Safe area for 16:9?? at DVinfo.net

Giannis Pass · June 28th, 2010, 05:23 AM

Hello,
how i can display the safe area for 16:9 in the lcd of my ex1r?
The 1920x1080 is teh same safe area with Pal Dvcam?

Tom Hardwick · June 28th, 2010, 07:48 AM

What do you mean by 'safe area'? The days of overscan displays have gone, so what you see in the v'finders will be what you see on your NLE and on the vast majority of flat screen TVs and projection screens. If you're thinking old CRT displays, then keep the titles and action within an imaginary 10% border.

tom.

Walter Brokx · June 28th, 2010, 01:00 PM

It should be there in the viewfinder section of the menu.
I suppose you got your camera with a manual? ;-)

A sidenote: offcourse there is no over/underscan in your NLE... but people are still using 'old-fashioned tubes' so if you want to be on the safeside: use the safety. But on the 'newer' tubes the margins are smaller than in the '80's...

Olof Ekbergh · June 28th, 2010, 04:43 PM

And even modern consumer LCD or Plasma cut of some of the picture, usually 3-5%.

Internet video does not unless you crop it yourself, I know I do, to match what people see on TV's.

And anything submitted for broadcast should follow the standard action and title safe areas.

Boyd Ostroff · June 28th, 2010, 05:10 PM

My Sony Bravia LCD has a menu setting to show all pixels. Out of the box, it was disabled (set to overscan). I'll bet this isn't something the average consumer would think to change, so I suspect there are still plenty of people who aren't seeing the full frame.

June 28th, 2010, 05:23 AM	#1
Giannis Pass Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 120	Safe area for 16:9?? Hello, how i can display the safe area for 16:9 in the lcd of my ex1r? The 1920x1080 is teh same safe area with Pal Dvcam?

June 28th, 2010, 01:00 PM	#3
Walter Brokx Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Maassluis, The Netherlands Posts: 294	It should be there in the viewfinder section of the menu. I suppose you got your camera with a manual? ;-) A sidenote: offcourse there is no over/underscan in your NLE... but people are still using 'old-fashioned tubes' so if you want to be on the safeside: use the safety. But on the 'newer' tubes the margins are smaller than in the '80's... __________________ Brainstormnavigator searching for the hole in the sky..... Audiovisual Designer (NL) - http://www.brokxmedia.nl

June 28th, 2010, 04:43 PM	#4
Olof Ekbergh Sponsor: Westside AV Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mount Washington Valley, NH, USA Posts: 1,365	And even modern consumer LCD or Plasma cut of some of the picture, usually 3-5%. Internet video does not unless you crop it yourself, I know I do, to match what people see on TV's. And anything submitted for broadcast should follow the standard action and title safe areas. __________________ Olof Ekbergh • olof@WestsideAV.com Westside A V Studios • http://www.WestsideAVstore.com/

June 28th, 2010, 07:48 AM	#2
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	What do you mean by 'safe area'? The days of overscan displays have gone, so what you see in the v'finders will be what you see on your NLE and on the vast majority of flat screen TVs and projection screens. If you're thinking old CRT displays, then keep the titles and action within an imaginary 10% border. tom.

June 28th, 2010, 05:10 PM	#5
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,801	My Sony Bravia LCD has a menu setting to show all pixels. Out of the box, it was disabled (set to overscan). I'll bet this isn't something the average consumer would think to change, so I suspect there are still plenty of people who aren't seeing the full frame.