So I bought a Vinten FibreTec at DVinfo.net

Scott Brickert · January 5th, 2009, 11:03 AM

So I bought a Vinten FibreTec from Adorama.

Based on the pic, I thought I was getting a great deal on the sticks, feet, spreader and strap. Turns out it was just a non-WYSIWG poor listing, so I received the sticks and strap only, drop shipped from Vinten.

After the long decision-making and shipping process, it was a fun experience opening the box. I'd also ordered the 75-100mm Bowl Adapter for installing a Sachtler DV6SB head on the legs. This was taped to the top of the tripod box.

Fresh out of the box, the users manual laying on the floor in it's unopened plastic wrap, I began playing with the 'controls'. 5 of 6 leg locks worked fine, the other gave some resistance and that section required a push to slide out, unlike the others. A small plastic piece fell to the floor, which I took to be something untrimmed from the molding process.

I extended the legs full out, and was happy to see that with the head installed, the camera might just barely be above crowd level, depending on the crowd ;)

Working with the Sachtler head, it turns out the bowl adapter consumes about an inch of inset, so that there's not enough bolt left to tighten it down. Setting the head in the 100mm bowl, at least it's clear the clamp will work with Vinten, if I can get it to set in lower.

At the time I was fed up with the vague listing and description, so I decided to return it. I looked it over one more time to make sure everything is in order and ask myself again if I really wanted to return it, and discovered the trouble-maker leg lock was now frozen. I pull out on the lever and nothing happens, it just swings out, while the underlying mechanism remains locked. So it looks like that little piece of plastic was not extra after all. Thankfully the section is in the closed position, so I can box it up and send it back.

I never used excessive or noticeable force in working with the legs. 5 of 6 sections worked and slid freely. The sixth is defective, or, if not, an indication of how fragile the construction is. Hopefully the former, since my old original $25 PoC Velbon that's been rattling around the back of the pickup for the last 7 years has shown higher reliability.

Even when the replacement, hopefully 'Professional Grade' sticks arrive, I still have to solve the problem of getting the Sachtler head to fit deeper into the bowl. Anyone seen an adapter that sits down in the 100mm bowl, rather that on top?

Chris Soucy · January 5th, 2009, 09:08 PM

Think with the run of luck you're having it might be wise to stay indoors under cover for the next 3 months lest you get hit by that escaped toolbox from the last Shuttle mission.

I'm not aware of a standard 100 - 75 mm adapter that's going to make a whole heap of difference.

Doesn't mean there isn't one, just ain't heard of it.

Tried both my Manfrotto & B.Hague adapters on my FT's this am, the B.Hague gives one complete extra turn on the bolt, doen't sound like it's enough to solve your problem.

Reckon the only people who might know would be either Sachtler or Vinten.

As a last resort get a local engineering machine shop to lathe a mm or two off the inside of the adapter.

Else call it quits and go for a set of Sachtler sticks instead, at least there's a fighting chance the head and sticks might just be compatible.

CS

Andy Wilkinson · January 5th, 2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Soucy

Think with the run of luck you're having it might be wise to stay indoors under cover for the next 3 months lest you get hit by that escaped toolbox from the last Shuttle mission.

Or if it did n't hit you on the head as it landed next to you....(!) maybe you could use the said toolbox to modify the adapter? (after all, it was n't a cheap toolbox, was it!).

I think Chris is right, we have a Hague 100 to 75mm adapter and I suspect that won't help enough as indicated.

Jack Walker · January 6th, 2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Brickert

I still have to solve the problem of getting the Sachtler head to fit deeper into the bowl. Anyone seen an adapter that sits down in the 100mm bowl, rather that on top?

I found one that works on my Cartoni Alpha and no-name Hi-Hat. It is basically a large washer with a machine-tapered edge on the inside. The washer drops in and sets about half-way down in the cast bowl (providing your head is made with a bowl shape under the top mount.

Go down to the second item from the bottom on this page:
Long Valley Equipment | products

The picture shows the adapter and the kind of bowl it works with. This is not high-tech, but it works very well for me.

The company is in New Jersey, U.S.A., but you can email them and probably work out shipping. The thing weight only 2.2 ounces.

Chris Soucy · January 6th, 2009, 04:34 PM

Looks just like my B. Hague adapter except the BH is alloy, not steel.

Could you do something, Jack?

Can you take a couple of measurements of your adapter and compare them to these for the B. Hague unit?

Outer: 93 mm (a whisker under 3 11/16ths ins - could be 3 21/32?)

Inner: 65 mm (the same whisker over 2 9/16ths ins. - could be 2 19/32?)

The first at the top of the outer bevel, the second at the bottom of the inner bevel.

If your "Outer" is smaller or the "Inner" larger (or both) it sounds like it may just do the business.

CS

Jack Walker · January 6th, 2009, 05:25 PM

The dimensions of the adapter (machined washer) I have are:

Outside diameter: Exactly 3 inches
Inside diameter: 2-1/32" inches

Outside bevel diameter: 2-5/32"

This appears smaller than the dimensions you give. It fits right about halfway between the top and bottom of the bowl framework. It adds about 3/4 inches extension to the bottom of the head out through the hole in the bottom of the bowl framework.

Chris Soucy · January 6th, 2009, 05:35 PM

Reckon that's gotta be the way to go.

Now all Scott needs is a set of intact and functional FT's and he's ready to roll.

I'll stay tuned for the next exciting episode - oh, when is that toolbox due to head earthwards, anyone know?

CS

Scott Brickert · January 6th, 2009, 06:22 PM

Hey Chris and Jack,
thanks a million, I'll keep you posted.

As far as luck, it always runs out.

I'm standing by the door ready to kick it on the way by.

:)

Chris Soucy · February 27th, 2009, 10:21 PM

Reckoned it was about time to see how this played out.

You sort your issues with the FT's?

I was staggered to find this thread only ended on Jan 7th. Feels like last year already.

CS

January 5th, 2009, 11:03 AM	#1
Scott Brickert Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Crested Butte, CO Posts: 576	So I bought a Vinten FibreTec So I bought a Vinten FibreTec from Adorama. Based on the pic, I thought I was getting a great deal on the sticks, feet, spreader and strap. Turns out it was just a non-WYSIWG poor listing, so I received the sticks and strap only, drop shipped from Vinten. After the long decision-making and shipping process, it was a fun experience opening the box. I'd also ordered the 75-100mm Bowl Adapter for installing a Sachtler DV6SB head on the legs. This was taped to the top of the tripod box. Fresh out of the box, the users manual laying on the floor in it's unopened plastic wrap, I began playing with the 'controls'. 5 of 6 leg locks worked fine, the other gave some resistance and that section required a push to slide out, unlike the others. A small plastic piece fell to the floor, which I took to be something untrimmed from the molding process. I extended the legs full out, and was happy to see that with the head installed, the camera might just barely be above crowd level, depending on the crowd ;) Working with the Sachtler head, it turns out the bowl adapter consumes about an inch of inset, so that there's not enough bolt left to tighten it down. Setting the head in the 100mm bowl, at least it's clear the clamp will work with Vinten, if I can get it to set in lower. At the time I was fed up with the vague listing and description, so I decided to return it. I looked it over one more time to make sure everything is in order and ask myself again if I really wanted to return it, and discovered the trouble-maker leg lock was now frozen. I pull out on the lever and nothing happens, it just swings out, while the underlying mechanism remains locked. So it looks like that little piece of plastic was not extra after all. Thankfully the section is in the closed position, so I can box it up and send it back. I never used excessive or noticeable force in working with the legs. 5 of 6 sections worked and slid freely. The sixth is defective, or, if not, an indication of how fragile the construction is. Hopefully the former, since my old original $25 PoC Velbon that's been rattling around the back of the pickup for the last 7 years has shown higher reliability. Even when the replacement, hopefully 'Professional Grade' sticks arrive, I still have to solve the problem of getting the Sachtler head to fit deeper into the bowl. Anyone seen an adapter that sits down in the 100mm bowl, rather that on top? __________________ Scott Shot-By-Scott

January 5th, 2009, 09:08 PM	#2
Chris Soucy Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield, Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 3,688 Images: 18	Hi........... Think with the run of luck you're having it might be wise to stay indoors under cover for the next 3 months lest you get hit by that escaped toolbox from the last Shuttle mission. I'm not aware of a standard 100 - 75 mm adapter that's going to make a whole heap of difference. Doesn't mean there isn't one, just ain't heard of it. Tried both my Manfrotto & B.Hague adapters on my FT's this am, the B.Hague gives one complete extra turn on the bolt, doen't sound like it's enough to solve your problem. Reckon the only people who might know would be either Sachtler or Vinten. As a last resort get a local engineering machine shop to lathe a mm or two off the inside of the adapter. Else call it quits and go for a set of Sachtler sticks instead, at least there's a fighting chance the head and sticks might just be compatible. CS

January 6th, 2009, 04:34 PM	#5
Chris Soucy Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield, Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 3,688 Images: 18	Great find Jack.............. Looks just like my B. Hague adapter except the BH is alloy, not steel. Could you do something, Jack? Can you take a couple of measurements of your adapter and compare them to these for the B. Hague unit? Outer: 93 mm (a whisker under 3 11/16ths ins - could be 3 21/32?) Inner: 65 mm (the same whisker over 2 9/16ths ins. - could be 2 19/32?) The first at the top of the outer bevel, the second at the bottom of the inner bevel. If your "Outer" is smaller or the "Inner" larger (or both) it sounds like it may just do the business. CS

January 6th, 2009, 05:35 PM	#7
Chris Soucy Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield, Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 3,688 Images: 18	Yep............... Reckon that's gotta be the way to go. Now all Scott needs is a set of intact and functional FT's and he's ready to roll. I'll stay tuned for the next exciting episode - oh, when is that toolbox due to head earthwards, anyone know? CS

January 6th, 2009, 06:22 PM	#8
Scott Brickert Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Crested Butte, CO Posts: 576	Hey Chris and Jack, thanks a million, I'll keep you posted. As far as luck, it always runs out. I'm standing by the door ready to kick it on the way by. :) __________________ Scott Shot-By-Scott

January 6th, 2009, 05:25 PM	#6
Jack Walker Trustee Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Burbank Posts: 1,811	The dimensions of the adapter (machined washer) I have are: Outside diameter: Exactly 3 inches Inside diameter: 2-1/32" inches Outside bevel diameter: 2-5/32" This appears smaller than the dimensions you give. It fits right about halfway between the top and bottom of the bowl framework. It adds about 3/4 inches extension to the bottom of the head out through the hole in the bottom of the bowl framework.

February 27th, 2009, 10:21 PM	#9
Chris Soucy Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield, Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 3,688 Images: 18	Hey Scott................ Reckoned it was about time to see how this played out. You sort your issues with the FT's? I was staggered to find this thread only ended on Jan 7th. Feels like last year already. CS Last edited by Chris Soucy; February 27th, 2009 at 10:22 PM. Reason: Whoops.