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December 26th, 2006, 06:10 AM

I'm considering purchasing this lens, but would like to see the manual for it before purchasing it... is it available on line or could someone post a copy of it?

thanks

Mike Teutsch · December 26th, 2006, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tod Geddes

I'm considering purchasing this lens, but would like to see the manual for it before purchasing it... is it available on line or could someone post a copy of it?

thanks

Did a quick search and did not come up with a manual, but you can check this link out for the features.

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...&modelid=14556

The manuals on the lenses tend to be a simple sheet of paper with the specs and the procedure for back flange adjustment and that is all.

What information are you looking for?

Mike

Bruce S. Yarock · December 26th, 2006, 09:28 AM

Todd,
I emailed you about mine.
Bruce S. yarock
www.yarock.com

Jim Martin · December 26th, 2006, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tod Geddes

I'm considering purchasing this lens, but would like to see the manual for it before purchasing it... is it available on line or could someone post a copy of it?

thanks

Its a brillant lens! We are very impressed.....No ca in the corners...distortion minimal....and some of our more desriminating clients love it.....iris ring.....

Jim Martin

Marty Hudzik · December 26th, 2006, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce S. Yarock

Todd,
I emailed you about mine.
Bruce S. yarock
www.yarock.com

Bruce.....you have 6x lens already? Or I am misunderstanding?

Bruce S. Yarock · December 26th, 2006, 03:46 PM

Duh....
I missread the title of the post and thought it was about the 16x...
Bruce S. Yarock

Pete Bauer · December 26th, 2006, 05:52 PM

Mike is correct about the instructions; they're not really a "manual" but a large sheet with one column per language. Since nobody's found the instructions posted yet, I won't take it upon myself to post a copy on the internet. However, I'll give a quick overview:

Describes in very brief and basic terms how to:
Mount and unmount the lens and hood.
Use the 3 rings (manual focus, zoom, and iris)
Set other functions
- AF - M
- AF Push button
- ND Filter
- Mode selector (Min Object Dist)
- Focus/Zoom Presets

Gives the standard cautions and notes that Canon lists in other lens instructions, plus a mention that the optional Extender XL 1.6X is NOT recommended for this wide angle lens.

Lists the specs, most of which are in this article on the content side of DVinfo: http://www.dvinfo.net/canonxlh1/articles/article21.php

Others have had pretty glowing words for the lens, but I just got it and haven't had a chance to do more than load the 1.0.4.0 firmware update (included, with simple-to-follow printed instructions, on a 16MB SD card) to my cameras. It does come in a much nicer zippered soft case than the drawstring cases that accompanied previous lenses. Also in the box were a lens hood, cap, lens cloth, and warranty card.

If you could use a wide lens for your XL H1, I wouldn't worry about waiting to see the instructions. If you've been shooting with XL cameras already, you'll be right at home with this lens. From a useability standpoint, it is a variation on the Canon servo lens theme, with the one big difference being the manual iris ring.

Daniel Epstein · December 26th, 2006, 06:24 PM

Can anyone who has the lens figure out if the new 6X can zoom and be manually focused at the same time? Unlike the 20X

Mike Teutsch · December 26th, 2006, 06:28 PM

As long as your little hands and fingers can do it! It is not servo controlled, it is manual, meaning you, controled. The 20x lens is servo, read motor controlled, the 6x is full manual meaning "you" controlled.

Mike

Pete Bauer · December 26th, 2006, 07:18 PM

Unfortunately, not. This is not a full-manual lens like the 16X, but a servo lens like the 3X and 20X lenses. The difference between AF and Manual Focus is in whether the camera or you tells the lens where to set the focal point, which in either case it does using servos. While you are zooming, the focal point doesn't change because the one servo motor is being used by the zoom.

Mike Teutsch · December 26th, 2006, 07:26 PM

My Bad! :)

I'm thinking 16x again!

Mike

Tim Palmer-Benson · June 21st, 2008, 04:41 PM

Am I right in saying that this lens does not have image stablization...and if so why?

Chris Hurd · June 21st, 2008, 05:24 PM

Image stabilization isn't needed on a wide angle lens, so there's no point in paying for it.

The longer the focal length is, the greater the need for image stabilization. When the field of view is magnified at the telephoto end of the zoom, so too is the amount of unwanted vibration. At wide angles, however, you should already have the ability and skill to hold the camera steady without the need for OIS. Leaving it out of the lens design helps to keep the price low.

Nick Hiltgen · June 22nd, 2008, 10:25 PM

If it makes a difference to you, the lens is NOT suitable for repeatable focus (this is inherent in the servo lenses that canon makes but for some reason there was a rumor out there that you could use it that way, which is not true) SO if you have a follow focus you want to use, setting focus marks will do you little good.

December 26th, 2006, 06:10 AM	#1
Tod Geddes Posts: n/a	XL-H1 6x lens I'm considering purchasing this lens, but would like to see the manual for it before purchasing it... is it available on line or could someone post a copy of it? thanks

December 26th, 2006, 05:52 PM	#7
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Mike is correct about the instructions; they're not really a "manual" but a large sheet with one column per language. Since nobody's found the instructions posted yet, I won't take it upon myself to post a copy on the internet. However, I'll give a quick overview: Describes in very brief and basic terms how to: Mount and unmount the lens and hood. Use the 3 rings (manual focus, zoom, and iris) Set other functions - AF - M - AF Push button - ND Filter - Mode selector (Min Object Dist) - Focus/Zoom Presets Gives the standard cautions and notes that Canon lists in other lens instructions, plus a mention that the optional Extender XL 1.6X is NOT recommended for this wide angle lens. Lists the specs, most of which are in this article on the content side of DVinfo: http://www.dvinfo.net/canonxlh1/articles/article21.php Others have had pretty glowing words for the lens, but I just got it and haven't had a chance to do more than load the 1.0.4.0 firmware update (included, with simple-to-follow printed instructions, on a 16MB SD card) to my cameras. It does come in a much nicer zippered soft case than the drawstring cases that accompanied previous lenses. Also in the box were a lens hood, cap, lens cloth, and warranty card. If you could use a wide lens for your XL H1, I wouldn't worry about waiting to see the instructions. If you've been shooting with XL cameras already, you'll be right at home with this lens. From a useability standpoint, it is a variation on the Canon servo lens theme, with the one big difference being the manual iris ring. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

December 26th, 2006, 06:24 PM	#8
Daniel Epstein Trustee Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,267	Can it Zoom and Manual Focus at the same Time? Can anyone who has the lens figure out if the new 6X can zoom and be manually focused at the same time? Unlike the 20X

December 26th, 2006, 06:28 PM	#9
Mike Teutsch Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Port St. Lucie, Florida Posts: 2,614	As long as your little hands and fingers can do it! It is not servo controlled, it is manual, meaning you, controled. The 20x lens is servo, read motor controlled, the 6x is full manual meaning "you" controlled. Mike __________________ Chapter one, line one. The BH.

December 26th, 2006, 07:18 PM	#10
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Unfortunately, not. This is not a full-manual lens like the 16X, but a servo lens like the 3X and 20X lenses. The difference between AF and Manual Focus is in whether the camera or you tells the lens where to set the focal point, which in either case it does using servos. While you are zooming, the focal point doesn't change because the one servo motor is being used by the zoom. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

December 26th, 2006, 09:28 AM	#3
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Todd, I emailed you about mine. Bruce S. yarock www.yarock.com

December 26th, 2006, 03:46 PM	#6
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Duh.... I missread the title of the post and thought it was about the 16x... Bruce S. Yarock

December 26th, 2006, 07:26 PM	#11
Mike Teutsch Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Port St. Lucie, Florida Posts: 2,614	My Bad! :) I'm thinking 16x again! Mike __________________ Chapter one, line one. The BH.

June 21st, 2008, 04:41 PM	#12
Tim Palmer-Benson Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Morgan, Vermont Posts: 130	Image Stabilization Am I right in saying that this lens does not have image stablization...and if so why? __________________ Wedding and Events Videography www.video-vermont.com

June 21st, 2008, 05:24 PM	#13
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Image stabilization isn't needed on a wide angle lens, so there's no point in paying for it. The longer the focal length is, the greater the need for image stabilization. When the field of view is magnified at the telephoto end of the zoom, so too is the amount of unwanted vibration. At wide angles, however, you should already have the ability and skill to hold the camera steady without the need for OIS. Leaving it out of the lens design helps to keep the price low. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

June 22nd, 2008, 10:25 PM	#14
Nick Hiltgen Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,427	If it makes a difference to you, the lens is NOT suitable for repeatable focus (this is inherent in the servo lenses that canon makes but for some reason there was a rumor out there that you could use it that way, which is not true) SO if you have a follow focus you want to use, setting focus marks will do you little good. __________________ I have a dream that one day canon will release a 35mm ef to xl adapter and I'll have iris control and a 35mm dof of all my ef lenses, and it will be awesome...