Panasonic 3DA1 vs Sony NX3D1 resolution tests at DVinfo.net

Bruce Schultz · February 20th, 2012, 03:21 PM

I've done resolution tests of the Sony NX3D1 (list $3000) vs Panasonic 3DA1 (list $21,000)

Viewing the pictures it is clear that the 3DA1 holds resolution up to and over the 800 line area of the DSC trumpets. The NX3D1 starts to crap out at about 640 lines. However on the Sony the differences between the Left full resolution vs Right delta resolution when resolved are insignificant.

Just thought it might be of some interest here.

Jim Michael · February 21st, 2012, 07:08 AM

Yes, very useful. Thanks for putting this up Bruce. Hopefully someone with a Z10k will be able to do a similar test.

Bruce Schultz · February 21st, 2012, 04:49 PM

You are not the first person to mention the Z10K in this regard. There is one floating around my area & I'm trying to get my hands on it for a day to do a similar resolution test.

Stay tuned. . .

Neil Richards · March 1st, 2012, 12:14 PM

Bruce, interesting test, and looking forward to seeing the Z10000 results.

If I was any closer I'd lend you mine, or you could pop over here and I'll buy you a pint while you're setting up :)

Bruce Schultz · March 2nd, 2012, 11:17 AM

Neil, you can do the tests, it's simple. Borrow/rent/buy a DSC chart with resolution trumpets and shoot in progressive to avoid interlacing artifacts. I shot a little zoomed in to get to the chip's sweet spot. Then pull a frame into Photoshop and output to an uncompressed format like TIFF.

I'd be more than interested in seeing the Z10K resolution results, and much as I'd love to share a pint (or two) it's a bit too far for a test this simple.

Eric Olson · March 3rd, 2012, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Schultz

Viewing the pictures...

I think DVINFO may have rescaled your original images. The Sony image is 2080x1386 and the Panasonic image is 2727x1497. What were the sizes of the images you uploaded?

Neil Richards · March 5th, 2012, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Schultz

Neil, you can do the tests, it's simple. Borrow/rent/buy a DSC chart with resolution trumpets and shoot in progressive to avoid interlacing artifacts

Bruce, for the price of a DSC chart over here I could: book a plane ticket, fly over to you, bring the Z10k, stay in some swanky hotel, buy you, me, and any of your friends as much beer as you want, shoot some test pictures using your chart, and then fly back again. And with the change...

Well, I exaggerate a bit but I don't have one (although I should) so I'm looking around to see if anyone has one locally. Happy to shoot the test if I can get hold of a chart - is it the 28R you have there?

Matt Faw · March 8th, 2012, 08:40 PM

Hi Bruce, thanks for posting the tests.

I'm curious about the color difference between the two. Is that an artifact of the test, or are they really that far apart, at the same white balance?

Neil Richards · March 9th, 2012, 01:59 PM

Still trying to source a DSC chart for a Z10k test over here, no luck at my local hire company so have asked at the BBC if they can help out - will let you know.

Bruce Schultz · March 13th, 2012, 06:54 PM

I was able to shoot a resolution chart last weekend with a Z10K and am quite surprised at how well it performed. I'll post the location to view within a few days for those and will have them lined up next to a 3DA1 and NX3D1 for comparison.

Neil Richards · March 14th, 2012, 09:05 PM

Well done Bruce, look forward to seeing the results.

I've not succeeded in getting a DSC Labs chart yet so will be good to see what you found.

Bruce Schultz · March 18th, 2012, 10:32 AM

try using this
ISO 12233 Test Chart
I printed one on my color printer on 8 x 10 photo paper and it held resolution for shooting. The PDF shows a 300 dpi resolution in Photoshop.

Yes, the discrepancy in picture size is my fault because I zoomed in to each chart to get to the resolution trumpets. I double checked that it was still accurate after the zoom and it was because it was a very slight amount of zoom. On the color balance, they were taken under different circumstances and to be fair, this was a resolution test, not a colorimetric test so I didn't take too much care on the color balance.

I'd be curious to get input as to what the general resolution of each camera appears to be by the followers of this thread.

Z10K resolution test will get posted this week.

Anmol Mishra · June 23rd, 2014, 03:12 AM

Just wondering if you ever did the z10k resolution test

February 20th, 2012, 03:21 PM	#1
Bruce Schultz Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Malibu, CA Posts: 480	Panasonic 3DA1 vs Sony NX3D1 resolution tests I've done resolution tests of the Sony NX3D1 (list $3000) vs Panasonic 3DA1 (list $21,000) Viewing the pictures it is clear that the 3DA1 holds resolution up to and over the 800 line area of the DSC trumpets. The NX3D1 starts to crap out at about 640 lines. However on the Sony the differences between the Left full resolution vs Right delta resolution when resolved are insignificant. Just thought it might be of some interest here. Attached Thumbnails

February 21st, 2012, 07:08 AM	#2
Jim Michael Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 895	Re: Panasonic 3DA1 vs Sony NX3D1 resolution tests Yes, very useful. Thanks for putting this up Bruce. Hopefully someone with a Z10k will be able to do a similar test.

February 21st, 2012, 04:49 PM	#3
Bruce Schultz Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Malibu, CA Posts: 480	Re: Panasonic 3DA1 vs Sony NX3D1 resolution tests You are not the first person to mention the Z10K in this regard. There is one floating around my area & I'm trying to get my hands on it for a day to do a similar resolution test. Stay tuned. . .

March 1st, 2012, 12:14 PM	#4
Neil Richards Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Somerset, England Posts: 147	Re: Panasonic 3DA1 vs Sony NX3D1 resolution tests Bruce, interesting test, and looking forward to seeing the Z10000 results. If I was any closer I'd lend you mine, or you could pop over here and I'll buy you a pint while you're setting up :)

March 2nd, 2012, 11:17 AM	#5
Bruce Schultz Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Malibu, CA Posts: 480	Re: Panasonic 3DA1 vs Sony NX3D1 resolution tests Neil, you can do the tests, it's simple. Borrow/rent/buy a DSC chart with resolution trumpets and shoot in progressive to avoid interlacing artifacts. I shot a little zoomed in to get to the chip's sweet spot. Then pull a frame into Photoshop and output to an uncompressed format like TIFF. I'd be more than interested in seeing the Z10K resolution results, and much as I'd love to share a pint (or two) it's a bit too far for a test this simple.

March 8th, 2012, 08:40 PM	#8
Matt Faw Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 139	Re: Panasonic 3DA1 vs Sony NX3D1 resolution tests Hi Bruce, thanks for posting the tests. I'm curious about the color difference between the two. Is that an artifact of the test, or are they really that far apart, at the same white balance?

March 9th, 2012, 01:59 PM	#9
Neil Richards Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Somerset, England Posts: 147	Re: Panasonic 3DA1 vs Sony NX3D1 resolution tests Still trying to source a DSC chart for a Z10k test over here, no luck at my local hire company so have asked at the BBC if they can help out - will let you know.

March 13th, 2012, 06:54 PM	#10
Bruce Schultz Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Malibu, CA Posts: 480	Re: Panasonic 3DA1 vs Sony NX3D1 resolution tests I was able to shoot a resolution chart last weekend with a Z10K and am quite surprised at how well it performed. I'll post the location to view within a few days for those and will have them lined up next to a 3DA1 and NX3D1 for comparison.

March 14th, 2012, 09:05 PM	#11
Neil Richards Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Somerset, England Posts: 147	Re: Panasonic 3DA1 vs Sony NX3D1 resolution tests Well done Bruce, look forward to seeing the results. I've not succeeded in getting a DSC Labs chart yet so will be good to see what you found. Last edited by Neil Richards; March 15th, 2012 at 04:43 AM.

March 18th, 2012, 10:32 AM	#12
Bruce Schultz Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Malibu, CA Posts: 480	Re: Panasonic 3DA1 vs Sony NX3D1 resolution tests try using this ISO 12233 Test Chart I printed one on my color printer on 8 x 10 photo paper and it held resolution for shooting. The PDF shows a 300 dpi resolution in Photoshop. Yes, the discrepancy in picture size is my fault because I zoomed in to each chart to get to the resolution trumpets. I double checked that it was still accurate after the zoom and it was because it was a very slight amount of zoom. On the color balance, they were taken under different circumstances and to be fair, this was a resolution test, not a colorimetric test so I didn't take too much care on the color balance. I'd be curious to get input as to what the general resolution of each camera appears to be by the followers of this thread. Z10K resolution test will get posted this week.

June 23rd, 2014, 03:12 AM	#13
Anmol Mishra Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 401	Re: Panasonic 3DA1 vs Sony NX3D1 resolution tests Just wondering if you ever did the z10k resolution test __________________ mishra.tv Productions A Sydney-based group for dance movement-based video and film productions.