PAL + NTSC upgrade and vise-versa at DVinfo.net

Matt Ford · February 10th, 2011, 03:07 AM

Looking for a definitive answer.

My Canon pro-dealer says it cannot be done. They have asked Canon UK and Japan and they have never heard of it.

Canon says it an option in their launch material.
I have seen it mentioned in many posts.
I think even Alan Roberts referred to it in his report.
CVP London have offered it to a customer on another forum.

Does anybody have the answer?

Vincent Oliver · February 11th, 2011, 04:45 AM

Simple, get in touch with CVP

Matt Ford · February 11th, 2011, 06:03 AM

Pro-kit asked the horse, Canon UK have never heard of it! but then they also didn't know the spec of the WA when asked either.

If CVP say yes, that does not = a definitive answer!? If someone has had the upgrade, well that would.

Alan Roberts mentions it on page 1 of his report. A collection of yes an no answers does not help anyone, just looking for facts!

So if anybody knows I would appreciate it? I work in the US often and would seriously consider the upgrade.

I will call CVP, I can't get any more confused!

Matt Ford · February 11th, 2011, 06:50 AM

Ok...... CVP said they think its possible but has to go back to Canon.

So I call CPS and am told they are not sure, where did I get my info from... I say Im looking for a definitive answer and please come back with one.. Finally CPS find a man in the basement in a room with no windows and with no friends who says "YES" he can do that....400 euros..

I've suggested they tell the dealers.

I hope this helps others.

Vincent Oliver · February 11th, 2011, 07:02 AM

400 Euros = 338 Pouds + vat no doubt. Sounds expensive hope that guy in the basement has a good set of eyes..

Matt Ford · February 11th, 2011, 07:19 AM

1 min firmware upgrade I bet..

Trond Saetre · February 14th, 2011, 04:22 AM

I asked Canon's Norwegian service center the same question about 2 months ago.
The email I got back stated that I would have to send the XF300/305 to a service center called RCC in Sweden for them to do the modification from NTSC to PAL for a minimum of 400 euro + tax.

Pretty expencive upgrade itself, but still very cheap concidered that the camera has almost a double price tag in Norway compared to the states.

Trond Saetre · April 12th, 2011, 03:55 PM

I have my XF300 upgraded now.
Canon RCC in Sweden did it for me, but at least Canon USA can also perform this upgrade.
After the upgrade, NTSC or PAL is selectable in the menu.

Sam Young · April 13th, 2011, 05:39 AM

I asked the Canon Representative at the Hong Kong Canon showroom here in Hong Kong, who then went up stairs to their service department to ask a Canon technician, and they quoted me $500 USD for a Pal xf100 upgraded to include NTSC. Very expensive, but still cheaper than Europe!

Adrian Evans · April 15th, 2011, 03:59 AM

Does this upgrade modify the camera to be both "PAL and NTSC" or is it "PAL or NTSC".

Trond Saetre · April 15th, 2011, 05:20 AM

After the upgrade, you select NTSC or PAL in the camera's menu.
So to answer your question, the camera becomes PAL AND NTSC.

Werner Graf · April 15th, 2011, 05:22 AM

I just asked last week Canon Wiliich Germany for XF300/305. It is possible to do it from NTSC to PAL and the other way around. You will have both modes foir400 Euros + TAX

http://cpn.canon-europe.com/files/ed..._switching.pdf

Sam Young · April 15th, 2011, 08:52 AM

I wish they'd offer both pal and ntsc to begin with... can't have everything can we...

Adrian Evans · April 15th, 2011, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trond Saetre

After the upgrade, you select NTSC or PAL in the camera's menu.
So to answer your question, the camera becomes PAL AND NTSC.

Thanks, exactly what I wanted to know.

Larry Vaughn · July 24th, 2012, 12:02 PM

I wonder if it's just a menu that they make visible for $500.00

February 10th, 2011, 03:07 AM	#1
Matt Ford Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: London Posts: 53	PAL + NTSC upgrade and vise-versa Looking for a definitive answer. My Canon pro-dealer says it cannot be done. They have asked Canon UK and Japan and they have never heard of it. Canon says it an option in their launch material. I have seen it mentioned in many posts. I think even Alan Roberts referred to it in his report. CVP London have offered it to a customer on another forum. Does anybody have the answer?

February 11th, 2011, 04:45 AM	#2
Vincent Oliver Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chislehurst, London Posts: 1,724	Simple, get in touch with CVP __________________ Eyes are a deaf man’s ears. Ears are a blind man’s eyes

February 11th, 2011, 07:02 AM	#5
Vincent Oliver Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chislehurst, London Posts: 1,724	400 Euros = 338 Pouds + vat no doubt. Sounds expensive hope that guy in the basement has a good set of eyes.. __________________ Eyes are a deaf man’s ears. Ears are a blind man’s eyes

April 12th, 2011, 03:55 PM	#8
Trond Saetre Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 3,375	Re: PAL + NTSC upgrade and vise-versa I have my XF300 upgraded now. Canon RCC in Sweden did it for me, but at least Canon USA can also perform this upgrade. After the upgrade, NTSC or PAL is selectable in the menu.

April 13th, 2011, 05:39 AM	#9
Sam Young Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Dallas, Texas/Hong Kong Posts: 154	Re: PAL + NTSC upgrade and vise-versa I asked the Canon Representative at the Hong Kong Canon showroom here in Hong Kong, who then went up stairs to their service department to ask a Canon technician, and they quoted me $500 USD for a Pal xf100 upgraded to include NTSC. Very expensive, but still cheaper than Europe!

February 11th, 2011, 06:03 AM	#3
Matt Ford Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: London Posts: 53	Pro-kit asked the horse, Canon UK have never heard of it! but then they also didn't know the spec of the WA when asked either. If CVP say yes, that does not = a definitive answer!? If someone has had the upgrade, well that would. Alan Roberts mentions it on page 1 of his report. A collection of yes an no answers does not help anyone, just looking for facts! So if anybody knows I would appreciate it? I work in the US often and would seriously consider the upgrade. I will call CVP, I can't get any more confused!

February 11th, 2011, 06:50 AM	#4
Matt Ford Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: London Posts: 53	Ok...... CVP said they think its possible but has to go back to Canon. So I call CPS and am told they are not sure, where did I get my info from... I say Im looking for a definitive answer and please come back with one.. Finally CPS find a man in the basement in a room with no windows and with no friends who says "YES" he can do that....400 euros.. I've suggested they tell the dealers. I hope this helps others.

February 11th, 2011, 07:19 AM	#6
Matt Ford Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: London Posts: 53	1 min firmware upgrade I bet..

February 14th, 2011, 04:22 AM	#7
Trond Saetre Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 3,375	I asked Canon's Norwegian service center the same question about 2 months ago. The email I got back stated that I would have to send the XF300/305 to a service center called RCC in Sweden for them to do the modification from NTSC to PAL for a minimum of 400 euro + tax. Pretty expencive upgrade itself, but still very cheap concidered that the camera has almost a double price tag in Norway compared to the states.

April 15th, 2011, 03:59 AM	#10
Adrian Evans New Boot Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 19	Re: PAL + NTSC upgrade and vise-versa Does this upgrade modify the camera to be both "PAL and NTSC" or is it "PAL or NTSC".

April 15th, 2011, 05:20 AM	#11
Trond Saetre Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 3,375	Re: PAL + NTSC upgrade and vise-versa After the upgrade, you select NTSC or PAL in the camera's menu. So to answer your question, the camera becomes PAL AND NTSC.

April 15th, 2011, 05:22 AM	#12
Werner Graf Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Zuerich Switzerland Posts: 98	Re: PAL + NTSC upgrade and vise-versa I just asked last week Canon Wiliich Germany for XF300/305. It is possible to do it from NTSC to PAL and the other way around. You will have both modes foir400 Euros + TAX http://cpn.canon-europe.com/files/ed..._switching.pdf

April 15th, 2011, 08:52 AM	#13
Sam Young Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Dallas, Texas/Hong Kong Posts: 154	Re: PAL + NTSC upgrade and vise-versa I wish they'd offer both pal and ntsc to begin with... can't have everything can we...

July 24th, 2012, 12:02 PM	#15
Larry Vaughn Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 201	Re: PAL + NTSC upgrade and vise-versa I wonder if it's just a menu that they make visible for $500.00