Still having 2X speed problem with my 720 30P CFHD files, Help! at DVinfo.net

Shawn Whiting · February 21st, 2010, 12:12 PM

Hey Everyone,

Was hoping someone could read this over and let me know if they've expereienced anything similar. Please make sure to read the whole thing before you respond as I have already dealt with cineform support and they have already given me the patch for this problem.

When i use NeoScene to transcode my Panasonic HMC150 720 30P clips to cineform, the result is a file where the picture plays back at 2X speed, while the audio remains normal speed and is fine.

Cineform support gave me a patch "doublespeedfix.reg" to fix the problem, but it did not work for me, even though windows claims it changed the registry values it contained.

I read somewhere that the patch is different for each OS and editing software. Is it possible they just gave me the wrong patch? Im on:

Adobe premiere CS4 4.2.1
Vista ultimate 64bit
I7 720 processor
12gigs ram
ATI radeon 4850 HD

Can anyone upload their patch if they have a similar setup and got the patch to work?
David Newman of cineform said:

"I just ran some HMC150 tests here and all is working, so a conflict on your side is a good possibility. Only component I avoid is ffdshow, it can be made to work but it pretty intrusive on my DirectShow functions. DirectShow is heavily used by HDlink/NeoScene."

This makes me think maybe a codec or program I have installed may be conflicting with cineform. but then why would it only be with 720 30P footage? Is it more likely that the patch just didnt install right in my registry? Do i need to have any certain codec or codec pack installed before applying the patch? because i did uninstall a good deal of codecs in an attempt to get cineform to work before they gave me the patch.

Has anyone else had this problem and the patch did not apply correctly or did not work at all for them like me? Thanks for any feedback!

- Shawn

Graham Hickling · February 21st, 2010, 07:35 PM

Prompted by Shawn's post, I just converted some 720P30 from my HMC40, using the latest HDLink (this weekend's beta) ... and I find have exactly the same problem.

Tried applying the DoublespeedFix.reg file that Cineform provided some time ago, but this didn't help. This is on a Win7 x64 system.

(Shawn I've responded to your p.m.)

Jake Segraves · February 22nd, 2010, 02:24 PM

Tim came up with a fix for this. Email support and I will send it to you.

Shawn Whiting · February 22nd, 2010, 02:50 PM

Thanks Jake and Tim!

Graham Hickling · February 22nd, 2010, 03:40 PM

Likewise - thanks!

David LeGroin · February 24th, 2010, 07:30 PM

Having the same issue and wrote Cineform Support after finding this thread. I've tried all the same fixes as you with the same results, so you're not alone. Haven't heard from Cineform yet but I'm glad the fix is available. I can't possibly work in AE with these Panasonic AVCHD files...

Graham Hickling · February 24th, 2010, 08:28 PM

David I'd be happy to share it with you, but is there a PM system on this forum - if so I couldn't find it?

David LeGroin · February 24th, 2010, 08:38 PM

Graham, that would be excellent. You should now be able to click my username on the left and choose "Send email to...". I'm not aware of a PM system on this forum otherwise.

thanks!

David LeGroin · February 24th, 2010, 08:55 PM

Got the fix from Graham - thanks again!!

Steve Brame · March 15th, 2010, 05:33 PM

I'm in the same boat, and I inadvertently started another thread. Could I get in on the 'fix'?

Although...my files from my HMC-150 are loading onto a Premiere CS4 timeline and playing quite smoothly now, even with the display settings at 'High'. Not sure if Cineform conversion will be necessary.

David LeGroin · March 28th, 2010, 06:05 PM

The MTS files work 'ok' for me in Premiere, but absolutely kill me in After Effects. There have been a few changes in Neoscene since this thread was last updated, so I'm interested to see if Cineform has incorporated a fix into the app. I don't know which versions are supported by the 'fix' at this point.

Nick Vanbelle · May 24th, 2010, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Hickling

David I'd be happy to share it with you, but is there a PM system on this forum - if so I couldn't find it?

Please send it to me as well. I still have the problem (see thread http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/cineform...nic-files.html).

Thanks in advance!

Graham Hickling · May 24th, 2010, 05:53 PM

Email me, so I can respond.

Brad Miller · January 18th, 2011, 11:08 PM

I've had NeoScene and the HMC150 for over a year and have never been able to get NeoScene converted 720p clips to play back correctly. I've run the patches, uninstalled every reference to cineform on my system as instructed and reinstalled. Still the same problem.

Now I can't even get NeoScene to covert my 720 footage at all. The progress bar just stops midway through each clip, and the portion that it does manage to convert plays back at half speed.

So now I'm just editing the raw clips since NeoScene doesn't work for me. :(

If anyone knows a solution, please let me know.

February 21st, 2010, 12:12 PM	#1
Shawn Whiting Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Blacksburg VA Posts: 75	Still having 2X speed problem with my 720 30P CFHD files, Help! Hey Everyone, Was hoping someone could read this over and let me know if they've expereienced anything similar. Please make sure to read the whole thing before you respond as I have already dealt with cineform support and they have already given me the patch for this problem. When i use NeoScene to transcode my Panasonic HMC150 720 30P clips to cineform, the result is a file where the picture plays back at 2X speed, while the audio remains normal speed and is fine. Cineform support gave me a patch "doublespeedfix.reg" to fix the problem, but it did not work for me, even though windows claims it changed the registry values it contained. I read somewhere that the patch is different for each OS and editing software. Is it possible they just gave me the wrong patch? Im on: Adobe premiere CS4 4.2.1 Vista ultimate 64bit I7 720 processor 12gigs ram ATI radeon 4850 HD Can anyone upload their patch if they have a similar setup and got the patch to work? David Newman of cineform said: "I just ran some HMC150 tests here and all is working, so a conflict on your side is a good possibility. Only component I avoid is ffdshow, it can be made to work but it pretty intrusive on my DirectShow functions. DirectShow is heavily used by HDlink/NeoScene." This makes me think maybe a codec or program I have installed may be conflicting with cineform. but then why would it only be with 720 30P footage? Is it more likely that the patch just didnt install right in my registry? Do i need to have any certain codec or codec pack installed before applying the patch? because i did uninstall a good deal of codecs in an attempt to get cineform to work before they gave me the patch. Has anyone else had this problem and the patch did not apply correctly or did not work at all for them like me? Thanks for any feedback! - Shawn

February 21st, 2010, 07:35 PM	#2
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	Prompted by Shawn's post, I just converted some 720P30 from my HMC40, using the latest HDLink (this weekend's beta) ... and I find have exactly the same problem. Tried applying the DoublespeedFix.reg file that Cineform provided some time ago, but this didn't help. This is on a Win7 x64 system. (Shawn I've responded to your p.m.) Last edited by Graham Hickling; February 21st, 2010 at 08:16 PM.

March 15th, 2010, 05:33 PM	#10
Steve Brame Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC and Atlanta, GA Posts: 52	I'm in the same boat, and I inadvertently started another thread. Could I get in on the 'fix'? Although...my files from my HMC-150 are loading onto a Premiere CS4 timeline and playing quite smoothly now, even with the display settings at 'High'. Not sure if Cineform conversion will be necessary. __________________ Steve Brame creative illusions Productions

February 22nd, 2010, 02:24 PM	#3
Jake Segraves Sponsor: CineForm Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 153	Tim came up with a fix for this. Email support and I will send it to you.

February 22nd, 2010, 02:50 PM	#4
Shawn Whiting Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Blacksburg VA Posts: 75	Thanks Jake and Tim!

February 22nd, 2010, 03:40 PM	#5
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	Likewise - thanks!

February 24th, 2010, 07:30 PM	#6
David LeGroin New Boot Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Palm Beach, FL Posts: 23	Having the same issue and wrote Cineform Support after finding this thread. I've tried all the same fixes as you with the same results, so you're not alone. Haven't heard from Cineform yet but I'm glad the fix is available. I can't possibly work in AE with these Panasonic AVCHD files...

February 24th, 2010, 08:28 PM	#7
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	David I'd be happy to share it with you, but is there a PM system on this forum - if so I couldn't find it?

February 24th, 2010, 08:38 PM	#8
David LeGroin New Boot Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Palm Beach, FL Posts: 23	Graham, that would be excellent. You should now be able to click my username on the left and choose "Send email to...". I'm not aware of a PM system on this forum otherwise. thanks!

February 24th, 2010, 08:55 PM	#9
David LeGroin New Boot Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Palm Beach, FL Posts: 23	Got the fix from Graham - thanks again!!

March 28th, 2010, 06:05 PM	#11
David LeGroin New Boot Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Palm Beach, FL Posts: 23	The MTS files work 'ok' for me in Premiere, but absolutely kill me in After Effects. There have been a few changes in Neoscene since this thread was last updated, so I'm interested to see if Cineform has incorporated a fix into the app. I don't know which versions are supported by the 'fix' at this point.

May 24th, 2010, 05:53 PM	#13
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	Email me, so I can respond.

January 18th, 2011, 11:08 PM	#14
Brad Miller New Boot Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Hoboken, NJ Posts: 11	I've had NeoScene and the HMC150 for over a year and have never been able to get NeoScene converted 720p clips to play back correctly. I've run the patches, uninstalled every reference to cineform on my system as instructed and reinstalled. Still the same problem. Now I can't even get NeoScene to covert my 720 footage at all. The progress bar just stops midway through each clip, and the portion that it does manage to convert plays back at half speed. So now I'm just editing the raw clips since NeoScene doesn't work for me. :( If anyone knows a solution, please let me know.