Canon HDV and Adobe Premiere at DVinfo.net

Giles Buchanan · February 19th, 2007, 07:51 AM

Just got my A1 this morning! Sweet! Waiting for the battery to charge, but I'm wondering, what (if anything) do I have to download to enable the 25f capture from the camcorder?

And can I download it from adobe?

Regards all,

Giles B

P.S. anything else you guys reccomend I do to prepare my camera... E.g. I've read a lot about turning off AGC, things like that....

Robert Garvey · February 20th, 2007, 10:36 PM

Giles you have probably already done this by now (just seen your post). But there is a new preset at the Adobe site for PP2 and your pal 25f. Once installed as per instructions your option becomes available in the 'new project' area.

Cheers,

Sundar Ramamoorthy · April 23rd, 2007, 11:17 AM

Is anyone using Adobe Premiere 3.0 for PP ?
I notice that if I choose to export as 1080 24p, it takes a Gig of space for a couple of minutes of shoot. Is there anyway to compress, but not loose quality.

Also I noticed that, if I shoot in 24F mode, panning produces very choppy pictures (even if my shutter speed is more than 1000), although still videos are excellent. How to avoid this?

Thanks
Sundar Ramamoorthy

Don Palomaki · April 23rd, 2007, 11:36 AM

Faster shutter makes for even more choppy video (strobe-like effect). Try a slower shutter, like 1/48 - 1/60 or so. The slight motion blurr will tend to smooth out the motion.

Learn from what works in the movies: you do not see fast pans or tilts, and when you do, they tend to look terrible.

Mark Fry · April 24th, 2007, 10:30 AM

If you like pans, tilts and fast motion then 50i/60i is your friend. If you want 24p then you must compromise on the motion in your "motion pictures". Of course we'd all like 50p/60p but that's a whole different budget!

Maksim Yankovskiy · April 25th, 2007, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundar Ramamoorthy

Is anyone using Adobe Premiere 3.0 for PP ?

Isn't PPro3 still a pre-order? It's listed as a pre-order on adobe.com.

David Warren · April 25th, 2007, 07:03 PM

maybe he means premiere elements 3?

Adam La Prade · April 25th, 2007, 10:32 PM

You can download a free prerelease of Premiere Pro CS3 from http://labs.adobe.com

David Warren · April 25th, 2007, 11:42 PM

does it have any advantages over premiere pro 2.0?

Brian Brown · April 25th, 2007, 11:49 PM

Due to licensing, there is no HDV support with the PPro's CS3 free prerelease. So I haven't bothered with it, although I am looking forward to the real release of the new suite this summer because of the inclusion of the ex-DV Rack monitoring and capturing software, time re-mapping, and a few other enhancements/ features to all of the software titles.

Sundar, check your export codec and settings. There's soooo many different ways to encode, from HDV (~12GB per hour) to uncompressed (1.2 GB per second).

Brian Brown

Brad Tyrrell · April 26th, 2007, 09:14 AM

I started framserving with DebugMode in PP2 to save space. No problems yet. Works fine with PP3 too.

I'm using Cineform in the PP3 Beta so don't need the HDV function. Frameserving to Tmpgenc Express.

I'm finding PP3 to be much better in handling memory. PP2 would slow to a crawl with Cineform and crash often. PP3 is working fine.

Maksim Yankovskiy · April 27th, 2007, 10:41 AM

I am also very much looking forward to it (Adobe OnLocation) - the DV-Rack renamed Adobe-style. It should be pretty sweet. Of course, it will not have the camera controls of Canon Console software, but the later is a $600 package, which makes OnLocation even more appealing!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Brown

...I am looking forward to the real release of the new suite this summer because of the inclusion of the ex-DV Rack monitoring and capturing software, time re-mapping, and a few other enhancements/ features to all of the software titles.
Brian Brown

Ari Perilstein · April 28th, 2007, 04:10 PM

The first time I connected the A1 through the firewire and then into premeire pro 2.0 I captured with no issues. Ever since then I have been having a major issue. I can capture the image but when I close the capture tool it seems like the clip is indexing and continues to index forever and I cannot see the actual picture. Does anyone know a solution for this? Thanks

Even Solberg · April 28th, 2007, 04:13 PM

Let it finish indexing. It'll take a while, but once it's done you're in business.

Ari Perilstein · April 28th, 2007, 06:28 PM

I tried that..actually let it index overnight and nothing happened. any other ideas? I can't be the only one with this issue am I?

February 19th, 2007, 07:51 AM	#1
Giles Buchanan Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 41	Canon HDV and Adobe Premiere Just got my A1 this morning! Sweet! Waiting for the battery to charge, but I'm wondering, what (if anything) do I have to download to enable the 25f capture from the camcorder? And can I download it from adobe? Regards all, Giles B P.S. anything else you guys reccomend I do to prepare my camera... E.g. I've read a lot about turning off AGC, things like that....

April 23rd, 2007, 11:17 AM	#3
Sundar Ramamoorthy New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cupertino, CA, USA Posts: 8	Adobe Premiere 3.0 and Canon XH A1 Is anyone using Adobe Premiere 3.0 for PP ? I notice that if I choose to export as 1080 24p, it takes a Gig of space for a couple of minutes of shoot. Is there anyway to compress, but not loose quality. Also I noticed that, if I shoot in 24F mode, panning produces very choppy pictures (even if my shutter speed is more than 1000), although still videos are excellent. How to avoid this? Thanks Sundar Ramamoorthy

April 23rd, 2007, 11:36 AM	#4
Don Palomaki Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern VA Posts: 4,489	Faster shutter makes for even more choppy video (strobe-like effect). Try a slower shutter, like 1/48 - 1/60 or so. The slight motion blurr will tend to smooth out the motion. Learn from what works in the movies: you do not see fast pans or tilts, and when you do, they tend to look terrible. __________________ dpalomaki@dspalomaki.com

April 24th, 2007, 10:30 AM	#5
Mark Fry Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 425	If you like pans, tilts and fast motion then 50i/60i is your friend. If you want 24p then you must compromise on the motion in your "motion pictures". Of course we'd all like 50p/60p but that's a whole different budget! __________________ Steam Age Pictures - videos in aid of railway preservation societies.

April 28th, 2007, 04:10 PM	#13
Ari Perilstein New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 13	A1 capture with Premiere Pro 2.0 The first time I connected the A1 through the firewire and then into premeire pro 2.0 I captured with no issues. Ever since then I have been having a major issue. I can capture the image but when I close the capture tool it seems like the clip is indexing and continues to index forever and I cannot see the actual picture. Does anyone know a solution for this? Thanks

February 20th, 2007, 10:36 PM	#2
Robert Garvey Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Western Australia Posts: 100	Giles you have probably already done this by now (just seen your post). But there is a new preset at the Adobe site for PP2 and your pal 25f. Once installed as per instructions your option becomes available in the 'new project' area. Cheers,

April 25th, 2007, 07:03 PM	#7
David Warren Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 61	maybe he means premiere elements 3?

April 25th, 2007, 10:32 PM	#8
Adam La Prade Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 77	You can download a free prerelease of Premiere Pro CS3 from http://labs.adobe.com

April 25th, 2007, 11:42 PM	#9
David Warren Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 61	does it have any advantages over premiere pro 2.0?

April 25th, 2007, 11:49 PM	#10
Brian Brown Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Estes Park, CO USA Posts: 426	Due to licensing, there is no HDV support with the PPro's CS3 free prerelease. So I haven't bothered with it, although I am looking forward to the real release of the new suite this summer because of the inclusion of the ex-DV Rack monitoring and capturing software, time re-mapping, and a few other enhancements/ features to all of the software titles. Sundar, check your export codec and settings. There's soooo many different ways to encode, from HDV (~12GB per hour) to uncompressed (1.2 GB per second). Brian Brown

April 26th, 2007, 09:14 AM	#11
Brad Tyrrell Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Morristown, New Jersey Posts: 249	I started framserving with DebugMode in PP2 to save space. No problems yet. Works fine with PP3 too. I'm using Cineform in the PP3 Beta so don't need the HDV function. Frameserving to Tmpgenc Express. I'm finding PP3 to be much better in handling memory. PP2 would slow to a crawl with Cineform and crash often. PP3 is working fine.

April 28th, 2007, 04:13 PM	#14
Even Solberg Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 106	Let it finish indexing. It'll take a while, but once it's done you're in business. __________________ "Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night." -- Edgar Allan Poe

April 28th, 2007, 06:28 PM	#15
Ari Perilstein New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 13	I tried that..actually let it index overnight and nothing happened. any other ideas? I can't be the only one with this issue am I?