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Monday Isa · April 12th, 2010, 10:24 AM

Well I had the inevitable happen to me on Saturday. I was recording with my T2i and with the Card almost full I get a error 02 code. I remove the card to swap cards as I figured I'd recover the files when I get home and sure enough the card is hot. Didn't feel so good about that. Got home and immediately tried to recover files and the card is dead. No reader or device will read the card even to format it. I feel sick in the gut about it. There's about 12mins out of 40mins of important footage on the card and I have contacted Patriot about the situation as the card has a 5yr warranty. My question here is would it be possible that the heat from the camera killed the card? The card was pretty hot when I removed it from the camera. The filming was inside in a air condition location. Thanks everyone.

Monday

Daniel D. Kim · April 12th, 2010, 10:28 AM

Oh NO!! That is horrible!!! I hope there is a way for you to find it back! :(

George Angeludis · April 12th, 2010, 10:39 AM

This is the 2nd Patriot hit. I am really pissed on them as you (even If I will never use one).

Monday Isa · April 12th, 2010, 10:47 AM

The thing though is I don't believe this is a Patriot hit yet. I want to put the blame on them but I think that the heat from the 550D maybe too much at times for any SD Cards. Till I can come to a good conclusion I'm going to use my 550D for only special jobs instead of moving them to Primary use.

George Angeludis · April 12th, 2010, 10:52 AM

I can't believe that the heat is too much to burn a card.

Monday Isa · April 12th, 2010, 11:00 AM

Well it maybe that the card isn't as heat resistant as a Sandisk. I just don't know anything right now and am pretty frustrated that I lost 12mins of very important footage that I may not be able to recover. :'(

George Angeludis · April 12th, 2010, 11:05 AM

Can't you reshoot this?
And this is an unkown info for me about Sandisks.

Monday Isa · April 12th, 2010, 11:21 AM

Nope. Can't be re-shot. I wish it could be. Just to be clear my problem is with this patriot card and not a sandisk one. I'm just nervous shooting with Patriots again for a while till I can pinpoint the possible cause. Thanks George for helping me think this through.

David St. Juskow · April 12th, 2010, 11:22 AM

I think we need more months with the t2i in the field to really judge; my gut instinct would be it's that specific brand, which i never have heard great things about the way i hear great things about Transcend. I haven't experienced that, but I haven't pushed it in a real heavy situation. I guess factors like, how long was the camera running, what were the environmental conditions (lots of air flow? No air flow?) would factor into it. My transcends haven't shown this problem- at most, my camera show the little thermometer icon for a second or two and then goes away. But again, I haven't pushed the limits.

Either way, I know that pain and would buy you a beer if I could!

George Angeludis · April 12th, 2010, 11:32 AM

I think it's not logical to have a card toasted because of a continuous 12 min capture.
I will buy a Verbatim or a Transcend or a Sandisk when I will buy my 550D next month.

Monday Isa · April 12th, 2010, 11:33 AM

Well make it a cappuccino as I don't drink ^_^

The camera was working all day. Prob off and on for 9hrs. From AC location to Outside in the heat. 80degree day. Back to AC location. Air flow was pretty good. There was lots of fog from a fog machine. I may need to just change to transcends but now I'm a little nervous because of this particular situation I guess. I may just have to wait till Panasonic ships their agf100 and just go that route as the cards will be in a better location away from the body heat the camcorder will generate.

George Angeludis · April 12th, 2010, 11:42 AM

As you described it, it seems more like a war than a shooting.
And at war you should get the best weapons.
I mean I don't know if anything will handle those situations.

Monday Isa · April 12th, 2010, 11:47 AM

Well my XHA1 handles it really well. ^_^ In all honesty the fog was for lighting effects which lasted 3minutes at times. The other 2 Patriot cards did fine but the third one I guess died. That's what I'm trying to figure out why it did. I am really bummed out right now.

George Angeludis · April 12th, 2010, 11:53 AM

You can't compare such different sizes. At least from the video's I have seen from 550D it has an outstanding image very close to 16mm film (in terms of color and resolution) and it looks a lot better than HDV. Now to produce something like that @45 mbit in a tiny camera this ain't easy at all. I mean the processor must really be on fire...
But was that this card the last one in the row. Have you used it again?

Monday Isa · April 12th, 2010, 12:01 PM

George for me the two images are different. One is not better than the other but one maybe preferable to the other. I wanted to give the T2i a shot on this particular shoot because I wanted see what type of look it can give me, and also the ease of being tapeless. It was the 2nd card used out of the 3. I have tried using it again and the card is not readable, writable, & can't be formatted. Which leads me to my initial thought that the heat from the camera may have killed this particular card.

April 12th, 2010, 10:24 AM	#1
Monday Isa Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 913	Patriot 16GB Class 10 Well I had the inevitable happen to me on Saturday. I was recording with my T2i and with the Card almost full I get a error 02 code. I remove the card to swap cards as I figured I'd recover the files when I get home and sure enough the card is hot. Didn't feel so good about that. Got home and immediately tried to recover files and the card is dead. No reader or device will read the card even to format it. I feel sick in the gut about it. There's about 12mins out of 40mins of important footage on the card and I have contacted Patriot about the situation as the card has a 5yr warranty. My question here is would it be possible that the heat from the camera killed the card? The card was pretty hot when I removed it from the camera. The filming was inside in a air condition location. Thanks everyone. Monday

April 12th, 2010, 10:39 AM	#3
George Angeludis Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Thessaloniki, Greece. Posts: 179	This is the 2nd Patriot hit. I am really pissed on them as you (even If I will never use one). __________________ My Films My Works FB

April 12th, 2010, 10:52 AM	#5
George Angeludis Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Thessaloniki, Greece. Posts: 179	I can't believe that the heat is too much to burn a card. __________________ My Films My Works FB

April 12th, 2010, 11:05 AM	#7
George Angeludis Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Thessaloniki, Greece. Posts: 179	Can't you reshoot this? And this is an unkown info for me about Sandisks. __________________ My Films My Works FB

April 12th, 2010, 11:32 AM	#10
George Angeludis Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Thessaloniki, Greece. Posts: 179	I think it's not logical to have a card toasted because of a continuous 12 min capture. I will buy a Verbatim or a Transcend or a Sandisk when I will buy my 550D next month. __________________ My Films My Works FB

April 12th, 2010, 10:28 AM	#2
Daniel D. Kim Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NY Posts: 36	Oh NO!! That is horrible!!! I hope there is a way for you to find it back! :(

April 12th, 2010, 10:47 AM	#4
Monday Isa Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 913	The thing though is I don't believe this is a Patriot hit yet. I want to put the blame on them but I think that the heat from the 550D maybe too much at times for any SD Cards. Till I can come to a good conclusion I'm going to use my 550D for only special jobs instead of moving them to Primary use.

April 12th, 2010, 11:00 AM	#6
Monday Isa Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 913	Well it maybe that the card isn't as heat resistant as a Sandisk. I just don't know anything right now and am pretty frustrated that I lost 12mins of very important footage that I may not be able to recover. :'(

April 12th, 2010, 11:21 AM	#8
Monday Isa Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 913	Nope. Can't be re-shot. I wish it could be. Just to be clear my problem is with this patriot card and not a sandisk one. I'm just nervous shooting with Patriots again for a while till I can pinpoint the possible cause. Thanks George for helping me think this through.

April 12th, 2010, 11:22 AM	#9
David St. Juskow Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: new york city Posts: 113	I think we need more months with the t2i in the field to really judge; my gut instinct would be it's that specific brand, which i never have heard great things about the way i hear great things about Transcend. I haven't experienced that, but I haven't pushed it in a real heavy situation. I guess factors like, how long was the camera running, what were the environmental conditions (lots of air flow? No air flow?) would factor into it. My transcends haven't shown this problem- at most, my camera show the little thermometer icon for a second or two and then goes away. But again, I haven't pushed the limits. Either way, I know that pain and would buy you a beer if I could!

April 12th, 2010, 11:33 AM	#11
Monday Isa Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 913	Well make it a cappuccino as I don't drink ^_^ The camera was working all day. Prob off and on for 9hrs. From AC location to Outside in the heat. 80degree day. Back to AC location. Air flow was pretty good. There was lots of fog from a fog machine. I may need to just change to transcends but now I'm a little nervous because of this particular situation I guess. I may just have to wait till Panasonic ships their agf100 and just go that route as the cards will be in a better location away from the body heat the camcorder will generate.

April 12th, 2010, 11:42 AM	#12
George Angeludis Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Thessaloniki, Greece. Posts: 179	As you described it, it seems more like a war than a shooting. And at war you should get the best weapons. I mean I don't know if anything will handle those situations. __________________ My Films My Works FB

April 12th, 2010, 11:47 AM	#13
Monday Isa Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 913	Well my XHA1 handles it really well. ^_^ In all honesty the fog was for lighting effects which lasted 3minutes at times. The other 2 Patriot cards did fine but the third one I guess died. That's what I'm trying to figure out why it did. I am really bummed out right now.

April 12th, 2010, 11:53 AM	#14
George Angeludis Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Thessaloniki, Greece. Posts: 179	You can't compare such different sizes. At least from the video's I have seen from 550D it has an outstanding image very close to 16mm film (in terms of color and resolution) and it looks a lot better than HDV. Now to produce something like that @45 mbit in a tiny camera this ain't easy at all. I mean the processor must really be on fire... But was that this card the last one in the row. Have you used it again? __________________ My Films My Works FB

April 12th, 2010, 12:01 PM	#15
Monday Isa Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: College Park, Maryland Posts: 913	George for me the two images are different. One is not better than the other but one maybe preferable to the other. I wanted to give the T2i a shot on this particular shoot because I wanted see what type of look it can give me, and also the ease of being tapeless. It was the 2nd card used out of the 3. I have tried using it again and the card is not readable, writable, & can't be formatted. Which leads me to my initial thought that the heat from the camera may have killed this particular card.