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Norm Rehm · March 26th, 2011, 04:29 PM

What brand filters do you buy to protect your lenes?

Norm

Jeff Harper · March 26th, 2011, 04:41 PM

Just don't buy the cheapest price, get a coated filter if you can afford it. Even the famous Tiffen brand makes some cheap junk. It's not so much brand as quality, which you can pretty much determine by price. If it costs under $20 or $30, it's probably not so good. It should also specify that it is coated.

Les Wilson · March 26th, 2011, 05:01 PM

I use multi coated b+w filters. even uv filter can cause glare that won't occur with a naked lens. They also reduce effectiveness of the lens shade. I only use Filters when shooting in dusty conditions. Lenses are pretty tolerant. Get a genuine lens pen and a Spudz for cleaning.

Jim Forrest · March 26th, 2011, 07:56 PM

A scratch on a UV filter is a lot cheaper to replace than a scratch on a lens.

Jeff Harper · March 26th, 2011, 08:16 PM

I think it depends...on the shooter. When doing run and gun, where the hazards are aplenty, when you change lenses, etc., if you're rushed at times, the UV filter is a good thing.

Likewise, at events where things get splashed (I've had a drink splashed on a camera once) a UV filter is not a bad idea.

Les Wilson · March 26th, 2011, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Forrest

A scratch on a UV filter is a lot cheaper to replace than a scratch on a lens.

But that doesn't mean you should always have a UV filter on. If you aren't in a situation that puts the lens in danger, your footage will be better wrt reflected and direct light without the filter.

Jeff Harper · March 26th, 2011, 08:37 PM

So in other words, if needed, keep it on if you like. Then when you are in a situation where it would be best removed, take it off.

Les, is it possible to generalize the situations where it would likely be best to remove a UV filter? I have them on two lenses, my 20mm f/1.7 and my 50mm f/1.4.

Or are you saying just take it off whenever you conditions are safe?

Jim Forrest · March 26th, 2011, 10:11 PM

I had to send back a 5 grand fuji lens to be reground because someone opened a door and the knob scratched the lens. Happily I did not to pay for it but now I never practice unsafe videography.
A UV filter is the first thing I buy for a new camera.

Dan Carter · March 26th, 2011, 11:32 PM

Always a controversial topic..

My preference is for lens hoods or lens caps for protection.

Les Wilson · March 27th, 2011, 05:53 AM

For me, a UV or Polariser is something I decide if I need for a shoot when I configure my gear for a shoot. When in the camera bag or equipment bag, the cap is on. So the norm is off. Studio and indoor events are typically safe. Shooting from vehicles that move are questionable. Common sense always applies. e.g. bride/groom cake scenes, while typically an indoor event, are notorious for introducing flying debris.... ditto shooting near bodies of water or from boats (a vehicle that moves). Exceptions apply, YMMV.

BTW, attached is a frame from video where you can see the shape of the top and side of the lens hood reflected in the dusty polarizer filter (in the trees on the right). For that shot, the polarizer created a reflective surface not shaded by the lens hood illustrating the effect of the hood but also the negative effects of having a reflective surface in front of the lens. It was, however, a moving vehicle and I rightly had the filter was on.

Jeff Harper · March 27th, 2011, 06:15 AM

Thanks for posting Les. For many like me, this topic is a no-brainer, ie., put the protector on and leave it.

On the other handk your explanation makes sense and your photo is an alarming demonstration that conventional thinking on this subject might fall short.

I spend $$$ on lenses. If you think about it, why would one want to put something between my expensive glass and the subject that offers no improvement, but potentially can distort or otherwise negatively effect the image?

Very good information, and I will keep in mind that for weddings I can leave filter off, until the reception, and then when I arrive at the reception hall, on they will go.

Brian Luce · March 27th, 2011, 10:53 AM

For an alternative, try the Cokin P system. Cheap and makes your rig look more pimped.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/474688-REG/Cokin_CBP40058_P_Series_Filter.html

Guy McLoughlin · March 28th, 2011, 11:07 AM

If you are willing to spend the money ( I am ), I would recommend getting one of the "Digital HD" grade filters, that you can leave on your lens most of the time. ( I would always want to scratch or damage a filter, instead of damaging a lens )

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/533171-REG/Tiffen_52HTHZE86_52mm_Digital_HT_High.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/574269-REG/Hoya_XHD52UV_52mm_Ultraviolet_UV_Haze.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/391171-REG/Hoya_XD52UV_52_mm_Ultraviolet_UV.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/756811-REG/B_W_66_1066104_52mm_XS_Pro_NANO_Clear.html

March 26th, 2011, 04:29 PM	#1
Norm Rehm Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Keizer, OR Posts: 66	What Brand Filter For Protection What brand filters do you buy to protect your lenes? Norm

March 26th, 2011, 04:41 PM	#2
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: What Brand Filter For Protection Just don't buy the cheapest price, get a coated filter if you can afford it. Even the famous Tiffen brand makes some cheap junk. It's not so much brand as quality, which you can pretty much determine by price. If it costs under $20 or $30, it's probably not so good. It should also specify that it is coated. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

March 26th, 2011, 05:01 PM	#3
Les Wilson Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 3,014	Re: What Brand Filter For Protection I use multi coated b+w filters. even uv filter can cause glare that won't occur with a naked lens. They also reduce effectiveness of the lens shade. I only use Filters when shooting in dusty conditions. Lenses are pretty tolerant. Get a genuine lens pen and a Spudz for cleaning.

March 26th, 2011, 07:56 PM	#4
Jim Forrest Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Washington DC Posts: 368	Re: What Brand Filter For Protection A scratch on a UV filter is a lot cheaper to replace than a scratch on a lens.

March 26th, 2011, 08:16 PM	#5
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: What Brand Filter For Protection I think it depends...on the shooter. When doing run and gun, where the hazards are aplenty, when you change lenses, etc., if you're rushed at times, the UV filter is a good thing. Likewise, at events where things get splashed (I've had a drink splashed on a camera once) a UV filter is not a bad idea. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

March 26th, 2011, 08:37 PM	#7
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: What Brand Filter For Protection So in other words, if needed, keep it on if you like. Then when you are in a situation where it would be best removed, take it off. Les, is it possible to generalize the situations where it would likely be best to remove a UV filter? I have them on two lenses, my 20mm f/1.7 and my 50mm f/1.4. Or are you saying just take it off whenever you conditions are safe? __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

March 26th, 2011, 10:11 PM	#8
Jim Forrest Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Washington DC Posts: 368	Re: What Brand Filter For Protection I had to send back a 5 grand fuji lens to be reground because someone opened a door and the knob scratched the lens. Happily I did not to pay for it but now I never practice unsafe videography. A UV filter is the first thing I buy for a new camera.

March 26th, 2011, 11:32 PM	#9
Dan Carter Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 366	Re: What Brand Filter For Protection Always a controversial topic.. My preference is for lens hoods or lens caps for protection.

March 27th, 2011, 05:53 AM	#10
Les Wilson Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 3,014	Re: What Brand Filter For Protection For me, a UV or Polariser is something I decide if I need for a shoot when I configure my gear for a shoot. When in the camera bag or equipment bag, the cap is on. So the norm is off. Studio and indoor events are typically safe. Shooting from vehicles that move are questionable. Common sense always applies. e.g. bride/groom cake scenes, while typically an indoor event, are notorious for introducing flying debris.... ditto shooting near bodies of water or from boats (a vehicle that moves). Exceptions apply, YMMV. BTW, attached is a frame from video where you can see the shape of the top and side of the lens hood reflected in the dusty polarizer filter (in the trees on the right). For that shot, the polarizer created a reflective surface not shaded by the lens hood illustrating the effect of the hood but also the negative effects of having a reflective surface in front of the lens. It was, however, a moving vehicle and I rightly had the filter was on. Attached Thumbnails

March 27th, 2011, 06:15 AM	#11
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: What Brand Filter For Protection Thanks for posting Les. For many like me, this topic is a no-brainer, ie., put the protector on and leave it. On the other handk your explanation makes sense and your photo is an alarming demonstration that conventional thinking on this subject might fall short. I spend $$$ on lenses. If you think about it, why would one want to put something between my expensive glass and the subject that offers no improvement, but potentially can distort or otherwise negatively effect the image? Very good information, and I will keep in mind that for weddings I can leave filter off, until the reception, and then when I arrive at the reception hall, on they will go. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

March 27th, 2011, 10:53 AM	#12
Brian Luce Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,290	Re: What Brand Filter For Protection For an alternative, try the Cokin P system. Cheap and makes your rig look more pimped. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/474688-REG/Cokin_CBP40058_P_Series_Filter.html

March 28th, 2011, 11:07 AM	#13
Guy McLoughlin Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 287	Re: What Brand Filter For Protection If you are willing to spend the money ( I am ), I would recommend getting one of the "Digital HD" grade filters, that you can leave on your lens most of the time. ( I would always want to scratch or damage a filter, instead of damaging a lens ) http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/533171-REG/Tiffen_52HTHZE86_52mm_Digital_HT_High.html http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/574269-REG/Hoya_XHD52UV_52mm_Ultraviolet_UV_Haze.html http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/391171-REG/Hoya_XD52UV_52_mm_Ultraviolet_UV.html http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/756811-REG/B_W_66_1066104_52mm_XS_Pro_NANO_Clear.html