Shoulder mount Canon HD cameras dissappearing from retailers at DVinfo.net

Don Parrish · October 11th, 2010, 05:23 AM

I must have been asleep at the switch, B & H and Newegg have both discontinued the XLH1S and A line of camcorders. What's up with that ? Funny thing the SD version XL2 always seems to be available, must have been a lot of leftovers from people waiting for HD cams.

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Newegg.com - xlh1a

Jonathan Palfrey · October 11th, 2010, 08:41 AM

Hopefully this means they will release a shoulder mounted version of the XF305

Willard Hill · October 12th, 2010, 03:46 AM

It is hard to predict what Canon will do at times. They brought the XL-H1 out long before they did a fixed lens HDV camera, but in the case of the transition from HI-8 to mini-DV they dropped the L2 interchangeable lens camera several months before they brought out the XL-1. They did continue manufacturing a black body version, but I don't know for how long they did so. I can't recall the exact model--it was something like LX-2000.

I wrote to them stressing the importance of an interchangeable lens for the serious wildlife videographer, but of course they refused to say as to whether such a model was planned. Now it looks like we are in the same situation again, except it does seem almost certain that one or more interchangeable lens models will soon be announced, but I can't quite understand whey they discontinue the one model before the new one is available.

Glen Vandermolen · October 14th, 2010, 01:14 PM

Yeah, I did notice the missing cameras on B&H's line-up. So, does this mean the end of HDV from Canon?

Michael Galvan · October 15th, 2010, 06:37 AM

Sounds like it.

Whatever the next iteration of the XL series will be, it will most likely use their XF codec and be tapeless.

Pete Bauer · October 15th, 2010, 06:57 AM

No doubt tapeless is the way of the future, but the XL cameras still show as current on the Canon web site.

I don't know why it shows as discontinued at B&H, although it has happened before (recently) that there was an erroneous "discontinued" entry on their web site (See: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdc...continued.html). I suppose it is possible, but I really doubt that the XL is being discontinued by Canon at this time.

There's ALWAYS something in the pipeline and Canon does not typically pre-announce more than a couple months. Even the XF 100/105 announcement was unusually long-lead for Canon.

We'll just have to wait and see.

Chris Hurd · October 15th, 2010, 07:40 AM

The new 100 series announcement was definitely a long lead,
which is uncharacteristic for Canon USA. That happened only
because of the once-every-five-years Canon Expo. Without it,
the announcement would not have been made until November
or December at the earliest.

As long as the product pages for XL H series cameras appear
on the Canon USA web site -- which they do as of today -- then
they are most definitely *not* discontinued. Hope this helps,

Pete Bauer · January 5th, 2011, 05:16 PM

...and the time has come.

All XL cameras have disappeared from the Canon Professional Camcorders page, including the XL2 while surprisingly the GL2 is still there. The 6X lens for the XL cameras is also still listed at $3k.

Don Parrish · January 5th, 2011, 05:28 PM

B & H de-listed them from there website a couple of days ago, I guessed something was up.

Michael Galvan · January 5th, 2011, 05:40 PM

Well hopefully a shoulder-mount interchangeable lens HD camcorder is in the near future from Canon.

Colin McDonald · January 5th, 2011, 05:52 PM

Still listed on the UK site Canon Professional Camcorders - Camcorders - Canon UK, but watch this space.

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Range:
XF305
XF300
XF105
XF100
XA10
XL H1S
XL H1A
XH A1s
XH G1s
XL2
XM2

Tony Davies-Patrick · January 6th, 2011, 09:35 AM

Seems like I timed it right...

I used 50% Canon XL camcorders and 50% Canon DSLRs for both of my latest two films in the GlobetrotterWorld series released during 2010, but have recently sold all the XL equipment and lenses, including my prized Canon AF 6X HD lens, and now gone 100% DSLR for 2011.

Don Parrish · January 8th, 2011, 07:02 AM

What is amazing about this whole thing is the lack of used units available. It seems plenty of XLH1 cameras are out there but a search of the southeast reveals no craigslist entries for the XLH1S. Even EBAY has only one listing for an XLH1S, that is amazing.

Jean-Philippe Archibald · January 8th, 2011, 01:50 PM

Don, Are you looking at buying one? I might have an XLH1A in like new condition for sale soon...

Michael Galvan · January 9th, 2011, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Parrish

What is amazing about this whole thing is the lack of used units available. It seems plenty of XLH1 cameras are out there but a search of the southeast reveals no craigslist entries for the XLH1S. Even EBAY has only one listing for an XLH1S, that is amazing.

I am very satisfied with my XLH1S and don't plan to sell it. It could be that people are holding on to them...

October 11th, 2010, 05:23 AM	#1
Don Parrish Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tavares Fla Posts: 541	Shoulder mount Canon HD cameras dissappearing from retailers I must have been asleep at the switch, B & H and Newegg have both discontinued the XLH1S and A line of camcorders. What's up with that ? Funny thing the SD version XL2 always seems to be available, must have been a lot of leftovers from people waiting for HD cams. xlh1s xlh1a Newegg.com - xlh1a

October 12th, 2010, 03:46 AM	#3
Willard Hill Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 191	It is hard to predict what Canon will do at times. They brought the XL-H1 out long before they did a fixed lens HDV camera, but in the case of the transition from HI-8 to mini-DV they dropped the L2 interchangeable lens camera several months before they brought out the XL-1. They did continue manufacturing a black body version, but I don't know for how long they did so. I can't recall the exact model--it was something like LX-2000. I wrote to them stressing the importance of an interchangeable lens for the serious wildlife videographer, but of course they refused to say as to whether such a model was planned. Now it looks like we are in the same situation again, except it does seem almost certain that one or more interchangeable lens models will soon be announced, but I can't quite understand whey they discontinue the one model before the new one is available. __________________ Willard http://pawildlifephotographer.blogspot.com/

October 15th, 2010, 06:37 AM	#5
Michael Galvan Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 775	Sounds like it. Whatever the next iteration of the XL series will be, it will most likely use their XF codec and be tapeless. __________________ www.michaelgalvan.com www.screenanthology.com

October 15th, 2010, 06:57 AM	#6
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	No doubt tapeless is the way of the future, but the XL cameras still show as current on the Canon web site. I don't know why it shows as discontinued at B&H, although it has happened before (recently) that there was an erroneous "discontinued" entry on their web site (See: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdc...continued.html). I suppose it is possible, but I really doubt that the XL is being discontinued by Canon at this time. There's ALWAYS something in the pipeline and Canon does not typically pre-announce more than a couple months. Even the XF 100/105 announcement was unusually long-lead for Canon. We'll just have to wait and see. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

October 15th, 2010, 07:40 AM	#7
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	The new 100 series announcement was definitely a long lead, which is uncharacteristic for Canon USA. That happened only because of the once-every-five-years Canon Expo. Without it, the announcement would not have been made until November or December at the earliest. As long as the product pages for XL H series cameras appear on the Canon USA web site -- which they do as of today -- then they are most definitely not discontinued. Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

October 11th, 2010, 08:41 AM	#2
Jonathan Palfrey Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Torbay, UK Posts: 170	Hopefully this means they will release a shoulder mounted version of the XF305

October 14th, 2010, 01:14 PM	#4
Glen Vandermolen Space Hipster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,596	Yeah, I did notice the missing cameras on B&H's line-up. So, does this mean the end of HDV from Canon?

January 5th, 2011, 05:16 PM	#8
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	...and the time has come. All XL cameras have disappeared from the Canon Professional Camcorders page, including the XL2 while surprisingly the GL2 is still there. The 6X lens for the XL cameras is also still listed at $3k. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

January 5th, 2011, 05:28 PM	#9
Don Parrish Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tavares Fla Posts: 541	B & H de-listed them from there website a couple of days ago, I guessed something was up.

January 5th, 2011, 05:40 PM	#10
Michael Galvan Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 775	Well hopefully a shoulder-mount interchangeable lens HD camcorder is in the near future from Canon. __________________ www.michaelgalvan.com www.screenanthology.com

January 6th, 2011, 09:35 AM	#12
Tony Davies-Patrick Trustee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Worldwide Posts: 1,589	Seems like I timed it right... I used 50% Canon XL camcorders and 50% Canon DSLRs for both of my latest two films in the GlobetrotterWorld series released during 2010, but have recently sold all the XL equipment and lenses, including my prized Canon AF 6X HD lens, and now gone 100% DSLR for 2011. __________________ www.WILDCARP.com www.NIKON.me.uk

January 8th, 2011, 07:02 AM	#13
Don Parrish Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tavares Fla Posts: 541	What is amazing about this whole thing is the lack of used units available. It seems plenty of XLH1 cameras are out there but a search of the southeast reveals no craigslist entries for the XLH1S. Even EBAY has only one listing for an XLH1S, that is amazing.

January 8th, 2011, 01:50 PM	#14
Jean-Philippe Archibald Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saguenay, Québec, Canada Posts: 1,051	Don, Are you looking at buying one? I might have an XLH1A in like new condition for sale soon... __________________ Jean-Philippe Archibald http://www.jparchibald.com - http://www.vimeo.com/jparchib