Quick Question on H1 HD-SDI Cabling/Monitoring at DVinfo.net
DV Info Net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Canon EOS / MXF / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Canon HDV and DV Camera Systems > Canon XL H Series HDV Camcorders
Register FAQ Today's Posts Buyer's Guides

Canon XL H Series HDV Camcorders
Canon XL H1S (with SDI), Canon XL H1A (without SDI). Also XL H1.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old February 11th, 2006, 12:42 PM   #1
Major Player
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Bloomington, IL
Posts: 256
Quick Question on H1 HD-SDI Cabling/Monitoring

Hi. I'm new to the H1 & HD-SDI.

Is there a recommended cable to be used for connections to other equipment and/or monitors to carry the full bandwidth/reject noise, etc?

Can you simply use a good quality shielded RG-59/RG6 BNC-BNC cable, or is there a more specific cable grade? Also - what are the known transmission limitations for length? I understand the H1 only transmits video on the HD-SDI line. I'd also want to consider the best cable for audio transmission as well.

I'm also looking at picking up a Marshall LCD screen for easier tripod monitoring, and hopefully to gain a better sense of critical focus in the field. It has been recommended many times in the forum to use Component input models over Composite/S-Vid inputs (which makes sense). They (and some other manufacturers) also make more expensive models that utilize HD-SDI inputs. I would think that it would be optimal for use with the H1 (especially considering the fixed length of the proprietary H1 component cable) - however, I'd like to know if there's really a dramatic improvement, realizing that a 7" Marshall monitor has a resolution threshold anyway.

Just wanted to see what people thought or if they've seen small field monitoring via HD-SDI.

Thanks,
Shawn
Shawn Alyasiri is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 11th, 2006, 01:04 PM   #2
Obstreperous Rex
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: San Marcos, TX
Posts: 27,368
Images: 513
See my article at http://www.dvinfo.net/canonxlh1/xlh1...php#difference

"The HD-SDI output requires a high grade coaxial cable, at least an 18 guage RG-6 type such as the Canare brand L-5CFB, for runs of up to 100 meters (330 feet)."
__________________
CH

Search DV Info Net | 20 years of DVi | ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!
Chris Hurd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 11th, 2006, 01:19 PM   #3
Major Player
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Bloomington, IL
Posts: 256
Thanks. I'm having a little difficulty finding the exact cable. Would Canare L-CFB work (which I believe is rated for SDI)?

A link for question & reference:
http://www.tecnec.com/SearchProduct.asp?off=0&sort=prod

Thanks again. Also curious about the monitoring with small field monitors with HD-SDI inputs (benefit or moot).
Shawn Alyasiri is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 11th, 2006, 01:26 PM   #4
Major Player
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Bloomington, IL
Posts: 256
Sorry - I may have re-posted prematurely.

Perhaps this would do it:
http://www.tecnec.com/SearchProduct....f=22&sort=prod

Thanks.
Shawn Alyasiri is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 11th, 2006, 01:26 PM   #5
Major Player
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 540
Chris, do you know it says this at the top of the H1 page?

"What is the XL2?"

KW
Kevin Wild is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 11th, 2006, 01:36 PM   #6
Obstreperous Rex
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: San Marcos, TX
Posts: 27,368
Images: 513
Let's talk about my lack of attention to detail -- fixed. Thanks,
__________________
CH

Search DV Info Net | 20 years of DVi | ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!
Chris Hurd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 26th, 2008, 03:10 PM   #7
Contributor
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: austin, tx
Posts: 300
HD-SDI cable- will RCA with BNC adapters work?

I'm working with an IOHD and a cam with HD-SDI out, and am not sure if using phono (RCA) to BNC adapters on an RCA cable will work for hd-sdi, or if a regular BNC cable will work (from radioshack) or if there is something else i need.

thanks
__________________
Compositing is my life right now.
IMDB page: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3596782/
Austin Meyers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 26th, 2008, 03:24 PM   #8
Obstreperous Rex
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: San Marcos, TX
Posts: 27,368
Images: 513
Sorry Austin, it *must* be an SDI cable. RG-6 is the most common, and suitable for short runs.
__________________
CH

Search DV Info Net | 20 years of DVi | ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!
Chris Hurd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 27th, 2008, 02:07 AM   #9
Contributor
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: austin, tx
Posts: 300
cool, I picked up an RG-59 6' cable from radio shack for about $9 and it worked great. I found a good reference on sdi cables that I'll post up once I hit a computer again (posting from my phone)
__________________
Compositing is my life right now.
IMDB page: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3596782/
Austin Meyers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 23rd, 2008, 12:43 AM   #10
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: toowoomba australia
Posts: 47
sdi output

i am trying to find out what length i can run an sdi cable from our hi's.. we have been asked to do an o.b. in a couple of months and we need to run by cables and the length of the cable run will be about 80 meters... does anyone know the length of cable run with sdi we could use..
ta
Greg Waite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 23rd, 2008, 05:43 AM   #11
Obstreperous Rex
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: San Marcos, TX
Posts: 27,368
Images: 513
About 100 meters without a distribution amp, but it must be RG6 cable or better.

See http://www.extron.com/company/article.aspx?id=hdsdi_ts for more info.
__________________
CH

Search DV Info Net | 20 years of DVi | ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!
Chris Hurd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 23rd, 2008, 07:20 AM   #12
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: toowoomba australia
Posts: 47
Thanks Chris
Greg Waite is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY USA

Scan Computers Int. Ltd.
+44 0871-472-4747
Bolton, Lancashire UK


DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Canon EOS / MXF / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Canon HDV and DV Camera Systems > Canon XL H Series HDV Camcorders


 



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:21 AM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2024 The Digital Video Information Network