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Dan Mumford July 13th, 2005 12:54 AM

Premiere Pro - Photoshop Problem
 
Has anyone else had this problem? In Premiere Pro 1.5.1 and Encore 1.5, neither one recognizes Photoshop CS. I tried to "Edit in Photoshop" from Encore but I get a message that "It does not appear that Photoshop is installed." Trust me, it is. I spent 12 hous learning how to make a cool menu in PS and imported it to Encore, but can't export the same file.

Premiere Pro has Photoshop greyed out from the "New> Photoshop file menu.

Any suggestions?

Dan

Henry Cho July 13th, 2005 02:33 AM

i believe this has to do with the order of installation. if you installed photoshop AFTER you installed premiere, premiere won't see photoshop. this also happens with other apps in the adobe suite of tools, like audition and encore... someone else might be able to clarify the correct order of install for all these apps to work in harmony.

Dan Mumford July 13th, 2005 05:38 AM

That would make sense. I bought Photoshop after the Video collection. I guess I have to remove Encore and PPro and reinstall them. I hope I don't have to go into the registry. I'd hate to have to find all the Adobe instances and figure out which ones need changing.

Thanks,
Dan

Kyle Edwards July 13th, 2005 01:32 PM

Is it CS 1 or 2?

Dan Mumford July 13th, 2005 01:37 PM

CS 1

Dan

Wes Coughlin July 13th, 2005 08:55 PM

Exporting Frames in 16:9
 
Im most likley retarded, but whenever i export a 16:9 frame, and try placing it back into a timline, its in 4:3 format. I make sure all the exporting settings are correct, and the summary concurs with the export settings; its just premiere pro (1.5) is picking the frames to be 4:3 not 16:9. I double check by importing into photoshop, and the frames are in 16:9, like their appose to be. Anyone suggestions???

Scott Lovejoy July 13th, 2005 09:19 PM

Dan -

Have you tried just making a menu in Photoshop and opening it in Encore after you've finished it?

It's kind of a way around it, and saves you from uninstalling/reinstalling, unless you need to do something more with it.

Dan Mumford July 14th, 2005 07:44 AM

I made the menu in PS and imported to Encore as a menu. However, to make a modification, while saving the original Encore file, I need to "edit in Photoshop," otherwise I have to create a new file. (Encore will send PS a copy of the file and after making the changes, they are updated in the original.) I'm just going to reinstall Encore and PPro, so they will see Photoshop. The thing is, I think I knew this because when I first got the Collection, someone told me to install After Effects first for the same reason. (It's funny what you remember when it's too late!)

Dan

Dan Mumford July 14th, 2005 08:19 PM

Just in case someone else does a search for the same problem, here is the solution. After doing a reinstall of Encore without success, I called Adobe. After some discussion, he told me to uninstall Photoshop. I did the unistall and checked the C:\program files\adobe\... for Photoshop to make sure it was gone. I did an install and guess what? It works!

Dan

Peter Robert July 15th, 2005 06:38 AM

Premiere Pro1.5 question
 
I recently boought a Sony Z1 HDV. I start to think about the editing process by using PC.

I always use Vegas 5.0 to edit the footage shot by JVC HD camcoder. Vegas is able to edit and then export mpeg2.ts file which could be exported to D-VHS by other software as long as the data rate closed to 18.3 MB.

Basically, I could do the same to the footage shot by Z1 and I am able to export to D-VHS.

But I want to try Premiere Pro1.5. Importing the footage to the timeline seems to be fine. Then I check the functon of Premiere encoder which is a Mainconcept encoder, I find out that the max data rate is 15 MB. I think the video quality may be worse than that of Vegas. And I don't know whether Premiere can export ts file which is a must if I need to put it back to D-VHS.

If I need to buy other plug-in software to Premiere to achieve what Vegas could do for me, then I will stick to Vegas.

Do you have any suggestions?

David Lach July 15th, 2005 12:15 PM

Image freezing when exporting to tape (PPro)
 
I could use some help right about now. I have this 2h concert that I edited for a client in Premiere Pro 1.5. He wanted it mastered back to MiniDV. So I said to myself, piece of cake right? I'll have this done by noon. Meh... 5 hours later I'm that close to jumping out the window.

Here's the problem. When I choose the export to tape option in PPro, it takes control of my DV camera (XL2) and starts transfering footage on it. The sound is fine, the image looks good, but at random places it freezes for a few secs (I'm seeing this in my camera's viewfinder), only to continue recording like if nothing happened. The weird thing is I have Premiere set to stop the recording if frames are dropped. Well it never stopped recording, meaning to Premiere, everything is working fine.

Where do I go from there? Could it be my firewire cable? I've captured tons of footage on this cable without ever having one single glitch. Why now that I go the other way, to tape, would the cable become a problem? Is it the camera? Again, never had problems with that camera. Is it that I need to set the timecode on the XL2 to something else than rec-run? A setting in Premiere? I'm lost.

I don't know if this is normal, but the timecode that shows up on the timeline when exporting is about 1 sec. in advance of what is recording to tape. I don't see this as being a big deal, but maybe it is. I've tried to export to tape 10 times. Every time the freezing happens at different places. It's completely random.

In case it matters, I have an AMD 1.8Mhz system with 512MB DDR*.

Any pointers or troubleshooting steps, even if fairly obvious, will be appreciated. I'm just about to dump this piece of garbage that is Premiere to try Vegas or Avid, so if I learn the problem comes from PPro, it's in the trash.

Marco Wagner July 15th, 2005 12:21 PM

Have you tried playing the tape back to see if it is actuall dropping? Check your capture settings, I am just guessing.

David Lach July 15th, 2005 12:45 PM

Yes I did. The freezing is recorded to tape. As soon as it does this I have to start all over again (and I can't record 2 min. of clean footage, so I'm pretty much at a dead end).

I'll try rendering one big DV file and re-importing it to Premiere, then exporting this directly to tape. Hope that works, although my pinky says it won't.

Steven Gotz July 15th, 2005 11:09 PM

There is no lower limit for exporting back to tape. It is the same 25Mbps that is originally recorded to tape. I have no idea how you would export to D-VHS though.

Mike Teutsch July 16th, 2005 10:14 AM

Premeire Pro has made a serious error!
 
Last night, while trying to finish my movie for the DV challenge #2, I ran into several major problems with Premiere Pro 1.5.1.

I’ll start with the most serious error first:

While attempting to change effects settings, and playing same on some audio files in the timeline, the files sounded very weird, almost like electrical noise, and the program would quit. Seven times the program, Premiere Pro, put up an error message saying that, “Premiere Pro has committed a serious error and has to close, we will attempt to save your file.” When I would click this error message off, there would be two or three more about dealing with where it was going to try and save it to and other warnings that it may not work.

Each time I was able to open the project again. I couldn’t see any obvious errors in the saved program, but it is really hard to tell with all the tracks. I finally got the effects control window opened for the files, (Premiere Pro did not want to select the files), and I found that these four little audio files had multiple applications of the same audio effects applied to them. For example, they might have four or five pitch changers added to them and multiples of another effect also. I carefully removed them all, while saving many times and quickly finished my “unfinished movie.” But, at the end the audio was not right, I had given up changing it, so that I would not mess it up any further.

Other problems:

In addition to the problem above, I had a lot of trouble trying to select files. I would click on them in every way possible, and they would not select. I managed to drag over some and got them selected, but often could not do anything with them when they were selected.

Another problem was with the titler. I copied one title, renamed it and dropped in to the time line. But each time I edited or modified it, Premiere would modify both of the titles. A real problem when have all your credits etc., made up already and you loose it all. I thought that I was making some kind of error, so I tried starting with a new title. But, when I would try to bring up a new title through the menu or by hitting F9, it would open up with the info from my previous title already in it! And of course when I modified it, it changed the other two on the time line also! Lost all again! I finally figured out that if I closed and restarted Premiere Pro, I could then open a new title and create it without changing the ones in the timeline. Had to do this twice, after spending about two hour trying to figure it out!


Many times when I made editing cuts etc., the audio files would move, but the key frames in them would remain in their original position. At the end, I had key frames sitting all by themselves in blank parts of the audio track, past the end of my movie! This may be the way they are supposed to perform, staying with the timeline when added there and not in the individual clip, but, I could not even select and delete them! At times I would save and close the project, and then reopen it and find I could select files that I could not before!

All in all, it was a nightmare trying to do pretty basic editing on a movie that was only three minutes long!

If you are wondering about the computer, it was not the problem. It had no trouble keeping up with anything. It is a P4, 3.4GHz, two 250GB hard drives, hyperthreading, multiple processing, with one meg of ram, dual monitors, etc… Anytime I needed to render or encode, it was fast and no problems.

Has anyone else encountered these types of problems? I am going to call Adobe and attempt to find an answer to this, so will post their reply.

Thanks---Mike

Dan Vance July 16th, 2005 01:02 PM

While you clearly have tons of processing power, most of the symptoms you describe are consistent with an overloaded CPU. Whether that is being caused by something in Premiere Pro, I don't know. But next time you're running it, as soon as you have trouble selecting an item, immediately go into Windows Task Manager (Cntl-Alt-Del if using XP) and look at Processes and Performance and see if something is using excessive memory or CPU percentage.

Mike Teutsch July 16th, 2005 02:33 PM

That's not the case. And if fact I can open other applications like Audition ect., on the other monitor and run all at once. Does not change anything.

It is not the computer, and if it was, it would totally freek when rendering and encoding, and it does not.

Thank--Mike

Dan Vance July 16th, 2005 04:07 PM

The point was, to check CPU and memory usage, which I guess you had already done. By the way, the fact that you can run a bunch of programs and render with no problem would not necessarily rule out a memory usage problem caused by Premiere.
Just trying to help.

Mike Teutsch July 16th, 2005 04:30 PM

Thanks!
 
I have been checking the computer, as it's a differant one and I running some tests on it right now. I'm thinking part or all of it may have been those bad audio files, at least on the error message part. I hate to do it but I'm thinking I will load one of the copies where they are still messed up and see what they do. I'll let you know. Just rendered a movie, and it was at 52% useage.

Thanks

Christopher Lefchik July 16th, 2005 09:53 PM

Mike,

You might want to check the FAQ over on the Adobe forums called "Audio Tracks Play with Static and Low Quality in Premiere": http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/w...59.2@.2cd0628f. It may have some information that could help.

James Darren July 17th, 2005 05:04 AM

Premiere Pro v7.0 Problem with dissolves
 
hi all,

Captured about 30mins of footage into premiere. Cut it down to approx 5 mins. Theres about 15 cuts on the timeline. On some of the cuts whenever I put a cross dissolve in there, there is a problem with the dissolve. Basically during the dissolve, there is a frame from another part of the timeline which magically appears in the dissolve! In other words, it dissolves from A to B but just before the centre of the dissolve there is this frame from another part of the timeline.... wierd...

Anyone have any ideas?

Rob Lohman July 17th, 2005 05:16 AM

Is this Premiere Pro 1.0 or 1.5? Did you update the version to the latest patch?
From what I understand (I'm not using Premiere, however) is that 1.5 solved
a lot of problems with 1.0 (I could be wrong on that).

Roger Averdahl July 17th, 2005 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Darren
...there is a frame from another part of the timeline which magically appears in the dissolve!

You must have enough of handels of a clip to avoid this problem. Read more about About clip handles and transitions in PPro help.

/Roger

Mike Teutsch July 17th, 2005 07:11 AM

Christopher,

Thanks Christopher. I checked it out and it is not the same. I continued on into the support section for awhile, and nothing yet. Will continue on into it later.

thanks-Mike

Andrew Paul July 18th, 2005 12:28 AM

External Monitor
 
I currently monitor premiere with my XL1s trhough the firewire and thought maybe I should get a dedicated card. I read posts on this site that I should get a card with an analogue out that works with premiere pro 1.5. Is there somewhere a list of all the cards that work, or will any graphics card with an analogue out work. All cards suggested such as matrox canopus etc seem to be capture cards, does the card need to have capture ability for premiere to recognise it. Maybe we could set up a list of what everyone uses to get our own compatability list going

Thanks in advance

Andy

Ed Smith July 18th, 2005 04:19 AM

Hi Andrew,

I would not use a Graphis card for out put to TV.

There are only 2 ways to do it.

1. Buy a capture card like the Matrox RTx series or Canopus line of products. (there are other manufacturers as well). Also remember that these cards are also Hardware accelerator cards. They will speed up the time of rendering and exporting, but are picky about other hardware in your PC (Will be expensive)

2. Use your firewire port and use the analogue pass-thru on your camcorder (not so expensive).

Hope this helps a little,

Steven Davis July 18th, 2005 06:34 AM

I bought a Canopus ADV110 for video capture from my VHS/VCR and got a bonus of being able to run video out my computer firewire into my TV. I think that that is money well spent. (wife is still thinking about it.) The nice thing about the ADV110 is it requires no power if you have a 6 pin firewire connection.

So when I'm doing title placement and such, I just plug it into my tele. It works for that purpose fine.

Hope this helps.

Steven Davis.

Dan Farzad July 18th, 2005 10:04 AM

Disk full errors in Premiere - i have tons of space left!!
 
i'm trying to export a file from premiere and eventhough i have a lot of space on the external HD that is the source of the file and is being outputed to, after 9 min of export i get a disk full error!
i tried exporting to the c:\ drive same error
what is going on?

Brian Handler July 18th, 2005 10:23 AM

what file system are you using

10 bucks says fat32`

Dan Farzad July 18th, 2005 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Handler
what file system are you using

10 bucks says fat32`


uhu
i have a new external HD that i can probably format to ntfs would that solve the damn prob
it is really frostrading and b/c of one file i haven't even start editing the proj that is due tom night

Brian Handler July 18th, 2005 10:39 AM

I've heard about a patch that increses the max filesize for fat32

Yeah go up to NTFS on your external, really shouldn't take to long.

If you have a lot of space and a program like partition magic you could just make your freespace into a ntfs drive.

Glenn Chan July 18th, 2005 06:21 PM

You can convert FAT32 to NTFS without having to format. Google search for "FAT32 to NTFS conversion".
http://www.ntfs.com/quest3.htm

You may have to run "chkdsk /f" on your external drive first.

Your problem may also be something else.

Jimmy McKenzie July 18th, 2005 07:44 PM

Has to be a file size limitation due to FAT32. 2nd hardware remove and replace diagnosis would be to quickly dump in a secondary slave HDrive on your ide cable that currently feeds your cd rom ... this will get your project rendered for tomorrow... you can do without your second dvd/cd-rom for one night...

Also, since nobody mentioned it I suppose I will: When you attempt a second export to a location and file that are the same as the previous attempt, old versions of premiere would not allow this unless you shut down Premiere and re-started ...

Barry Oppenheim July 19th, 2005 03:09 PM

This is a known bug in Premiere Pro. If you do a search on the Adobe web site for "green screen stills" you will see several discussions. It appears to be some sort of memory leak. Adobe is well aware of the problem, but to the best of my knowledge has not made a patch available.

In addition to the previous suggestions, some solutions that I have found that work:
1. Import the photos at a lower resolution. I have only encountered the problem when using high resolution photos. I usually batch reformat the photos in Photoshop, then import them at no more than ~1200 x 1000.
2. Place a black matte as video above the photos, then set the matte opacity to 0%
3. Change the photo slightly using the effects control window. Something as simple as changing the opacity from 100% to 99%, changing the position from 360 to 359, etc. will force the editor to re-render the sequence.
4. Use short sequences of photos/transitions/effects and export them to AVI. Then combine the short sequences into one long sequence.

Good luck,
Barry Oppenheim

Patrick Smith July 19th, 2005 06:17 PM

what do i selcet when encoding?
 
i want the highest quality. but i also want others to be able to download it in a timely fashion....

any suggestions?

btw. 7.0

Ed Smith July 20th, 2005 05:16 AM

Hi Patrick,

That is a very ambiguous question, since there is no one answer, and it depends on a lot of other factors (How long your video is, what you consider to be good quality, what format etc...)

This thread will give you some tips:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=47545

You might also wish to search the web delivery/ DVD forum.

Hope this helps,

Dale Guthormsen July 20th, 2005 01:38 PM

external monitor
 
Andy,

Have you thought about just getting a second monitor and run two monitors right off your computer?? I went to the dual monitor and will never go back.


dale guthormsen

Cody Dulock July 22nd, 2005 11:04 AM

effects window
 
on my effects box in premiere pro 1.5 (not effects controls), the arrows that used to be there to scroll up and down in the box arent there anymore. they magically dissapeared one day (the arrows on the right of the box).

now im having to stretch the window down till i can see the effects i want, sometimes thats not even enough.

how can i get it back to normal??

thanks

Roger Averdahl July 22nd, 2005 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cody Dulock
how can i get it back to normal??

Since the arrows are gone it seems like a un-install followed by a re-install of PPro will do the trick. :)

/Roger

Cody Dulock July 22nd, 2005 11:52 AM

theres got to be a setting somewhere that got tinkered with... i will have to make a screen grab of what im talking about.


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