Sony SBAC-US10 SxS Memory Card USB reader at DVinfo.net

Jim Stamos · July 24th, 2011, 05:13 PM

does this transfer the footge off sxs faster than going from camera directly?

Dave Sperling · July 24th, 2011, 07:51 PM

Jim,
I know very few people who transfer directly from the camera. Personally I use laptops with Expresscard34 slots for the SxS card, and have an SBAC-US10 reader for my desktop. From what I've heard, transferring off the camera may be slower, but what it certainly does is tie up the camera, which would never work in my workflow.
I did some transfers today with the SBAC-US10 through my desktop PC onto an external USB2 drive, and had a throughput speed of about 27 or 28MB/sec. (rough computation - just over 1.5 GB per minute). That means a 32GB card in about 20 minutes. Of course with USB2, your processor speed may be a factor, not to mention the speed of the drive that you're transferring to.

Jim Stamos · July 24th, 2011, 09:32 PM

thanks dave,
btw, i have usb3.0 on my system, i take it the reader isnt 3.0 fast, only goes to 2.0

Alister Chapman · July 25th, 2011, 08:33 AM

The SBAC-US10 is USB 2.

If you don't have a laptop with express card slot then the only fast options are to use the Sony PHU-MS240 connected via eSata as a card reader or the Sonnet QiO if your a Mac user.

The QiO is about twice the price of the US10, but worth it if your doing a lot of transfers, it's very fast.

Jim Stamos · July 25th, 2011, 08:38 AM

limited budget,
so the sbac is no faster than transferring off the camera directly?

Les Wilson · July 25th, 2011, 04:15 PM

I happen to have an SxS card with some data from my last shoot and some time to run a test. Here's the results on my MacBook Pro: MacOS 10.5.8, Intel 2.5GHz Core Duo, 5400RPM Hitachi 250GB drive with 30GB free

Data size copied in the test: 3.893 GB
Methodology: XDCAM Browser drag and drop to a new folder on the internal MacBook Pro hard drive

Results in mm:ss
PMW-EX1R: 03:50
SBAC-US10: 04:30
Express Card Slot: 02:25

Jim Stamos · July 25th, 2011, 05:41 PM

thanks les,
glad i saw this.im better off just going out of camera, waste of money getting the sbac
wish my dell laptop had the slot

Alister Chapman · July 26th, 2011, 03:07 PM

Unless you are only off loading to the internal drive, more often than not the laptops slot advantage is lost as you have to use a USB 2 hard drive. Some of the newer PC laptops with USB 3 are going to allow you to have very fast transfers.

Again this is where the QiO comes into it's own as it also has esata ports of fast hard drives.

Mitchell Lewis · July 28th, 2011, 07:24 AM

Honestly, there's a good argument for using the camera to transfer.

On the one hand, it's a pain to drag the camera into the editing suite.

On the other hand, you'll never forget the SxS cards when you leave for a shoot. (can't tell you how many times I've left them in the edit suite by accident)

Walter Brokx · August 3rd, 2011, 03:24 PM

Yes, the USB reader is faster:
you can leave it where it is,
you don't have to get it out of your camerabag/case,
you don't have to 'find' the gate for the usb ,
you don't have to make room for the camera to transfer data,
you don't have to power your camera,
and you can use it while the camera is somewhere else :-p

So, the transfer speed may be the same, the speedgain is in all the other things.
And it's convenient :-)

This same question has been asked before.... or is this not a deju-va (and did I get a glipse of the future a few months ago? ;-) )

July 24th, 2011, 05:13 PM	#1
Jim Stamos Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 565	Sony SBAC-US10 SxS Memory Card USB reader does this transfer the footge off sxs faster than going from camera directly?

July 24th, 2011, 07:51 PM	#2
Dave Sperling Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tinton Falls, NJ Posts: 780	Re: Sony SBAC-US10 SxS Memory Card USB reader Jim, I know very few people who transfer directly from the camera. Personally I use laptops with Expresscard34 slots for the SxS card, and have an SBAC-US10 reader for my desktop. From what I've heard, transferring off the camera may be slower, but what it certainly does is tie up the camera, which would never work in my workflow. I did some transfers today with the SBAC-US10 through my desktop PC onto an external USB2 drive, and had a throughput speed of about 27 or 28MB/sec. (rough computation - just over 1.5 GB per minute). That means a 32GB card in about 20 minutes. Of course with USB2, your processor speed may be a factor, not to mention the speed of the drive that you're transferring to.

July 24th, 2011, 09:32 PM	#3
Jim Stamos Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 565	Re: Sony SBAC-US10 SxS Memory Card USB reader thanks dave, btw, i have usb3.0 on my system, i take it the reader isnt 3.0 fast, only goes to 2.0

July 25th, 2011, 08:33 AM	#4
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Re: Sony SBAC-US10 SxS Memory Card USB reader The SBAC-US10 is USB 2. If you don't have a laptop with express card slot then the only fast options are to use the Sony PHU-MS240 connected via eSata as a card reader or the Sonnet QiO if your a Mac user. The QiO is about twice the price of the US10, but worth it if your doing a lot of transfers, it's very fast. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

July 25th, 2011, 08:38 AM	#5
Jim Stamos Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 565	Re: Sony SBAC-US10 SxS Memory Card USB reader limited budget, so the sbac is no faster than transferring off the camera directly?

July 25th, 2011, 04:15 PM	#6
Les Wilson Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 3,014	Re: Sony SBAC-US10 SxS Memory Card USB reader I happen to have an SxS card with some data from my last shoot and some time to run a test. Here's the results on my MacBook Pro: MacOS 10.5.8, Intel 2.5GHz Core Duo, 5400RPM Hitachi 250GB drive with 30GB free Data size copied in the test: 3.893 GB Methodology: XDCAM Browser drag and drop to a new folder on the internal MacBook Pro hard drive Results in mm:ss PMW-EX1R: 03:50 SBAC-US10: 04:30 Express Card Slot: 02:25 Last edited by Les Wilson; July 25th, 2011 at 06:12 PM. Reason: wording

July 25th, 2011, 05:41 PM	#7
Jim Stamos Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 565	Re: Sony SBAC-US10 SxS Memory Card USB reader thanks les, glad i saw this.im better off just going out of camera, waste of money getting the sbac wish my dell laptop had the slot

July 26th, 2011, 03:07 PM	#8
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Re: Sony SBAC-US10 SxS Memory Card USB reader Unless you are only off loading to the internal drive, more often than not the laptops slot advantage is lost as you have to use a USB 2 hard drive. Some of the newer PC laptops with USB 3 are going to allow you to have very fast transfers. Again this is where the QiO comes into it's own as it also has esata ports of fast hard drives. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

July 28th, 2011, 07:24 AM	#9
Mitchell Lewis Trustee Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 1,124	Re: Sony SBAC-US10 SxS Memory Card USB reader Honestly, there's a good argument for using the camera to transfer. On the one hand, it's a pain to drag the camera into the editing suite. On the other hand, you'll never forget the SxS cards when you leave for a shoot. (can't tell you how many times I've left them in the edit suite by accident) __________________ Sony EX3, Canon 5D MkII, Chrosziel Matte Box, Sachtler tripod, Steadicam Flyer, Mac Pro, Apple/Adobe software - 20 years as a local videographer/editor

August 3rd, 2011, 03:24 PM	#10
Walter Brokx Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Maassluis, The Netherlands Posts: 294	Re: Sony SBAC-US10 SxS Memory Card USB reader Yes, the USB reader is faster: you can leave it where it is, you don't have to get it out of your camerabag/case, you don't have to 'find' the gate for the usb , you don't have to make room for the camera to transfer data, you don't have to power your camera, and you can use it while the camera is somewhere else :-p So, the transfer speed may be the same, the speedgain is in all the other things. And it's convenient :-) This same question has been asked before.... or is this not a deju-va (and did I get a glipse of the future a few months ago? ;-) ) __________________ Brainstormnavigator searching for the hole in the sky..... Audiovisual Designer (NL) - http://www.brokxmedia.nl