Vegas not seeing USB mic at DVinfo.net

Ian Stark · December 15th, 2009, 08:58 AM

I'm trying to record a real quick 'n' dirty voiceover using a Samson USB mic (actually, I'm doing it a disservice - the quality is not that bad for a <£100 mic.)

The mic is recognised by Cakewalk Sonar but not by Vegas. I can make the Samson the default recording device in Control Panel, so it's recognised there.

Not sure what has changed but I have used this mic at least twice before with Vegas (Pro 8.0c, running under 32-bit XP SP3) - at least, I thought I had!

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Ian . . .

Edward Troxel · December 15th, 2009, 09:42 AM

Did you go to Options - Preferences to the audio tab and see if it needs to also be selected there?

Ian Stark · December 15th, 2009, 09:57 AM

Hello Edward,

Yes, indeed. In the Audio Device Tab, under Audio Device Type, I get the normal three choices: Microsoft Sound Mapper, Direct Sound Surround Mapper and Windows Classic Wave Driver.

In the Default Audio recording Device I get Microsoft Sound Mapper, Microsoft Sound Mapper-Left and Microsoft Sound Mapper-Right.

Just noticed the same thing in Sound Forge and the demo of Vegas Pro 9. They also don't see the Samson.

I'd be less confused if this was across the board, but the fact that I can see and use the mic in Sonar without any issues has thrown me.

Seth Bloombaum · December 15th, 2009, 10:53 AM

If you can select your usb mic as the default audio recording device in the windows audio control panel, you should then be able to hear it in Vegas when you select "microsoft sound mapper".

Or, did you already try this?

Ian Stark · December 15th, 2009, 11:01 AM

Seth, you're quite right. I had, in fact, tried that and it had failed. I since rebooted (several times) and I guess I failed to try it again until you suggested it. I imagine something got messed up that was cleared in the reboot and I think I was getting hung up on why I couldn't see the device name in the Audio Devices tab. Thanks for the help

Graham Bernard · December 16th, 2009, 03:40 AM

Sometimes USB devices just AREN'T Plug n Play. They do need to have the option of a reboot, being kicked-up their own fundamentals. I've had it with USB Keyboards, cameras, mice and my A4 graphics tablet. If I don't use the USB device for a long period of time, then something DOESN'T happen, and I need to prep the pc with a USB-reboot.

Grazie

Ian Stark · December 16th, 2009, 03:52 AM

Hi Grazie,

What's odd is that it is immediately recognised (by name) by other applications, just not the Sony apps (on any of the machines I've tried it on). As Seth pointed out, it records OK when Microsoft Sound mapper is selected, so it is 'plug 'n' playing', but I could have sworn that it had previously shown up as a specifically named device. I can only imagine I must be mistaken.

When you say a 'USB reboot' what exactly does that entail?

Cheers,

Ian . . .

Ron Evans · December 16th, 2009, 06:32 AM

Was it plugged in BEFORE Vegas was loaded? Vegas and Sound Forge seem to take the attached peripherals status when they are loaded. IF some somethings are plugged in afterwards they don't see them.

Ron Evans

Ian Stark · December 16th, 2009, 06:46 AM

A good thought, Ron. Sadly I tried both ways and still no joy :(

I also tried it plugged in at boot up, unplugged at boot up, under Win 7, Vista and XP. Same thing. Sonar sees it, Skype sees it. Sony apps do not. The Samson help site doesn't give any ideas but I have raised a trouble ticket. (As an aside, searching on 'Windows 7' on their site returns no results!).

Graham Bernard · December 19th, 2009, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Stark

When you say a 'USB reboot' what exactly does that entail?

I call a USB reboot, a "USB reboot", when I disconnect ALL my USB Device, turn off PC, reboot and THEN re-connect each and everyone separately those same USB devices. It is not as if I am rebooting from a USB drive or stick, or whatever. Simply a reboot devoted to re-connecting my USB devices.

"Simples!"

Grazie

Ian Stark · December 19th, 2009, 03:14 AM

Ah OK, yes that sounds like a good thing to try.

Cheers, Grazie. Have a warm weekend! (We have ground to a halt here under a paltry three inches of snow! Ridiculous!)

Ian . . .

Paul R Johnson · December 19th, 2009, 07:06 AM

I know this may sound a bit weird, but I had a similar problem with Sound Forge - not with a USB microphone, but with a USB external sound module which just wasn't on the list of available sources. An internet forum directed me to asioforall - Google will find it. This solved the problem for me on the one computer that was awkward. No idea why?

December 15th, 2009, 08:58 AM	#1
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Vegas not seeing USB mic I'm trying to record a real quick 'n' dirty voiceover using a Samson USB mic (actually, I'm doing it a disservice - the quality is not that bad for a <£100 mic.) The mic is recognised by Cakewalk Sonar but not by Vegas. I can make the Samson the default recording device in Control Panel, so it's recognised there. Not sure what has changed but I have used this mic at least twice before with Vegas (Pro 8.0c, running under 32-bit XP SP3) - at least, I thought I had! Any thoughts? Thanks, Ian . . . __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

December 15th, 2009, 09:42 AM	#2
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Did you go to Options - Preferences to the audio tab and see if it needs to also be selected there? __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

December 15th, 2009, 09:57 AM	#3
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Hello Edward, Yes, indeed. In the Audio Device Tab, under Audio Device Type, I get the normal three choices: Microsoft Sound Mapper, Direct Sound Surround Mapper and Windows Classic Wave Driver. In the Default Audio recording Device I get Microsoft Sound Mapper, Microsoft Sound Mapper-Left and Microsoft Sound Mapper-Right. Just noticed the same thing in Sound Forge and the demo of Vegas Pro 9. They also don't see the Samson. I'd be less confused if this was across the board, but the fact that I can see and use the mic in Sonar without any issues has thrown me. __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

December 15th, 2009, 10:53 AM	#4
Seth Bloombaum Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,420	If you can select your usb mic as the default audio recording device in the windows audio control panel, you should then be able to hear it in Vegas when you select "microsoft sound mapper". Or, did you already try this? __________________ 30 years of pro media production. Vegas user since 1.0. Webcaster since 1997. Freelancer since 2000. College instructor since 2001.

December 15th, 2009, 11:01 AM	#5
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Seth, you're quite right. I had, in fact, tried that and it had failed. I since rebooted (several times) and I guess I failed to try it again until you suggested it. I imagine something got messed up that was cleared in the reboot and I think I was getting hung up on why I couldn't see the device name in the Audio Devices tab. Thanks for the help __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

December 16th, 2009, 03:40 AM	#6
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Sometimes USB devices just AREN'T Plug n Play. They do need to have the option of a reboot, being kicked-up their own fundamentals. I've had it with USB Keyboards, cameras, mice and my A4 graphics tablet. If I don't use the USB device for a long period of time, then something DOESN'T happen, and I need to prep the pc with a USB-reboot. Grazie

December 16th, 2009, 03:52 AM	#7
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Hi Grazie, What's odd is that it is immediately recognised (by name) by other applications, just not the Sony apps (on any of the machines I've tried it on). As Seth pointed out, it records OK when Microsoft Sound mapper is selected, so it is 'plug 'n' playing', but I could have sworn that it had previously shown up as a specifically named device. I can only imagine I must be mistaken. When you say a 'USB reboot' what exactly does that entail? Cheers, Ian . . . __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

December 16th, 2009, 06:32 AM	#8
Ron Evans Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,220	Was it plugged in BEFORE Vegas was loaded? Vegas and Sound Forge seem to take the attached peripherals status when they are loaded. IF some somethings are plugged in afterwards they don't see them. Ron Evans

December 16th, 2009, 06:46 AM	#9
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	A good thought, Ron. Sadly I tried both ways and still no joy :( I also tried it plugged in at boot up, unplugged at boot up, under Win 7, Vista and XP. Same thing. Sonar sees it, Skype sees it. Sony apps do not. The Samson help site doesn't give any ideas but I have raised a trouble ticket. (As an aside, searching on 'Windows 7' on their site returns no results!). __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

December 19th, 2009, 03:14 AM	#11
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Ah OK, yes that sounds like a good thing to try. Cheers, Grazie. Have a warm weekend! (We have ground to a halt here under a paltry three inches of snow! Ridiculous!) Ian . . . __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

December 19th, 2009, 07:06 AM	#12
Paul R Johnson Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lowestoft - UK Posts: 4,045	I know this may sound a bit weird, but I had a similar problem with Sound Forge - not with a USB microphone, but with a USB external sound module which just wasn't on the list of available sources. An internet forum directed me to asioforall - Google will find it. This solved the problem for me on the one computer that was awkward. No idea why?