Shotgun Mic for Ex1

Peter Wright · October 11th, 2009, 08:32 PM

I use a Sony ECM-678.
Great sound, and comes with a rubber sleeve which fits snugly into the EX1 mic holder.

Steve Pond · October 12th, 2009, 02:14 PM

I decided on the NTG-3. I got it new for less than $600, and it has a much "warmer" sound than the MK66 Sennheiser and closely matches the 416 that's more than twice the price. I don't have much experience with other mics, but I liked the way the NTG-3 matches up with the 416 for the money. You can go to the bicycle shop and get a foam hand grip to mount either the Sennheiser or Rode.

Brett Sherman · October 13th, 2009, 08:32 PM

I got a used Sanken CS-1 off ebay. It's great as an interview or on camera mic. It's short enough so I can get my camera in the bag with it on.

Also take a look at the Audio Technica AT-875R. For the price, it rocks! It's also even shorter than the CS-1. I've used it a few times. I might get one for myself so I can have both an on camera and off camera shotgun in my bag.

William Urschel · October 14th, 2009, 06:08 AM

I would second Peter, above, rah, rah, for the Sony ECM-678. I know, it doesn't have the cachet of other brands, but given price and performance, its great! And given the superb audio frequency response and other great characteristics of the EX-1 (what do they mean, dscontinued, good grief!), its a winner. In the past, the audio recording capacities of many camcorders was abysmal, and this camera is outstanding! I've run frequency response tests (record and then playback) of the EX-1, Sony ECM-678 mic, and the frequency response down to and including 30 Hz is just great! To say nothing of usable response up to and beyond 10 kHz (unfortunately beyond these old ears).

Colin Rowe · October 14th, 2009, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Shovlar

Depends what you budget is. Personally I wouldn't go near a Rode NTG-2. Terrible in windy conditions even with a dead cat.

Most mics suffer from this not just the NTG2. Try this test on any mic you have. Fit the mic and headphones on your cam, then, listening through the headphones, blow very gently round the xlr connection, battery compartment thread and the tiny filter switch on the mic, it will sound like a force 10 gale. The answer is iether tape up all points where wind is going to get through, or use a piece of mic windshield foam to cover the back of the mic, and make sure your Softie or Miniscreen covers any joints and miniswitches. I do this on all my mics. No more wind problems, (even shooting out on the cliffs, here in North Cornwall). Rycote actually point out the need to do just this on there website

Heiner Boeck · October 17th, 2009, 03:25 AM

Hi:
If everybody "meets" a used Sanken CS-1 for sale - get in touch with me. heinavesi@gmail.com
Thanx loads in advance!
Heiner

Paul Cronin · October 26th, 2009, 09:44 AM

I went for the NTG-3 with a few extras purchased off the classified. Look forwarded to improved audio on the EX1 and PMW-350 this winter.

Jay Lee · October 26th, 2009, 03:04 PM

One shotgun mic you don't hear about very much is the Beyer Dynamic MCE 86. I've been using this mic for years in all sorts of situations and it has never let me down. It's great for run and gun interviews and had excellent off axis noise rejection. I use it with a softie and have no complaints. The thing I like most about it is the quality of the audio, warm and transparent.

Leonard Levy · October 26th, 2009, 11:30 PM

double post

Leonard Levy · October 26th, 2009, 11:31 PM

Have you guys tried an Octava MC012 w/ hypercardioid capsule.
Very cheap and very good quality mic.

Not quite as directional as some of the others but not bad. I used to use this with my old PD100s and PD150's

You need to use a wind screen or a softie and a good idea would be to get an inline lowcut adapter or just turn on the wind filter.
Very nice sound quality though - I think much better than a 416 for a fraction of the cost.

Max Allen · October 27th, 2009, 12:08 AM

MKH416, I've AB'd it against the Neumann, Schoeps and Sanken and it sounded better. I've also been using it for probably 10 years. The newer Sennheisers don't sound as good in my opinion. 416 is a proven and familiar sound in studios and post houses worldwide.

Leonard Levy · October 27th, 2009, 12:31 AM

I guess everyone has different ears. I had a 416 and sold it right after getting my Octava. That was on the advice of 2 very experienced sound menn and on my tests with another experienced sound man.

We liked the sound quality of the Octava much more and even found in a loud restaurant that it seemed to isolate the sound in front of us even more. No doubt the 416 has great reputation though.

Steve Shovlar · October 27th, 2009, 03:58 AM

I own the Octava MK-012 and its a decent cheap mic. IMO it's not even close to a Sennheiser MKH416 or MKH60.

I use the Octava for interviews and bits and bobs, but I would say its a world away from the Senns. Of course its a fraction of the price, so not likely to be in the same league, and value for money wise it's an excellent buy. I would chose the Octava over the Rode NTG-2 any day.

Ed Kukla · October 27th, 2009, 04:17 AM

octava sounds great but it suffers from handling noise. I only use it on a fixed boom during a sit down interview.

Ronnie Martin · October 27th, 2009, 07:48 AM

I would like to use the standard mic holder on the Ex-3 rather than use one of the shoes or an aftermarket mic holder. Does anyone know where I could purchase the rubber insert on the standard Sony Mic so that the new mic fits the standard sony mic attachment device?

Thanks

Ronnie Martin
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October 26th, 2009, 09:44 AM	#22
Paul Cronin Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 4,048	I went for the NTG-3 with a few extras purchased off the classified. Look forwarded to improved audio on the EX1 and PMW-350 this winter. __________________ Paul Cronin www.paulcroninstudios.com

October 27th, 2009, 07:48 AM	#30
Ronnie Martin Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Brandon, Ms 39042 USA Posts: 159	I would like to use the standard mic holder on the Ex-3 rather than use one of the shoes or an aftermarket mic holder. Does anyone know where I could purchase the rubber insert on the standard Sony Mic so that the new mic fits the standard sony mic attachment device? Thanks Ronnie Martin Page 1 __________________ Ronnie Martin Kato Video

October 11th, 2009, 08:32 PM	#16
Peter Wright Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 193	I use a Sony ECM-678. Great sound, and comes with a rubber sleeve which fits snugly into the EX1 mic holder.

October 12th, 2009, 02:14 PM	#17
Steve Pond Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 44	I decided on the NTG-3. I got it new for less than $600, and it has a much "warmer" sound than the MK66 Sennheiser and closely matches the 416 that's more than twice the price. I don't have much experience with other mics, but I liked the way the NTG-3 matches up with the 416 for the money. You can go to the bicycle shop and get a foam hand grip to mount either the Sennheiser or Rode.

October 13th, 2009, 08:32 PM	#18
Brett Sherman Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mount Rainier, MD Posts: 428	I got a used Sanken CS-1 off ebay. It's great as an interview or on camera mic. It's short enough so I can get my camera in the bag with it on. Also take a look at the Audio Technica AT-875R. For the price, it rocks! It's also even shorter than the CS-1. I've used it a few times. I might get one for myself so I can have both an on camera and off camera shotgun in my bag.

October 14th, 2009, 06:08 AM	#19
William Urschel Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bee Cave, Texas Posts: 151	I would second Peter, above, rah, rah, for the Sony ECM-678. I know, it doesn't have the cachet of other brands, but given price and performance, its great! And given the superb audio frequency response and other great characteristics of the EX-1 (what do they mean, dscontinued, good grief!), its a winner. In the past, the audio recording capacities of many camcorders was abysmal, and this camera is outstanding! I've run frequency response tests (record and then playback) of the EX-1, Sony ECM-678 mic, and the frequency response down to and including 30 Hz is just great! To say nothing of usable response up to and beyond 10 kHz (unfortunately beyond these old ears).

October 17th, 2009, 03:25 AM	#21
Heiner Boeck Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Varkaus Finland Posts: 33	Hi: If everybody "meets" a used Sanken CS-1 for sale - get in touch with me. heinavesi@gmail.com Thanx loads in advance! Heiner

October 26th, 2009, 03:04 PM	#23
Jay Lee Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 57	One shotgun mic you don't hear about very much is the Beyer Dynamic MCE 86. I've been using this mic for years in all sorts of situations and it has never let me down. It's great for run and gun interviews and had excellent off axis noise rejection. I use it with a softie and have no complaints. The thing I like most about it is the quality of the audio, warm and transparent.

October 26th, 2009, 11:30 PM	#24
Leonard Levy Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,684	double post

October 26th, 2009, 11:31 PM	#25
Leonard Levy Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,684	Have you guys tried an Octava MC012 w/ hypercardioid capsule. Very cheap and very good quality mic. Not quite as directional as some of the others but not bad. I used to use this with my old PD100s and PD150's You need to use a wind screen or a softie and a good idea would be to get an inline lowcut adapter or just turn on the wind filter. Very nice sound quality though - I think much better than a 416 for a fraction of the cost.

October 27th, 2009, 12:08 AM	#26
Max Allen Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NY Posts: 186	MKH416, I've AB'd it against the Neumann, Schoeps and Sanken and it sounded better. I've also been using it for probably 10 years. The newer Sennheisers don't sound as good in my opinion. 416 is a proven and familiar sound in studios and post houses worldwide.

October 27th, 2009, 12:31 AM	#27
Leonard Levy Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,684	I guess everyone has different ears. I had a 416 and sold it right after getting my Octava. That was on the advice of 2 very experienced sound menn and on my tests with another experienced sound man. We liked the sound quality of the Octava much more and even found in a loud restaurant that it seemed to isolate the sound in front of us even more. No doubt the 416 has great reputation though.

October 27th, 2009, 03:58 AM	#28
Steve Shovlar Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dorset UK Posts: 697	I own the Octava MK-012 and its a decent cheap mic. IMO it's not even close to a Sennheiser MKH416 or MKH60. I use the Octava for interviews and bits and bobs, but I would say its a world away from the Senns. Of course its a fraction of the price, so not likely to be in the same league, and value for money wise it's an excellent buy. I would chose the Octava over the Rode NTG-2 any day.

October 27th, 2009, 04:17 AM	#29
Ed Kukla Major Player Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: All over, USA Posts: 512	octava sounds great but it suffers from handling noise. I only use it on a fixed boom during a sit down interview.