be much too jarring, it's less of an issue with respect to the two individual shots than it is to the rhythm of the edit, the expectations of the viewer/editor while watching, the audio underneath it all and the emotional tones of the two scenes. Another, albeit slightly less important, aspect (at least to me) could be moving from a darker scene to a more brightly lit scene -- something that is a little bit jarring physically on the eyes.

Some things you could try would be to bring up a little bit of the audio from the second scene, perhaps the background noise if it's set in a restaurant for example, over the tail end of the first scene so when the visual changes, the aural setting is already in place. Another trick is to let the last shot of the first scene hold just that tiny moment longer before the hard cut so the viewer has fully taken in the shot and is ready for the hard cut to the second scene.

Just a couple of suggestions. Worse comes to worse, you can always fade between scenes which doesn't usually look out of place unless you do it a lot.



mg

Bill Hamell November 27th, 2005 01:16 PM

Matthew,

Thank you for some great advice.
Being a DP I do not edit much, this is a group of jib shots strung together for a demonstration clip. I am not using the audio from the clips; I am using music in place of it. I did notice that the music helped most of the cuts, now I know why. I will try your other suggestions on the remaining clips. One advantage I do have is there is no particular order I have to show them in so I could mix and match as well.

Thank again,
Bill

Aanarav Sareen November 27th, 2005 03:27 PM

When you registered Premiere Pro 1.5 with Adobe, you should have had the option to download the Magic Bullet plugins. If you did not register, I would reccomend doing so ASAP

Wes Coughlin November 28th, 2005 08:59 AM

I ended up reloading premiere, and the auto-save files worked, im glad they did.

Rick Step November 28th, 2005 04:04 PM

ripple Delete
 
Does anyone know if it's possible to ripple delete all the dead space on a timeline?

And for that matter, does anyone know if you can universally apply a transition to all clips? Like if I wanted to put a cross fade on every clip in the timeline?

Thanks again,

Rick

Mo Zee November 29th, 2005 03:00 AM

i received and captured footage from a sony camera, and oddly enough, the footage exhibited the same glitches. so now i'm even more confused. again, the glitches are seen during playback of the captured file and not during capturing, which i find odd because the signal i monitor is from the capture card, and not the deck, so i assume that the signal i see should be what the capture card is capturing. one guy in the canopus forum talked about firmware update- can you do this with dv decks? thanks.


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