PMW200 LCD Colour Shift at DVinfo.net

Joe Lawry · January 9th, 2013, 06:54 PM

Has anyone else found that their PMW200's LCD shifts towards green/yellow?

I can see a huge difference between my EVF and LCD. My EVF also matches my external HDSDI monitor.

Cheers

Lukas Hribik · January 10th, 2013, 03:36 AM

Hi, I noticed the same problem. There is a big difference between EVF and LCD colors. I own a EX1R too and managed to color balanced EX1R with 200 through HDSDI output using vectroscope. Both camcoder have a same color on external monitor, EX1R has a quite similar colors on LCD but PMW200's colors are significantly shifted toward green. This is really annoying and confusing when using both camcoders.

I checked a second PMW200 unit but the problem was same. Is this a global problem with PMW200? Is there a option to calibrate LCD in service menu?

Duane Dubiel · January 10th, 2013, 11:07 AM

I have the same problem. Looks dark green. Always makes you second guess your exposure and white balance.

Joe Lawry · January 14th, 2013, 12:08 AM

I took my pmw200 to the Engineering bench at Sony NZ to go over it with their head engineers.

It seems the camera does have a green bias on the LCD however it is actually the EVF that is even less accurate on the camera.

They believe the EVF has a Sony 'Vivid' look. (Talking in Sony Bravia marketing)

I then went and spent my first real day shooting on the camera out and about. After using the camera I am now of the opinion that the LCD is too contrasty and needs to be flattened out. The EVF is the same.

Both 'monitors' are definitely different colours though.

Lukas Hribik · January 14th, 2013, 04:33 AM

Joe, is there same service procedure to calibrate LCD or we are supposed just to live with it?

Zoran Vincic · January 14th, 2013, 04:43 AM

Not so long ago I shot side by side (the cams were set up identically) with a colleague who recently (summer 2012) changed the EX1 LCD and the difference between my cam and his cam was astounding. His LCD had a terrible green tint compared to mine.

Looks like they're all like that now :(

Gregory Argyropoulos · March 27th, 2013, 09:40 AM

Is there a way to adjust the colors of the lcd monitor from the service menu and how can I access it?

Larry Kropp · March 27th, 2013, 08:53 PM

Not real excited about this. So do I buy a new EX1r now and wait awhile until they get more bugs worked out before I buy the -200. I already have one EX1r and I love the camera. No color shift issues at all between the view finder and LCD. Thanks.

Larry

Robert Bale · March 28th, 2013, 05:46 AM

Hey, I have noticed my EVF is very green , on the pmw 200, I just got a EX1 and the EVF is so much better. Hmm.hope the fix this with a firmware update.

Gregory Argyropoulos · March 28th, 2013, 07:49 AM

I have both ex1r and pmw 200. Only pmw 200 has the problem. If I can’t solve this soon, I will buy another ex1r, because I can’t carry an external monitor with me all the time. There are three of my colleagues waiting sony to solve the problem, so they can buy pmw 200 too.

Gregory Argyropoulos · March 28th, 2013, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukas Hribik

Joe, is there same service procedure to calibrate LCD or we are supposed just to live with it?

Does anyone know how can I access service menu on pmw 200 and how can i adjust lcd colors?

Larry Kropp · March 30th, 2013, 08:00 AM

Where can I get a new EX1r? B&H is out of stock. I think we let Sony sit with the -200's until they
get all of their issues fixed. Thanks.

Larry Kropp · March 30th, 2013, 08:03 AM

Maybe another issue with -200. I've read where you can't fit a wireless receiver on the hot shoe and open the LCD at the same time. Could that be true?? What about adding a onboard shotgun microphone. Any issue with that? Does it have a hot shoe at the back of the camera like the EX1r?

Dave Sperling · March 30th, 2013, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Kropp

Maybe another issue with -200. I've read where you can't fit a wireless receiver on the hot shoe and open the LCD at the same time. Could that be true?? What about adding a onboard shotgun microphone. Any issue with that? Does it have a hot shoe at the back of the camera like the EX1r?

The LCD opens from the top of the camera just behind the hot shoe. On one hand this allows you to fit a matte box on the lens in a way you couldn't with the EX1. The hot shoe is fine for mounting a slim LED light like the LitePanels LP-Micro. The back of the handle has a 1/4" thread in it for another mounting point. I got a 1/4" to HotShoe adapter for times I want to mount a second hotshoe item instead of something using the 1/4" thread (like a monitor - which I wouldn't trust on a hot shoe.)
The mic holder is to the right of where the LCD closes, so there are no clearance issues with mounting a shotgun in it.

Gregory Argyropoulos · April 1st, 2013, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Kropp

Maybe another issue with -200. I've read where you can't fit a wireless receiver on the hot shoe and open the LCD at the same time. Could that be true?? What about adding a onboard shotgun microphone. Any issue with that? Does it have a hot shoe at the back of the camera like the EX1r?

You can't fit a wireless receiver or a comer led light on the hot shoe and open the LCD at the same time.

January 9th, 2013, 06:54 PM	#1
Joe Lawry Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 418	PMW200 LCD Colour Shift Has anyone else found that their PMW200's LCD shifts towards green/yellow? I can see a huge difference between my EVF and LCD. My EVF also matches my external HDSDI monitor. Cheers

January 10th, 2013, 03:36 AM	#2
Lukas Hribik New Boot Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Trnava, Slovakia Posts: 10	Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift Hi, I noticed the same problem. There is a big difference between EVF and LCD colors. I own a EX1R too and managed to color balanced EX1R with 200 through HDSDI output using vectroscope. Both camcoder have a same color on external monitor, EX1R has a quite similar colors on LCD but PMW200's colors are significantly shifted toward green. This is really annoying and confusing when using both camcoders. I checked a second PMW200 unit but the problem was same. Is this a global problem with PMW200? Is there a option to calibrate LCD in service menu?

January 10th, 2013, 11:07 AM	#3
Duane Dubiel New Boot Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Whitehall WI Posts: 15	Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift I have the same problem. Looks dark green. Always makes you second guess your exposure and white balance.

January 14th, 2013, 12:08 AM	#4
Joe Lawry Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 418	Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift I took my pmw200 to the Engineering bench at Sony NZ to go over it with their head engineers. It seems the camera does have a green bias on the LCD however it is actually the EVF that is even less accurate on the camera. They believe the EVF has a Sony 'Vivid' look. (Talking in Sony Bravia marketing) I then went and spent my first real day shooting on the camera out and about. After using the camera I am now of the opinion that the LCD is too contrasty and needs to be flattened out. The EVF is the same. Both 'monitors' are definitely different colours though.

January 14th, 2013, 04:33 AM	#5
Lukas Hribik New Boot Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Trnava, Slovakia Posts: 10	Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift Joe, is there same service procedure to calibrate LCD or we are supposed just to live with it?

January 14th, 2013, 04:43 AM	#6
Zoran Vincic Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Split, Croatia Posts: 189	Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift Not so long ago I shot side by side (the cams were set up identically) with a colleague who recently (summer 2012) changed the EX1 LCD and the difference between my cam and his cam was astounding. His LCD had a terrible green tint compared to mine. Looks like they're all like that now :(

March 27th, 2013, 09:40 AM	#7
Gregory Argyropoulos New Boot Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Patras, Greece Posts: 6	Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift Is there a way to adjust the colors of the lcd monitor from the service menu and how can I access it?

March 27th, 2013, 08:53 PM	#8
Larry Kropp Regular Crew Join Date: May 2011 Location: Green Bay, WI Posts: 69	Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift Not real excited about this. So do I buy a new EX1r now and wait awhile until they get more bugs worked out before I buy the -200. I already have one EX1r and I love the camera. No color shift issues at all between the view finder and LCD. Thanks. Larry

March 28th, 2013, 05:46 AM	#9
Robert Bale Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: australia Posts: 407	Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift Hey, I have noticed my EVF is very green , on the pmw 200, I just got a EX1 and the EVF is so much better. Hmm.hope the fix this with a firmware update. __________________ Rob. www.rpbproductions.com robert@rpbproductions.com HD101/G5 Mac/4gig Ram/1TB HDD/30" Cinema Display/FCP.

March 28th, 2013, 07:49 AM	#10
Gregory Argyropoulos New Boot Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Patras, Greece Posts: 6	Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift I have both ex1r and pmw 200. Only pmw 200 has the problem. If I can’t solve this soon, I will buy another ex1r, because I can’t carry an external monitor with me all the time. There are three of my colleagues waiting sony to solve the problem, so they can buy pmw 200 too.

March 30th, 2013, 08:00 AM	#12
Larry Kropp Regular Crew Join Date: May 2011 Location: Green Bay, WI Posts: 69	Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift Where can I get a new EX1r? B&H is out of stock. I think we let Sony sit with the -200's until they get all of their issues fixed. Thanks.

March 30th, 2013, 08:03 AM	#13
Larry Kropp Regular Crew Join Date: May 2011 Location: Green Bay, WI Posts: 69	Re: PMW200 LCD Colour Shift Maybe another issue with -200. I've read where you can't fit a wireless receiver on the hot shoe and open the LCD at the same time. Could that be true?? What about adding a onboard shotgun microphone. Any issue with that? Does it have a hot shoe at the back of the camera like the EX1r?