XA10, G10 vs HV30/40 Comparison? at DVinfo.net

Mark Goodsell · August 14th, 2011, 10:00 PM

Have any of you XA10/G10 owners used or owned the HV30/40 camcorders? Can you give me your thoughts and how they compare (besides the storage medium difference)? I am considering the upgrade. I tried a G10 out in a store and the touch screen seemed to be a PITA to use. But the steady shot was smooth and colors looked great. But in terms of comparison scores, the HV30 still has a pretty sharp picture compared to the G10.

Thanks

Lou Bruno · August 15th, 2011, 07:21 AM

I owned, in the past, the HV30 and HV 40. I now have the XF-100 and the G10.

The G10 blows away the HV30; probably because HDV tends to artifact with fast motion. Also...the dynamic range is MUCH better with the G10. There is a sharpness control in the menu for the G10. The G10 also is far superior in low light than my prior HV30/40.

Buba Kastorski · August 15th, 2011, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Lou Bruno

The G10 blows away the HV30;
Also...the dynamic range is MUCH better with the G10.
The G10 also is far superior in low light than my prior HV30/40.

I 2nd all of the above plus level of manual control is incredible and it's tapeless.

Mark Goodsell · August 15th, 2011, 06:38 PM

Wow! Thanks for the feedback on the G10. Now you've got me thinking. Let me ask you, is the field of view at wide angle on the G10 the same as the HV30/40? I thought I read somewhere that the G10 has a wider view. Or, do you need a WA adapter?

Buba Kastorski · August 16th, 2011, 06:50 AM

G10 is much wider, it's 30.4mm vs HV30/40 is 43.6mm, but I love the look with the 0.7x WA on it

Lou Bruno · August 16th, 2011, 05:44 PM

Here is something I put together while testing the G10. An editor, I never claimed to be :-) This was a test using the VIVID mode and a custom mode with a +2 saturation. I have since lowered the color saturation in the menu and lowered the contrast, which I had crushed too much:

GOLD COAST 2011 - YouTube

Robert Young · August 16th, 2011, 06:43 PM

I think it is a nice look for that sort of content.
A lot of color, a lot of image "pop".
The XA 10 will do it so easily with a little boost to the color sat and the contrast.
And, when you want a flat, high DR image for best color correction in post, just dial it all down a bit :)

Mark Goodsell · August 16th, 2011, 09:03 PM

Looks good. Yeah, the contrast seemed a little high, and a little high on the blacks. But at least you CAN make those adjustments. Thank you for sharing.

Mark

August 14th, 2011, 10:00 PM	#1
Mark Goodsell Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: WI Posts: 367	XA10, G10 vs HV30/40 Comparison? Have any of you XA10/G10 owners used or owned the HV30/40 camcorders? Can you give me your thoughts and how they compare (besides the storage medium difference)? I am considering the upgrade. I tried a G10 out in a store and the touch screen seemed to be a PITA to use. But the steady shot was smooth and colors looked great. But in terms of comparison scores, the HV30 still has a pretty sharp picture compared to the G10. Thanks __________________ Mark Goodsell

August 15th, 2011, 07:21 AM	#2
Lou Bruno Go Cycle Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntington, NY Posts: 815	Re: XA10, G10 vs HV30/40 Comparison? I owned, in the past, the HV30 and HV 40. I now have the XF-100 and the G10. The G10 blows away the HV30; probably because HDV tends to artifact with fast motion. Also...the dynamic range is MUCH better with the G10. There is a sharpness control in the menu for the G10. The G10 also is far superior in low light than my prior HV30/40. __________________ Lou Bruno

August 15th, 2011, 06:38 PM	#4
Mark Goodsell Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: WI Posts: 367	Re: XA10, G10 vs HV30/40 Comparison? Wow! Thanks for the feedback on the G10. Now you've got me thinking. Let me ask you, is the field of view at wide angle on the G10 the same as the HV30/40? I thought I read somewhere that the G10 has a wider view. Or, do you need a WA adapter? __________________ Mark Goodsell

August 16th, 2011, 06:50 AM	#5
Buba Kastorski Trustee Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,414	Re: XA10, G10 vs HV30/40 Comparison? G10 is much wider, it's 30.4mm vs HV30/40 is 43.6mm, but I love the look with the 0.7x WA on it Attached Thumbnails __________________ I love this place!

August 16th, 2011, 05:44 PM	#6
Lou Bruno Go Cycle Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Huntington, NY Posts: 815	Re: XA10, G10 vs HV30/40 Comparison? Here is something I put together while testing the G10. An editor, I never claimed to be :-) This was a test using the VIVID mode and a custom mode with a +2 saturation. I have since lowered the color saturation in the menu and lowered the contrast, which I had crushed too much: GOLD COAST 2011 - YouTube __________________ Lou Bruno

August 16th, 2011, 06:43 PM	#7
Robert Young Trustee Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Coronado Island Posts: 1,472	Re: XA10, G10 vs HV30/40 Comparison? I think it is a nice look for that sort of content. A lot of color, a lot of image "pop". The XA 10 will do it so easily with a little boost to the color sat and the contrast. And, when you want a flat, high DR image for best color correction in post, just dial it all down a bit :) __________________ Bob

August 16th, 2011, 09:03 PM	#8
Mark Goodsell Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: WI Posts: 367	Re: XA10, G10 vs HV30/40 Comparison? Looks good. Yeah, the contrast seemed a little high, and a little high on the blacks. But at least you CAN make those adjustments. Thank you for sharing. Mark __________________ Mark Goodsell