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Heath McKnight
October 30th, 2004, 11:45 PM
I've been watching a marathon of the top 100 best horror moments on Bravo (www.bravotv.com) and it got me to thinking of the best horror films?

My favorites (in no particular order):

1. The Karloff Frankensteins.

2. Aliens (SCARY).

3. Exorcist.

4. E.T. (don't ask, but it freaked me out at the age of 6, and still haunts me).

5. The Thing (1982).

6. An American Werewolf in London and The Howling.

7. Jaws (it had horror elements).

8. New York Minute with the Olsen Twins (shudder).

9. Texas Chainsaw Massacre (original).

10. The 1970s Invasion of the Body Snatchers with that scary scream at the end!

11. Blade and Blade 2.

12. Dead Alive.

13. The Fly (1986).

14. The Exorcist 3.

And so many more...What about you guys and gals?

heath

John Sandel
October 31st, 2004, 12:42 AM
Boris Karloff once complained that "horror" means "physical revulsion"---better, he thought, to refer to scary movies as "terror films."

Stephen King has observed how easy it is to gross someone out---that's what he resorts to (he said in an interview) when he can't summon his deeper desire: the fine, singing fear the best scary storytelling is capable of instilling.

The Alien is scary because he jumps out at you, but I much prefer what is derided as "psychological" horror. Thus my favorites:

1. "The Haunting" (1963), a near-perfect version of Shirley Jackson's novel.

2. "The Innocents" (1961), the only good adaptation of H.James's shockingly frank "The Turn of the Screw."

3. "The Haunting of M" (1980) an out-of-circulation ghost story by Anna Thomas (shot by Gregory Nava), which I saw in its first theatrical release. This movie has the most frightening reveal of an apparition I've ever seen.

I agree with Heath about "The Exorcist III"---an overlooked picture. There's a gag with a bedsheeted apparition in a hospital lobby that invariably makes audiences gasp; it's an expert set-up.

There are moments in the last half-hour of "To Kill a Mockingbird" (when the kids are walking through the forest alone) that I'll never forget.

I'd include "The Blair Witch Project"; that last shot---the payoff of the shaggy-witch tale---made me jump. But like a dirty joke, it's only effective the first time.

I should add what I think is the scariest non-supernatural movie: "Glengarry Glen Ross," James Foley's adaptation of D.Mamet's play. Watching those desperate salesmen wake to their fates is like crawling past a traffic fatality.

JS

Heath McKnight
October 31st, 2004, 09:47 AM
I meant to write the original Haunting. How about The Changling? SCARY!

heath

Rick Bravo
October 31st, 2004, 12:29 PM
The Exorcist-Good against Pure Evil!

RB

John Hudson
October 31st, 2004, 02:26 PM
Great choices all! Here are some I love in no particular order:

The Evil Dead
THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
PSYCHO
THE EXORCIST
Bride of Frankenstein
Invasion of the Body Snatchers (Remake with Sutherland)
The Birds
The Omen
The Romero Dead Films
Halloween
The Fog
The Last Man on Earth
SCREAM
SE7EN
SLEEPY HOLLOW
The UNIVERSAL Horror Films (Not the one's by S. Sommers)

Scott Ellifritt
October 31st, 2004, 03:03 PM
Here's a few worth contention.

1. Dracula (Bela Lugosi)

2. Carnival of Souls

3. The Exorcist

4. The Legend of Hell House

5. A Nightmare on Elm Street (the first one)

Heath McKnight
October 31st, 2004, 03:12 PM
I read The Legend of Hell House five years ago--SCARY! Movie was good, but not quite as scary.

heath

John Sandel
October 31st, 2004, 03:29 PM
Boy, yeah, I'd forgotten about "The Changeling."

And "The Fog"---there's a moment when Tom Atkins hears someone knock on the front door of his bungalow. Goes to the door---through the glass we see a shadow figure slip out of sight---he sticks his head out into the mist and says "Hello ...?"

Carpenter HOLDS the angle for just a beat longer than we want to watch, to really screw down the tension ... and nothing happens.

I remember letting out my breath in the theater; I forgot to breathe!

JS

Scott Ellifritt
October 31st, 2004, 03:41 PM
I saw "The Fog" twice.

Peter Higginbottom
October 31st, 2004, 03:56 PM
Hi
Never saw "pet sematary" but the book was scary enough for Me.
Does the movie live up to the book?

Peter.....

Heath McKnight
October 31st, 2004, 04:15 PM
Pet Semetary--never read it, movie scared me bad.

The Fog--I need to see it, and now they're remaking it.

heath

Dylan Couper
October 31st, 2004, 05:36 PM
My pics:
Night Of The Living Dead
both Dawn Of The Deads
Karloff's The Mummy
Alien
Jaws
The Others
the original Haunting
Tremors isn't really a horror movie, but I love it so much I have to add it in.
Wow, so many others... I'll leave it at that.

Oh yeah, even though it is sci-fi, Event Horizon scared the shit out of me in the theater.

Scott Ellifritt
October 31st, 2004, 06:16 PM
Romero's "Night of the Living Dead" - classic 5 stars. I forgot about that one. Savini's remake? ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz!

Heath McKnight
October 31st, 2004, 07:38 PM
I hate to say this, but the original Mummy was a yawner for me...

heath

John Sandel
October 31st, 2004, 08:09 PM
Yeah, it's pretty dated--but the photography! Karl Freund (who also shot Peter Lorre in "Mad Love") got this amazing pearlescent glow from things ... that CU where Karloff's staring into a magic water-bowl, and they have an eye-light on him, is like a painting.

I was scared by the first hour of Alejandro Amenábar's "The Others"---the moonlit mansion interiors were beautifully shot---but the last half-hour was just ... predictable.

And I loved "The Sixth Sense," even before the twist ending.

JS

Michael Westphal
October 31st, 2004, 08:12 PM
Poltergeist scared the crap out of me. And as a kid, I screamed and ran out of the theatre crying at some dinosaur movie. I've never seen it again, and don't remember the name...

Scott, so Pascagoula is too big for Mississippi? Just center it in the USA?
(I was born in P'goula)

Dylan Couper
October 31st, 2004, 08:50 PM
<<<-- Originally posted by Michael Westphal : Poltergeist And as a kid, I screamed and ran out of the theatre crying at some dinosaur movie. I've never seen it again, and don't remember the name...
-->>>

Was it Land Before Time?


Sorry, I couldn't resist. :)


Anyway, I wanted to add Nosferatu to my personal list. And yeah, The Mummy isn't the most exciting or scary horror movie ever, but something draws me to it. I dunno, maybe I'm strange.


And as for Savini's '90 remake of NOTLD, it isn't the original by any means, but I do like it. It's better than 98% of the zombie films out there, but it's hard to judge it against THE zombie film of all time.

John Sandel
October 31st, 2004, 09:25 PM
Which "Nosferatu," Dylan? Murnau's or Herzog's remake?

"Dead Ringers" is more about psychological breakdown than supernatural horror, but it's pretty creepy.

JS

Heath McKnight
October 31st, 2004, 11:06 PM
Just finished watching The Fog with 2 minutes to spare before Halloween was over. SCARY! Forget the remake, though...

heath

Dylan Couper
October 31st, 2004, 11:52 PM
<<<-- Originally posted by John Sandel : Which "Nosferatu," Dylan? Murnau's or Herzog's remake?

-->>>

The original with Max Schreck. I confess I have not seen the remake.

Shawn Mielke
November 1st, 2004, 03:09 AM
Herzog's remake is fantastic. Most beautiful vampire film ever rendered.
Forget Coppola's Crapula. Tiresome, overwrought.

Strange and frightening films I favor:

Herzog's Nosferatu (1979)

Begotten, (1991) by E. Merhige

films by The Brothers Quay (collection of shorts, Institute Benjamenta)

The Fall Of The House Of Usher (1928, mind, by Jean Epstein, with help from Bunuel; wild stuff!)

Vampyr (1932, by Carl Theodor Dreyer. eerie, dreamlike)

Tetsuo: The Iron Man, (1989) by Shinya Tsukamoto

Scott Ellifritt
November 1st, 2004, 03:58 AM
Hey Michael,

Yes, right in the heart of Kansas! You were born here and I am stuck here (at least for the time being). What's going on in BR that would make you leave such an exciting town?

Robert Mann Z.
November 1st, 2004, 09:05 AM
a lot of the movies mentioned were very good here are some more recent good ones,

Session 9
Pitch Black
Event Horizon (poor ending)
the others

Heath McKnight
November 1st, 2004, 09:13 AM
Definitely good picks. Event Horizon scared me pretty good, it's a bit under-rated.

heath

John Sandel
November 1st, 2004, 09:31 AM
Now that October's done, do we have to change the subject to the most frightening presidential elections ...?

I haven't seen "Tetsuo," but I've heard it's comparable in its strangeness to "Eraserhead."

"Begotten" struck me wrong, I think: amateurish, tedious in parts. But very much Merhige's own, interior poetic vision. (His "Shadow of the Vampire," a conflation of Murnau and his myth, was pretty innocuous.)

The Quay brothers are amazing. I wouldn't call their mood "horror," but there's definitely something unsettling about the dreamlike claustrophobia they cobble together.

Shawn, I've never seen Epstein's "House Of Usher." Is it out on DVD? How's the print?

I liked "Session 9." Their location blew me away---apparently that old hospital was just standing on its grounds, like a ragged derelict ... some of the rooms they shot in required no set-dressing. Brad Anderson's new picture, "The Machinist," looks like it may be pretty strong work.

JS

Scott Ellifritt
November 1st, 2004, 12:52 PM
My wife's favorite is "The Birds." Especially the scene where they found the old person with her eyes plucked out!

Shawn Mielke
November 2nd, 2004, 12:53 AM
Hi John.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005ABVH/qid=1099369245/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/002-0100329-3840022?v=glance&s=dvd

The printer of Usher is plenty watchable, and the medieval music used as score is a good part of what makes this film so incredible to watch. A must own, for me at least! The most modern film to come out of the twenties I've ever seen.


My above list was partly a liberty taken to present some interesting films not usually mentioned in a lot of circles, and indeed, I don't feel terribly partial to many horror genre films, so I did what I could to contribute here.
Upon this reflection, films that have creeped me out over the years are as follows...

more recently:

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, the original

jesus, this film is so rough and raw and f**ked up, it's admirable (from a distance).

American Psycho

Very very disturbing and scary. Young Mr. Bale has my utmost respect. Because of him am I curious in The Machinist. Talk about an underrated film.
Brilliant.

Angel Heart

Somehow, all of the films I've mentioned are period films. The 70s, the 80s, and, with Angel Heart, the 40s and 50s. This film, while utilizing some little-too- obvious sound-derived atmospherics, threw me for a loop, because of such grounded performances from Rourke and Bonet, and because of such detailed work with New Orleans and voodoo images.

Hellraiser

This one, and it's worthwhile sequel, had me intrigued as a teenager. The puzzle box, the sense of transition into otherworldliness when it finally opened, and the exploration of judgement and soul. The most striking monsters I've seen in these kinds of films.

The Shining

Probably the first scary film I'd ever seen. The most memorable at any rate.
Those twin girls appearing everywhere! Running scared through the snow covered maze at night. Dead woman in the tub. A benchmark for me as a very budding film enthusiast.

Roger Moore
November 3rd, 2004, 11:10 PM
CANDYMAN
CANDYMAN
CANDYMAN
CANDYMAN
CANDYMAN

(waits)

Dylan Couper
November 3rd, 2004, 11:32 PM
Roger, make sure you post again tomorrow, just so we know you are safe....

Christopher C. Murphy
November 4th, 2004, 05:56 AM
Any Horror film that doesn't use computers is what I like...

Halloween scared the crap out of me when I was like 9 years old. My parents wouldn't let me watch it, so I snuck into the living room and hide behind the couch while they watched it. I remember being SOOO scared and wishing I'd never seen it. How terrifiying is that?? You're 9 years old and you can't tell your mommy you're scared of something because you'll get into trouble!! It's like 2 nightmares in 1!

Halloween's the best. The scene where she stabs him in the eye with the coat hanger - then she sits in the doorway. You seem him in the background out of focus sit up and turn towards her (us!). That is CLASSIC horror...you see something the actor doesn't and start yelling at the screen. Also, you feel like he's after you because the angle of the shot is such that he's looking directly at YOU and her!!

Any raw pre-computer age Horror is great!

Murph

Heath McKnight
November 4th, 2004, 07:33 AM
I guess I fit in the category of not liking Candyman, sorry. Just didn't scare me...

heath

Jose di Cani
November 7th, 2004, 05:45 PM
scariest movies:

when I was 12:

1) the exorcist
2) jaws 1 to 9

when I was 25:

1) silence of the lambs
2) mickey mouse in playboyland

Heath McKnight
November 7th, 2004, 10:04 PM
Jaws 1 - 9?

heath

John Sandel
November 7th, 2004, 10:55 PM
Joke.

JS

Jose di Cani
November 8th, 2004, 04:45 PM
spanish joke

I lost count with the jaws movies. The same with the well articulating sylvester stalone ' rocky' movies.

I really liked how sylvester acted in the first ROCKy movie. Then in his later movies he freezed up and he became a commercial actor.

All of the Arnold zwarsnegger's movies are about horror. It is just so damned horrible to have to listen to arnold talk. His acting is worse than clinton smoking a joint.

John Sandel
November 8th, 2004, 05:17 PM
At least my Governator inhales when he speaks.

Sorry--off-topic ...

JS

Dylan Couper
November 8th, 2004, 07:19 PM
<<<-- Originally posted by Jose di Cani :
All of the Arnold zwarsnegger's movies are about horror. It is just so damned horrible to have to listen to arnold talk. His acting is worse than clinton smoking a joint. -->>>

So? He kicks ass.

Chris Hurd
November 8th, 2004, 07:33 PM
Throw me down for Dario Argento's "Suspiria (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076786/)" from 1977. Best. Horror. Ever.

Gotta love the soundtrack, the M.C. Escher-inspired art direction, and Jessica Harper.

Just thinkin' about it gives me the willies -- wooo!

Heath McKnight
November 8th, 2004, 11:31 PM
Chris,

Don't forget about the Technicolor craziness!

heath

Mathieu Ghekiere
November 10th, 2004, 02:59 PM
Next to some great movies mentioned here (The Shining, Jaws, Se7en,...) I would like to add RINGU, the first Japanese original.
Great mood, perfect music,creepy sound effects and a twist at the end that kept me up all night :-)

I thought My Little Eye was good to, especially that everything was filmed through the eyes of the camera. Shame they made the last part like a slasher triller.

John Sandel
November 10th, 2004, 04:09 PM
I agree about "Ringu"---that ending gve me a start. The (Japanese) sequel was not very interesting, nor was the American remake.

Has anybody seen "Saw" ...?

JS

Dimitri De Keukelaere
February 18th, 2005, 04:33 PM
1. IT: the scariest thing to do is to make a clown into a monster real freaky shit i couldnt sleep for days when i was a kid

2.the sixt sense: that movie blew me away .the scenes with the woman who sliced her wrists was just 'pissing in my pants'' scene

3 also E.T :-) : the first half hour was shitting in my pants.actually after the first shot of et's finger i would just stop the vcr.another scene i would shit my pants was when that kid was waiting outside in the garden ,wow man coulndt get any scarier.

and fourth but not least, Candyman: no words for this one :-)

John Locke
February 19th, 2005, 01:05 AM
1. "The Shuttered Room"... at least until the last 15 minutes when it gets a bit cheesy. (I'm betting no one here's ever seen it--I've yet to meet anyone who has. It must be one of the first uses of handheld jittercam to illustrate the POV of the monster/thing)
2. Cocteau's "La Belle et la Bęte" - not a horror film, but pretty eery imagery just the same
3. Some black and white made-for-TV movie that came out in the 60s where a man gets trapped in a department store at night and the mannequins come to life -- anyone remember that?
4. Audition

Robert Knecht Schmidt
February 19th, 2005, 08:45 AM
Sorry, Chris, Suspiria is on the list of films you couldn't pay me to see again, along with Roman Polanski's Repulsion.

Though I'll see anything by Argento once.

Paul Tauger
February 19th, 2005, 01:35 PM
<<<-- Originally posted by John Sandel : I agree about "Ringu"---that ending gve me a start. The (Japanese) sequel was not very interesting, nor was the American remake.

Has anybody seen "Saw" ...?

JS -->>>
I saw Saw (saw2?) last night. One of the stupider films, IMHO, but with good production values and well-shot.

Heath McKnight
February 19th, 2005, 10:05 PM
If I'm not mistaken, most horror films released these days start strong and end weak. That's what I've heard.

hwm

John Sandel
February 19th, 2005, 10:17 PM
John, was that the one where Gig Young was driving around in a convertible T-Bird, trying to save his career? In the end he wound up at a decrepit New England mansion and there were lots of POV shots through boarded up windows? And Oliver Reed succumbed to the "horror out of space," or some such hooey?

John Locke
February 19th, 2005, 11:50 PM
Ding ding ding! Tell him what he's won, Dan. A pair of white loafers just like Gig Young wears in the movie.

It's definitely got a 60s cheese element to it...but something about those handheld POV shots of something watching is pretty creepy (until you find out what it is).

P.S. I wonder if Gig's motivation was to save his career...or to co-star with Carol Lynley? And I agree...Oliver Reed definitely doesn't seem to fit in with the other New England bumpkins.

Rob Lohman
February 20th, 2005, 03:58 AM
My stuff isn't really horror (not into that), but:

The series "V", I was pretty young, and never saw anything like
that!

The last time was with the movie "Event Horizon". Sci-Fi horror in
space. Saw it in an almost empty theatre at night. Thought I
went to a sci-fi thriller, whoops....

edit: I just read that two others mentioned "Event Horizon" as
well, small world! Dylan C: I know how you felt <g>

Matt Stahley
February 21st, 2005, 02:35 AM
Last House On The Left more of a "terror" film but a classic IMO.

Slumber Party Massacre - another classic trapped in the house run from the power tool killer film.