DV-L Fri, 15 Jun 2001 Volume 1 : Number 887
In this issue:
Black & Black
Re: (for Mac) Norton,Techtools,Disk Warrior- what's the best
medicine?
RE: Canopus announces the DVRaptorRT
RE: PAL VCRs
Forget about analogue (was Canopus announces the DVRaptorRT)
RE: AVI vs MPEG
have you shot feature with VX2000/XL1 or similar?
Decks & FCP2 & DVCPro solution!
Decks & FCP2 & DVCPro solution!
Re: dv out movieplayer?
RE: Decks & FCP2 & DVCPRO solution!
removing apple bug from iDVD
Re: AVI vs MPEG
Sonic Solutions
Re: DV-L V1 #886
Case for PD-150...answer
RE: DV-L V1 #886
Columbia Audio/Video???
RE: DV or DVCAM?
Re: Columbia Audio/Video???
RE: DV or DVCAM?
RE: Columbia Audio/Video???
RE: Columbia Audio/Video???
Re: AVI vs MPEG
Re: DV-L V1 #886
Re: Columbia Audio/Video???
Re: Columbia Audio/Video???
Re: Wide Angle Matte Boxes
Arrogant Filmmakers
RE: Arrogant Filmmakers
Fun with flip books
DV Raptor RT What inputs and outputs ???
Re: DV Raptor RT What inputs and outputs ???
Re: Arrogant Filmmakers
Re: DV Raptor RT What inputs and outputs ???
Re: DV-L V1 #886
Re: (for Mac) Norton,Techtools,Disk Warrior- what's the best medicine?
Re: Users of RT2X/Storm/DV500
RE: Columbia Audio/Video???
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:36:50 +1200
From: "Al Grant"
To:
Subject: Black & Black
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Hi All,
Today I rendered a little title sequence in After Effects.
It had a Black Background (say that fast).
When I imported it into Premier and rerendered it and played them side =
by side
the black in the premier version was not as black as the After Effects =
version.
Premier looked like it had too much contrast? Why?
Also Premier had to rerender it, I assume because uncompressed AVI is =
not
the same as DV Format?
Cheers
- Al
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Hi All,
Today I rendered a little title = sequence in After=20 Effects.
It had a Black Background (say that=20 fast).
When I imported it into Premier and = rerendered it=20 and played them side by side
the black in the premier version was = not as black=20 as the After Effects version.
Premier looked like it had too much = contrast?=20 Why?
Also Premier had to rerender it, I = assume because=20 uncompressed AVI is not
the same as DV Format?
Cheers
- Al
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 03:52:44 -0400
From: Keith
To:
Subject: Re: (for Mac) Norton,Techtools,Disk Warrior- what's the best
medicine?
Message-ID:
On 6/13/01 8:14 PM, jhogg got thrown off a skyscraper and screamed:
> I've been using Techtool for more than a year now. I switched over from
> Norton when I realized how much money I spent on upgrades. TT offers more
> free upgrades that not only keep it compatible with latest versions of
> OS, but also add features. Not with Norton. Still I think Norton is a
> good utility software, and its optimizer is faster than TT's. I've only
> heard about the strengths and power of Disk Warrior, so I don't have
> first hand knowledge of it. Still it sounds good. Alsoft's optimization
> software PlusOptimizer is quite good.
>
> I know it seems like a lot of money to buy a utility program, especially
> when you don't have much money and a utility program doesn't help you
> create anything. Still it is the best thing you can have on your hd, as
> we all have learned the hard way.
Except for the fact that TTP seems to have trouble optimizing disks. I
wanted to optimize my 37-gig DV drive on my B&W, but TTP gave me an error
message saying that there wasn't enough room (or something like that) to
optimize the files. There were 19 gigs or so left on this drive. Yet it
optimized my 6-gig startup drive just fine, and that had only a gig and a
quarter free. Go figure.
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:14:33 +1000
From: "dfboy"
To:
Subject: RE: Canopus announces the DVRaptorRT
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My advice is forget about analogue now! You are just prolonging the =
agony by maintaining support for analogue video devices and analogue =
tape formats aka vhs. Consider the following:
1. Material shot using the DV format is ideally suited for delivery as =
MPEG 2 files via DVD
2. DVD authoring programs such as Sonic DVDIt! LE are under USD$300 and =
much less if bundled with MPEG 2 NLE
3. The Pioneer DVD-R is around USD$1000
4. The Phillips DVD-RW Recorder is around USD$3000
5. DVD-R media is
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Canopus announces the DVRaptorRT
Message-ID:
If you already have what it takes to actually attract paying clients, =
then I
think you've outgrown the RaptorRT - I think you owe it to your clients =
to
get yourself the Storm, RexRT, or something even better.
Yes, no analog input is a nuisance - but so is paying more money for the
convenience and you just can't have both (not now, anyway).
Randy Quimpo
-----Original Message-----
From: Elie [mailto:ezakaria@home.com]
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My advice = is forget about=20 analogue now! You are just prolonging the agony by maintaining support = for=20 analogue video devices and analogue tape formats aka vhs. Consider the=20 following:
1. Material shot using the DV format is = ideally=20 suited for delivery as MPEG 2 files via DVD
2. DVD authoring programs such as Sonic = DVDIt! LE=20 are under USD$300 and much less if bundled with MPEG 2 NLE
3. The Pioneer DVD-R is around=20 USD$1000
4. The Phillips DVD-RW Recorder is = around=20 USD$3000
5. DVD-R media is
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: Canopus announces the DVRaptorRT
Message-ID:=20
If you already have what = it takes to=20 actually attract paying clients, then I
think you've outgrown the = RaptorRT -=20 I think you owe it to your clients to
get yourself the Storm, RexRT, = or=20 something even better.
Yes, no analog input is a nuisance - but = so is=20 paying more money for the
convenience and you just can't have both = (not now,=20 anyway).
Randy Quimpo
-----Original = Message-----
From: Elie=20 [mailto:ezakaria@home.com]
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:42:56 +1000
From: "dfboy"
To:
Subject: RE: PAL VCRs
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You don't say what tape format but I'll assume you are talking VHS, =
right? There are a number of VCRs with PAL<>NTSC standards conversion =
built in, but the quality is only suitable for consumer use eventhough =
they are digital conversions (VHS quality!!):
Panasonic W1
Samsung SV5000W & SV7000W
It would be cheaper to buy a PAL VCR which has NTSC recording and =
playback via the AV sockets and buy a standalone Standards Converter. =
They are under USD$500 for one with 8Mbit memory and only USD$200 with =
4Mbit memory (Composite input/output only). These are manufactured by =
CYP and the models are CDM-820 (S-Video in/out) and CDM-630 (Comp. =
in/out). Not sure where to purchase in US. Do a search.=20
Of course if money is no object companies like Prime image =
www.primeimageinc.com have standards convertors on a PC card for around =
USD$1000 and up depending on how many fields motion compensation you =
want, adaptive comb filters etc. But for VHS, probably not worth the =
money.
dfboy
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:57:28 -0600
From: Nathan White
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: PAL VCRs
Message-ID: <744756312232D51190B000A0C94970A1029D95@LYRA>
I am looking for a vcr that will allow me to connect pal or ntsc =
equipment,
playback and record in either format (must have built in converter) . =
Does
anyone have any suggestions on where to look or a model they would
recommend?
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You don't say what tape format but I'll = assume you=20 are talking VHS, right? There are a number of VCRs with PAL<>NTSC=20 standards conversion built in, but the quality is only suitable for = consumer use=20 eventhough they are digital conversions (VHS quality!!):
Panasonic W1
Samsung SV5000W & = SV7000W
It would be cheaper to buy a PAL VCR = which has NTSC=20 recording and playback via the AV sockets and buy a standalone Standards = Converter. They are under USD$500 for one with 8Mbit memory and only = USD$200=20 with 4Mbit memory (Composite input/output only). These are manufactured = by CYP=20 and the models are CDM-820 (S-Video in/out) and CDM-630 (Comp. in/out). = Not sure=20 where to purchase in US. Do a search.
Of course if money is no object = companies like=20 Prime image www.primeimageinc.com=20 have standards convertors on a PC card for around USD$1000 and up = depending on=20 how many fields motion compensation you want, adaptive comb filters etc. = But for=20 VHS, probably not worth the money.
dfboy
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:57:28 -0600
From: Nathan White =
To:=20 DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: = PAL=20 VCRs
Message-ID: <744756312232D= 51190B000A0C94970A1029D95@LYRA>
I=20 am looking for a vcr that will allow me to connect pal or ntsc=20 equipment,
playback and record in either format (must have built in=20 converter) . Does
anyone have any suggestions on where to look or a = model=20 they=20 would
recommend?
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Yes, its possible to forget about analogue. I made this commitment over two years ago when I assumed my position as Corporate Video manager over here, and the only time our footage goes analogue is when we output to VHS, which we are in the process of phasing out right now as I write this. Our department refuses to accept any footage that's not DV (Digital 8 is still possible, because of the firewire connect). We shoot in dv, edit in dv, and output in dv -soon we will be distributing in DVD. When I need footage from an analogue source, I just dub it to DV and digitize that, no probs.
But that's me - I control this for our company. Other people have to take in whatever their clients bring in, which in many cases is good ol' video 8. So these guys can't forget about analogue even if they wanted to. I even know studios that maintain Betamax machines just in case.
Randy Quimpo
-----Original Message-----
From: dfboy [mailto:dfor@bigpond.net.au]
My advice is forget about analogue now! You are just prolonging the agony by maintaining support for analogue video devices and analogue tape formats aka vhs.
dfboy
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:07:53 +1000
From: "dfboy"
To:
Subject: RE: AVI vs MPEG
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Are you talking MPEG 1 , MPEG 2 , MPEG 4 etc? A number of cards capture =
directly in MPEG 2 format (for DVD) but these are used for converting =
previously edited and conformed video material and basically feature any =
in and any out transcoders as besides DV firewire inputs the companies =
requiring MPEG 2 capture usually want SDI input. To sum up this =
equipment is very costly. Companies that provide this gear include Wired =
Inc, Minerva, Optibase.
However, for under USD$10,000 Pinnacle Systems have the DVD1000 & 2000 =
cards with DV input option but I believe there is still conversion of =
AVI to MPEG2 involved here.=20
If you are talking MPEG 1 capture there are cards such as Broadway by =
Data Translation www.b-way.com but this doesn't have firewire input. =
This has a direct to MPEG 1 capture mode as well as an AVI capture mode =
for editing. To capture MPEG 4 is easiest and cheapest. Just buy an =
Osprey capture card (DV2000 has firewire input) and download the free =
Windows Media Encoder and tools from Microsoft to set up a live webcast =
in windows streaming media format and the ASF file is MPEG 4! Depending =
on the stream rate, upwards of 300kbits per second is good quality but =
at 600kbits/sec its very nice =3D well approaching VHS anyway. MPEG 4 is =
the future of digital video on the next generation web.
dfboy
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:18:47 -0700
From: "Paul Michel"
To:
Subject: AVI vs MPEG
Message-ID: <003901c0f37c$e35bea80$4fc41f0a@arrow.com>
Anyone know of a reliable DV to MPEG capture system via Firewire? I've
used
both MGI and Ulead with a std IEEE1394 card and cable. They both capture
in
AVI and can then convert to MPEG. The AVI files are HUGE. From what I've
been reading, you can only capture direct to MPEG via analog. Is that
true?
Would the resolution in an MPEG clip converted from AVI be noticeably
better
that one recorded direct to MPEG? Thanks for your input everyone....
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Are you talking MPEG 1 , MPEG 2 , MPEG = 4 etc? A=20 number of cards capture directly in MPEG 2 format (for DVD) but these = are used=20 for converting previously edited and conformed video material and = basically=20 feature any in and any out transcoders as besides DV firewire inputs the = companies requiring MPEG 2 capture usually want SDI input. To sum up = this=20 equipment is very costly. Companies that provide this gear include Wired = Inc,=20 Minerva, Optibase.
However, for under USD$10,000 Pinnacle = Systems have=20 the DVD1000 & 2000 cards with DV input option but I believe there is = still=20 conversion of AVI to MPEG2 involved here.
If you are talking MPEG 1 capture there = are cards=20 such as Broadway by Data Translation www.b-way.com but this doesn't have = firewire=20 input. This has a direct to MPEG 1 capture mode as well as an AVI = capture mode=20 for editing. To capture MPEG 4 is easiest and cheapest. Just buy an = Osprey=20 capture card (DV2000 has firewire input) and download the free = Windows=20 Media Encoder and tools from Microsoft to set up a live webcast in = windows=20 streaming media format and the ASF file is MPEG 4! Depending on the = stream rate,=20 upwards of 300kbits per second is good quality but at 600kbits/sec its = very nice=20 =3D well approaching VHS anyway. MPEG 4 is the future of digital video = on the next=20 generation web.
dfboy
Date: Tue, 12=20 Jun 2001 13:18:47 -0700
From: "Paul Michel"
To:
Subject: AVI vs = MPEG
Message-ID:=20 <003901c0f37c$e35bea80$4fc41f0a@arrow.com>
Anyone know of a reliable = DV to MPEG=20 capture system via Firewire? I've
used
both MGI and Ulead with a = std=20 IEEE1394 card and cable. They both capture
in
AVI and can then = convert to=20 MPEG. The AVI files are HUGE. From what I've
been reading, you can = only=20 capture direct to MPEG via analog. Is that
true?
Would the = resolution in=20 an MPEG clip converted from AVI be noticeably
better
that one = recorded=20 direct to MPEG? Thanks for your input=20 everyone....
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:45:37 +0200
From: "Info"
To:
Subject: have you shot feature with VX2000/XL1 or similar?
Message-ID: <00b001c0f4c3$df3582c0$2cea36c6@csargeant>
hi
i would like to hear from anyone who has experience in shooting a feature
using the Sony VX2000 or Canon XL1 or similar "prosumer" digital camera.
we're about to start on such a project and would like to hear from those
that have already done it. perhaps we can correspond off-post via email.
thanks
regards
clive
Independent Digital
Promoting digital video technology
info@idig.za.net
WWW.IDIG.ZA.NET
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:34:01 +0800
From: "Andy King"
To: "DV-L"
Subject: Decks & FCP2 & DVCPro solution!
Message-ID: <00f601c0f4c5$e93875a0$ddd3e68b@oemcomputer>
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Perry & Jan
Thanks for the info, I should have emailed the list first
as always! 1 day later!
This is going to open up a can of worms,...what decks
would participants of the list recommend to use with FCP 2,
(1.25 if possible as well).
Our sound students use Pro Tools to do Post on films which may
have been shot on DVCPro and edited on PC Media 100 systems
at another uni for starters.
We have no card as yet but will probably buy one in the near future.
If we can free up a slot! RT Mac looks good.
In our department we shoot on mini DV mainly but with time code drop out
on mini DV we would like to move to another format for some projects.
Digital BetaCam is out of the question $$$, as is DVCPro
because of compatibility issues as revealed by Jan & Perry.
Our sound is captured seperately on DAT but we would like
to capture, edit and sync quickly rather than have a group
of us doing the digital hot shoe shuffle!
Any suggestions?
Thanks as always.
Andy King.
Future Producer of the video musical...."Five guys called Digital"
subtitled ........... (Mum, where's my trusty VHS?)
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Perry & Jan
Thanks for the info, I should have = emailed the list=20 first
as always! 1 day later!
This is going to open up a can of = worms,...what=20 decks
would participants of the list = recommend to use=20 with FCP 2,
(1.25 if possible as = well).
Our sound students use Pro Tools to do Post on films which=20 may
have been shot on DVCPro and edited on = PC Media 100 systems
at another uni for = starters.
We have no card as yet but will = probably buy one in=20 the near future.
If we can free up a slot! RT Mac looks=20 good.
In our department we shoot on mini = DV mainly=20 but with time code drop out
on mini DV we would like to = move to=20 another format for some projects.
Digital BetaCam is out of the question = $$$, as is=20 DVCPro
because of compatibility issues as = revealed by Jan=20 & Perry.
Our sound is captured seperately on DAT = but we=20 would like
to capture, edit and sync quickly = rather than=20 have a group
of us doing the digital hot shoe=20 shuffle!
Any suggestions?
Thanks as always.
Andy King.
Future Producer of the video = musical...."Five=20 guys called Digital"
subtitled ........... (Mum, where's my = trusty=20 VHS?)
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:53:25 +0100
From: "Perry"
To: "DV-L"
Subject: Decks & FCP2 & DVCPro solution!
Message-ID:
Andy King:
a few random comments to your last post:
1)You don't say how the Media100 edited programs enter your system? Media100
the NLE is on Mac by the way, When on PC they call it iFinish.
2)RTMac is good if you want to input analog, or get some realtime analog
preview function. It is not necessary to capture and edit DV footage.
3)I presume you mean timecode dropout due to the way the students work. I
recently helped a student friend of my son with his DV project; he had so
many timecode resets that EditDV was struggling to capture anything! I left
him alone with iMovie2 (that I never use) and it did him very well. He
managed some quite sophisticated speed change effects for a complete
beginner. iMovie uses basic DV data stream clips rather than QuickTime.
4)You can always simply dub from MiniDV to MiniDV, and get a nice new
timecode with no generation losses.
5)Why are you capturing sync audio on DAT?
Perry Mitchell
Video Consultant
http://www.perrybits.co.uk
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:03:10 -0400
From: Tim Merritt
To: DV
Subject: Re: dv out movieplayer?
Message-ID: <3B28C41D.F9B27BAC@gsu.edu>
You can get SimpleVideoOut here:
http://developer.apple.com/samplecode/Sample_Code/QuickTime/Capturing/SimpleVideoOut.htm
Description from the download page: "This is an example of using
QuickTimes FireWire video output component to play a DV stream (.dv
movie) out to a DV Camera."
I've used it a little, though with both FCP and iMovie I haven't needed
it. It's a free download from Apple's QuickTime Developer site. Poke
around there; there are some other interesting tools.
--
Tim Merritt
Video/Multimedia Manager
Instructional Technology Center
College of Education
Georgia State University
tmerritt@gsu.edu
http://itc.gsu.edu
404-651-0370 voice
404-651-2460 fax
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:24:08 -0400
From: "Crittenden, Jan"
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: Decks & FCP2 & DVCPRO solution!
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Andy,
I want everyone to be sure to know that your problem is a PAL based
problem and it may be a problem for a short time. I know that Panasonic
and Apple are working on this. ATSC/NTSC DVCPRO has no problem working
with FCP, 1.25 or 2.0. The Media 100s are most like fed with an analog
signal as their 1394 solution is as limited to strictly DV in as well
and I am not even sure that the 1394 is available in PAL.
FWIW,
Jan
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy King [mailto:a.king@cowan.edu.au]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 4:34 AM
To: DV-L
Subject: Decks & FCP2 & DVCPro solution!
Perry & Jan
Thanks for the info, I should have emailed the list first
as always! 1 day later!
This is going to open up a can of worms,...what decks
would participants of the list recommend to use with FCP 2,
(1.25 if possible as well).
Our sound students use Pro Tools to do Post on films which may
have been shot on DVCPro and edited on PC Media 100 systems
at another uni for starters.
We have no card as yet but will probably buy one in the near future.
If we can free up a slot! RT Mac looks good.
In our department we shoot on mini DV mainly but with time code drop out
on mini DV we would like to move to another format for some projects.
Digital BetaCam is out of the question $$$, as is DVCPro
because of compatibility issues as revealed by Jan & Perry.
Our sound is captured seperately on DAT but we would like
to capture, edit and sync quickly rather than have a group
of us doing the digital hot shoe shuffle!
Any suggestions?
Thanks as always.
Andy King.
Future Producer of the video musical...."Five guys called Digital"
subtitled ........... (Mum, where's my trusty VHS?)
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Andy,
I want everyone to be sure to know that your problem is a PAL based problem and it may be a problem for a short time. I know that Panasonic and Apple are working on this. ATSC/NTSC DVCPRO has no problem working with FCP, 1.25 or 2.0. The Media 100s are most like fed with an analog signal as their 1394 solution is as limited to strictly DV in as well and I am not even sure that the 1394 is available in PAL.
FWIW,
Jan
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy King [mailto:a.king@cowan.edu.au]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 4:34 AM
To: DV-L
Subject: Decks & FCP2 & DVCPro solution!
Perry & Jan
Thanks for the info, I should have emailed the list first
as always! 1 day later!
This is going to open up a can of worms,...what decks
would participants of the list recommend to use with FCP 2,
(1.25 if possible as well).
Our sound students use Pro Tools to do Post on films which may
have been shot on DVCPro and edited on PC Media 100 systems
at another uni for starters.
We have no card as yet but will probably buy one in the near future.
If we can free up a slot! RT Mac looks good.
In our department we shoot on mini DV mainly but with time code drop out
on mini DV we would like to move to another format for some projects.
Digital BetaCam is out of the question $$$, as is DVCPro
because of compatibility issues as revealed by Jan & Perry.
Our sound is captured seperately on DAT but we would like
to capture, edit and sync quickly rather than have a group
of us doing the digital hot shoe shuffle!
Any suggestions?
Thanks as always.
Andy King.
Future Producer of the video musical...."Five guys called Digital"
subtitled ........... (Mum, where's my trusty VHS?)
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:40:11 -0500
From: Kirk Lohse
To: DV List
Subject: removing apple bug from iDVD
Message-ID:
Seems a while back someone posted a way to remove the Apple logo bug from
discs burned with iDVD.
Could you please repost?
thanks!
Kirk Lohse
digitalEYE productions
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:36:59 -0400
From: "Dany Coryet"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: AVI vs MPEG
Message-ID:
You can capture to MPEG directly from DIGITAL
or, as you've done, transcode to MPEG after making an uncompressed AVI file.
Your capture card will not do MPEG capture directly
but these cards do:
cheapest :VITEC
expensive: SONIC SOLUTIONS
:
>
>> Would the resolution in an MPEG clip converted from AVI
>> be noticeably better that one recorded direct to MPEG?
>
>It depends on if they used compression in the AVI... AVI,
>like QuickTime, is only a wrapper for the data. If there
>is no codec used on it (hardware or software), it should
>be lossless.
>
>Jeff
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:38:32 -0400
From: "Dany Coryet"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Sonic Solutions
Message-ID:
I heard Sonic is re-organizing their operation. Anyone on the list know
anything about this?
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:02:58 -0400
From: Marc Couroux
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Re: DV-L V1 #886
Message-ID: <3B28D21B.CC32413E@videotron.ca>
Howdy, three quick ones :
I'm looking for a good carrying case for my PD-150, any suggestions? (as
well as
where to buy).
Also, a good tripod for my PD150, by Bogen, in the 300$ range, of which
the
maximum height is 6-7 ft. Where to buy online?
FOr the 16:9 anamorphic adapter for the PD, there appears to be one
choice : Century Optics, are there others?
Past users comments appreciated.
Thanks...this list rocks. I have read more useful technical comments
here in my two weeks of subscription than any other source.
Marc
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:08:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Harpe
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Case for PD-150...answer
Message-ID: <20010614150840.66474.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com>
For the case, check out PortaBrace at
www.portabrace.com.
I bought my VX2000 case there and I love it.
Mike Harpe
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:18:53 -0400
From: "E Berlin"
To:
Subject: RE: DV-L V1 #886
Message-ID:
Funny you should ask...
I have a PD-150 with a case and a bogen tripod...he-he...
I have and like the soft Porta-Brace case for the 150. Someone else
recommended the Kata case, which is a little cheaper, and apparently has
fewer compartments and space. I know that there are hard cases that are a
still cheaper, like briefcases; they have foam inserts you can cut to the
shape of the camera.
I have the Bogen 3283B/501 tripod combination. I was dissatisfied with how
the head worked and sent it back. They just shipped me a *replacement*
head, so I guess they agree it wasn't working properly. I can let you know
in a week or two if it's working better. It's a great price and basically a
great package, assuming the replacement unit doesn't catch and jump during
moves like the other one did. The set comes with a carrying case, 2-stage
legs, head with arm, and ball leveler with bubble. It costs about $450, but
I understand the 501 head has now been superseded by the 503... It's very
quick and easy to operate; it's also light and very portable.
Don't know about the anamorphic adapter. Why don't you want to use the
built-in 16:9 capability, which I know isn't true 16:9?
EB
-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Couroux [mailto:couroux@videotron.ca]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 11:03 AM
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Re: DV-L V1 #886
Howdy, three quick ones :
I'm looking for a good carrying case for my PD-150, any suggestions? (as
well as
where to buy).
Also, a good tripod for my PD150, by Bogen, in the 300$ range, of which
the
maximum height is 6-7 ft. Where to buy online?
FOr the 16:9 anamorphic adapter for the PD, there appears to be one
choice : Century Optics, are there others?
Past users comments appreciated.
Thanks...this list rocks. I have read more useful technical comments
here in my two weeks of subscription than any other source.
Marc
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:32:01 -0600
From: Chiappini
To:
Subject: Columbia Audio/Video???
Message-ID:
Has anyone done business with Columbia Audio/Video? I'm considering buying
a VX2000 from them.
Thanks,
Paul Chiappini
Ziccardi Productions
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:29:15 -0400
From: "Crittenden, Jan"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: RE: DV or DVCAM?
Message-ID: <8FF8AAED9EE8D411836F0003472487A4015AA74C@mecasecu007.meca.panasonic.com>
Perry >If you use a non Sony DV product it is unlikely to play DVCAM.
>
Sorry Perry this is simply not true. In the US, the AG-DV1000 and 2000 will
play DVCAM and any DVCPRO machine will play DVCAM, plus a number of the
little cameras will play it(but only the minis.)
FWIW,
Jan
>
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:06:14 -0700
From: "Dick Lague"
To:
Subject: Re: Columbia Audio/Video???
Message-ID: <001101c0f4eb$f1c6bf80$0400a8c0@charterpipeline.com>
where are they? My favorite is B&H in NYC. great prices and great service
----- Original Message -----
From: Chiappini
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 8:32 AM
Subject: Columbia Audio/Video???
> Has anyone done business with Columbia Audio/Video? I'm considering
buying
> a VX2000 from them.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul Chiappini
> Ziccardi Productions
>
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:01:21 +0100
From: "Perry"
To:
Subject: RE: DV or DVCAM?
Message-ID:
I was obviously too pessimistic! Perhaps I should've said less likely! As a
matter of interest, is this feature documented for consumer DV products?
I also wonder why the Panny DV machines play Sony DVCAM but not Panasonic
DVCPRO? It rather smacks of Panny consumer division putting on the feature
simply because it was on rival Sony products. I'm not criticising, just
curious!
Perry Mitchell
Video Consultant
http://www.perrybits.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: Crittenden, Jan
Perry >If you use a non Sony DV product it is unlikely to play DVCAM.
>
Sorry Perry this is simply not true. In the US, the AG-DV1000 and 2000 will
play DVCAM and any DVCPRO machine will play DVCAM, plus a number of the
little cameras will play it(but only the minis.)
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:15:26 -0400
From: "Nathaniel See"
To:
Subject: RE: Columbia Audio/Video???
Message-ID:
yes, I bought my JVC DV-500 from them over a year ago. Good prices and good
service, no problems.
-Nathaniel See
-----Original Message-----
From: Chiappini [mailto:ziccardi@sisna.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 11:32 AM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Columbia Audio/Video???
Has anyone done business with Columbia Audio/Video? I'm considering buying
a VX2000 from them.
Thanks,
Paul Chiappini
Ziccardi Productions
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:11:56 -0600
From: Nathan White
To: "'DV-L@dvcentral.org'"
Subject: RE: Columbia Audio/Video???
Message-ID: <744756312232D51190B000A0C94970A1029D9B@LYRA>
yes B&H is great, I have order from them multiple times and have had not a
single bad experince. Their web site is one of the more comprehensive in the
industry too.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/
-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Lague [mailto:rlague@charter.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 10:06 AM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Columbia Audio/Video???
where are they? My favorite is B&H in NYC. great prices and great service
----- Original Message -----
From: Chiappini
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 8:32 AM
Subject: Columbia Audio/Video???
> Has anyone done business with Columbia Audio/Video? I'm considering
buying
> a VX2000 from them.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul Chiappini
> Ziccardi Productions
>
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:50:08 +0100
From: Andy Stevens
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: AVI vs MPEG
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010614094904.03378720@mail.ulti-media.com>
Also an option is Mediovision's CAMpeg which comes with program and card to
capture DV to MPEG2 format.
Andy Stevens
At 10:36 AM 6/14/01 -0400, you wrote:
>You can capture to MPEG directly from DIGITAL
>or, as you've done, transcode to MPEG after making an uncompressed AVI file.
>Your capture card will not do MPEG capture directly
>but these cards do:
>cheapest :VITEC
>expensive: SONIC SOLUTIONS
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:59:01 +0400
From: "david e. kahn"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: DV-L V1 #886
Message-ID:
on 6/14/01 7:02 PM, Marc Couroux at couroux@videotron.ca wrote:
> Howdy, three quick ones :
>
> I'm looking for a good carrying case for my PD-150, any suggestions? (as
> well as
> where to buy).
>
> Also, a good tripod for my PD150, by Bogen, in the 300$ range, of which
> the
> maximum height is 6-7 ft. Where to buy online?
>
> FOr the 16:9 anamorphic adapter for the PD, there appears to be one
> choice : Century Optics, are there others?
>
> Past users comments appreciated.
>
> Thanks...this list rocks. I have read more useful technical comments
> here in my two weeks of subscription than any other source.
>
> Marc
>
>
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Hello: I went to Service Merchandise and purchased a black case and put
foam in it. I wanted a case that I could roll and carry on an airplance and
did not look like a camera case since my experience is that a camera case is
just an invite to a potential problem. This is because I travel alot. I
also wanted a case that had rollers. Tughollow
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:59:00 +0400
From: "david e. kahn"
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Columbia Audio/Video???
Message-ID:
on 6/14/01 7:32 PM, Chiappini at ziccardi@sisna.com wrote:
> Has anyone done business with Columbia Audio/Video? I'm considering buying
> a VX2000 from them.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul Chiappini
> Ziccardi Productions
>
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Hello: Although they are a good company, I have found them higher the B&H,
Beach Camera and Sony outlets. This is just to mention a few. Also I would
make sure of the warranty, shipping a video tape cost. For tape I use Tape
Resourses. As you can see I shop around when I buy something expensive. My
first choice is warranty and assistance. The last camera I had repaired
cost me 480 dollars so to me the warranty is important. I have also found
that shopping around although the camera did not become less expensive one
dealer gave me a clear lens filer that I needed along with an excellent
case. These are two extras you might consider. Just a little advise the
way I work. Tughollow
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:05:04 -0400
From: "Phil Pratt"
To:
Subject: Re: Columbia Audio/Video???
Message-ID: <001501c0f4fc$8b595f80$6501a8c0@triad.rr.com>
> Has anyone done business with Columbia Audio/Video? I'm considering
buying
> a VX2000 from them.
They are located in Chicago area. I bought a DSR300 and two Porta Brace bags
from them. All has gone very well. I dealt with Jim Simpson. He's very
helpful.
Phil
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:48:39 -0500
From: Danny Grizzle
To: Rich Rosen ,
DV-L List
Subject: Re: Wide Angle Matte Boxes
Message-ID:
on 6/14/01 10:14 AM, Rich Rosen at rich@internetproductions.com wrote:
> Great "matte box" post. Thanks. One question. I just bought the Canon wide
> angle adaptor. It has no thread in the front so I assume there is no way to
> attach a lens hood. Is a flag the only way to go with an adaptor such as this?
> Secondly, can a polarizer be screwed in BEFORE the adaptor?
Matte boxes and polarizers don't mix that well with wide angles. On the pro
gear, Chrosziel makes a special wide angle matte box. It costs maybe $2,000,
and does less than a normal matte box because it has to be shorter in depth
to avoid vignetting.
The only practical solution with a wide is to compose carefully and flag the
lens manually. Even then, lens flare is sometimes unavoidable, but the
negative effect is lessened somewhat because the lens tends to push pack
distant objects. This means the sun is smaller in frame, and lens flare is
often less intrusive in the shot.
There are other factors, such as how many glass-to-air surfaces are in your
particular lens. Lens flare can be a plus if you can manage to make it work
for you. Proof of this is the fact that you can purchase specialty software
like Knoll Light Factory to *add* flare to images that did not originally
contain it. See:
Bottom line: I wouldn't worry about a lens shade for the wide angle, but
improvise with a flag as necessary.
Polarizers are not a good match for wide angles because the effect varies
according to the relative angles of sun, subject, and camera. With a wide
angle lens, the angle of view is so great that this variable polarization
becomes obviously visible in frame - for instance, instead of a solid blue
sky, you will get an unnatural gradiation of deep blue to near white.
One thing I would never do is mount a polarizer in between a lens and wide
angle adapter. Two things: 1) the lens would probably no longer focus
correctly, and 2) no rotating polarizer is made to support the substantial
weight of a wide angle lens - it could snap apart and crash to the ground!
Danny Grizzle
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:06:00 -0500
From: Danny Grizzle
To: DV-L List
Subject: Arrogant Filmmakers
Message-ID:
on 6/14/01 7:44 AM, WCR wrote:
> I appreciated your comments about thoughtfulness...
> respect as essential to the move to fine work.
Filmmakers can be horribly arrogant. Consider how someone might direct a
training film... one of the director's jobs is to condense time on screen,
but there is a certain absurdity to giving direction to "non-professional"
talent who may be a 40 year industry veteran with have more expertise than
the director will ever appreciate.
Once upon a time, I was on a judging panel for some non-theatrical film
award. Some guy was making a film about overpass/underpass safety, training
truck drivers to avoid accidents with trailer clearance problems.
Unfortunately, the cameraman on the film was killed while taping from atop a
moving truck - he collided with an overpass.
BTW - how does that Crocodile guy on TV stay alive?
Danny Grizzle
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:15:15 -0400
From: "E Berlin"
To:
Subject: RE: Arrogant Filmmakers
Message-ID:
Ha! What a coincidence...my company's about to shoot a pilot with the same
director who made the crocodile guy into a credible on-camera talent!
EB
-----Original Message-----
From: Danny Grizzle [mailto:danny@mogulhost.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 3:06 PM
To: DV-L List
Subject: Arrogant Filmmakers
on 6/14/01 7:44 AM, WCR wrote:
> I appreciated your comments about thoughtfulness...
> respect as essential to the move to fine work.
Filmmakers can be horribly arrogant. Consider how someone might direct a
training film... one of the director's jobs is to condense time on screen,
but there is a certain absurdity to giving direction to "non-professional"
talent who may be a 40 year industry veteran with have more expertise than
the director will ever appreciate.
Once upon a time, I was on a judging panel for some non-theatrical film
award. Some guy was making a film about overpass/underpass safety, training
truck drivers to avoid accidents with trailer clearance problems.
Unfortunately, the cameraman on the film was killed while taping from atop a
moving truck - he collided with an overpass.
BTW - how does that Crocodile guy on TV stay alive?
Danny Grizzle
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:25:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: Richard J Kinch
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Fun with flip books
Message-ID: <200106141925.PAA01160@truetex.com>
One fun thing I've done was take a clip of 50 digital frames and make an
old-fashioned flip-book. I printed strips of 10 frames at 1 inch height per
frame and a big left margin on photo paper with a color printer, sliced up the
paper frames with a print trimmer, and jogged and stapled them together into a
tiny book 1 inch high by 2 inches wide. I used hot-melt glue on the bound
edge to firm up the binding, and trimmed the flipping edge square on a power
cutter like they have at the print shop. The thick photo paper gives you a
better flip than 20 lb paper.
I was really struck how all this high-tech stuff comes together to make
something as retro as a flip-book.
The kids love it and it gives them a good intuition of how movies and
animation work. The VCRs, DVDs, and AVIs they are familiar with don't give
you a tactile feel for the technology like threading the old film projectors
did.
Richard Kinch
Palm Beach County, Florida USA
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:35:38 -0500
From: Bill Finch
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: DV Raptor RT What inputs and outputs ???
Message-ID: <3B29120A.49730EC@ix.netcom.com>
I've read the Canopus release about DV Raptor RT and looked at a photo
and still don't know for sure what inputs and outputs it has. Here's
what I think I see.
Inputs: 1394 only
Outputs 1394, composite video, S-VHS ???, L and R audio.
Can anyone in the know please correct my errors above.
Is this device really a Storm card without the analog inputs and also
without the hardware MPEG encoder?
I like the price a whole lot compared to Storm. Will it operate at the
same speeds as Storm?
If analog inputs is all that it is missing then why should anyone with
an analog to DV transcoder (like EE mode on DSR11 or DSR20 or VX2000 or
whatever) buy Storm?
I've worked with REX and DV Storm and DV Raptor with Canopus and Adobe
and Avid software and have a good feel for what they will and won't do.
I'm just trying to get a handle on this new animal called Raptor RT.
Thanks Guys (and Gals)
Bill
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:09:42 -0400
From: "Walt"
To:
Subject: Re: DV Raptor RT What inputs and outputs ???
Message-ID: <003501c0f516$baf0c200$6401a8c0@cfl.rr.com>
Bill,
It appears that the major differences are no analog inputs, no hardware
mpeg, and no real-time to DV output. Like all of the other real-time boards
in the under $1000 range it's only real-time to the analog outputs. If
you're going to spend a lot of time editing your work and the render time at
the end of the project isn't a problem then it's a much less expensive
solution. Color correction is an example of a process that would display in
real-time for editing but would take a long time to render because so many
frames are affected. There has been some mention of accelerated renders but
I don't know what the numbers are yet but even on the existing DVRaptor and
a fast PIII machine render times are in the 2-5 x range. I have both a
DVRaptor and a DVRexRT and I find that the real-time editing environment is
very nice to work with. The only time the render time will really hurt is
when you have a last minute change. In that case the dropdead time is a
combination of the time to output + render time rather than just time to
output. If you can plan your projects to avoid last minute changes the
DVRaptorRT should work fine. I use my DVRaptor primarily as a backup and
capture system and I'll probably upgrade it to the RT version to extend it's
capabilities because the cost is so reasonable.
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Finch"
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 3:35 PM
Subject: DV Raptor RT What inputs and outputs ???
> I've read the Canopus release about DV Raptor RT and looked at a photo
> and still don't know for sure what inputs and outputs it has. Here's
> what I think I see.
>
> Inputs: 1394 only
>
> Outputs 1394, composite video, S-VHS ???, L and R audio.
>
> Can anyone in the know please correct my errors above.
>
> Is this device really a Storm card without the analog inputs and also
> without the hardware MPEG encoder?
>
> I like the price a whole lot compared to Storm. Will it operate at the
> same speeds as Storm?
>
> If analog inputs is all that it is missing then why should anyone with
> an analog to DV transcoder (like EE mode on DSR11 or DSR20 or VX2000 or
> whatever) buy Storm?
>
> I've worked with REX and DV Storm and DV Raptor with Canopus and Adobe
> and Avid software and have a good feel for what they will and won't do.
> I'm just trying to get a handle on this new animal called Raptor RT.
>
> Thanks Guys (and Gals)
>
> Bill
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:50:07 +1200
From: Crazyhorse Pictures
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Arrogant Filmmakers
Message-ID: <3B29318F349.A669SOUTHCAM@smtp.world-net.co.nz>
Rubber crocodiles :-)
> BTW - how does that Crocodile guy on TV stay alive?
>
> Danny Grizzle
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:55:25 -0700
From: "George Loch"
To:
Subject: Re: DV Raptor RT What inputs and outputs ???
Message-ID: <01a201c0f525$1a8b3660$10b6bad0@csolutions.net>
Seems like you could also use the real-time analog output for one-offs for
your client and render the final overnight or whatever.
Am I wrong?
----- Original Message -----
From: Walt
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: DV Raptor RT What inputs and outputs ???
> Bill,
>
> It appears that the major differences are no analog inputs, no hardware
> mpeg, and no real-time to DV output. Like all of the other real-time
boards
> in the under $1000 range it's only real-time to the analog outputs. If
> you're going to spend a lot of time editing your work and the render time
at
> the end of the project isn't a problem then it's a much less expensive
> solution. Color correction is an example of a process that would display
in
> real-time for editing but would take a long time to render because so many
> frames are affected. There has been some mention of accelerated renders
but
> I don't know what the numbers are yet but even on the existing DVRaptor
and
> a fast PIII machine render times are in the 2-5 x range. I have both a
> DVRaptor and a DVRexRT and I find that the real-time editing environment
is
> very nice to work with. The only time the render time will really hurt is
> when you have a last minute change. In that case the dropdead time is a
> combination of the time to output + render time rather than just time to
> output. If you can plan your projects to avoid last minute changes the
> DVRaptorRT should work fine. I use my DVRaptor primarily as a backup and
> capture system and I'll probably upgrade it to the RT version to extend
it's
> capabilities because the cost is so reasonable.
>
> Walt
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Finch"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 3:35 PM
> Subject: DV Raptor RT What inputs and outputs ???
>
>
> > I've read the Canopus release about DV Raptor RT and looked at a photo
> > and still don't know for sure what inputs and outputs it has. Here's
> > what I think I see.
> >
> > Inputs: 1394 only
> >
> > Outputs 1394, composite video, S-VHS ???, L and R audio.
> >
> > Can anyone in the know please correct my errors above.
> >
> > Is this device really a Storm card without the analog inputs and also
> > without the hardware MPEG encoder?
> >
> > I like the price a whole lot compared to Storm. Will it operate at the
> > same speeds as Storm?
> >
> > If analog inputs is all that it is missing then why should anyone with
> > an analog to DV transcoder (like EE mode on DSR11 or DSR20 or VX2000 or
> > whatever) buy Storm?
> >
> > I've worked with REX and DV Storm and DV Raptor with Canopus and Adobe
> > and Avid software and have a good feel for what they will and won't do.
> > I'm just trying to get a handle on this new animal called Raptor RT.
> >
> > Thanks Guys (and Gals)
> >
> > Bill
>
>
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:46:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Adam Tinkoff
To: DV-L@DVCentral.org
Subject: Re: DV-L V1 #886
Message-ID: <20010615014607.3360.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com>
>is it possible to get DV output via firewire
ECHOFIRE does this wonderfully - works with
AfterEffects, Photoshop & Drag & Drop Quicktime files
to play them "firewire out" to a monitor.
$250 http://www.synthetic-ap.com
Adam Tinkoff
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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:52:56 +0900
From: jhogg
To:
Subject: Re: (for Mac) Norton,Techtools,Disk Warrior- what's the best medicine?
Message-ID: <200106150152.KAA23840@apm01.m2.ocv.ne.jp>
The way TTP optimizes is that it copies the file and pastes back on the
hd, and I think it verifies before deleting the original file. They claim
the computer can crash, or lose power and you won't lose anything on the
disc. To do this there has to be enough space on the disc to have the two
files there. I agree having 19 gigs free should be no problem, but maybe
you've got huge media files. I've had similar troubles with TTP. One
thing is with the Trash Cache on, when you delete files they are really
still there for easy recovery. You have to trash the cache before you
free up all the space. Still, it seems more often than not, when I
optimize, the beginning of the process goes smoothly, but then it bogs
down. When I optimize frequently, as is suggested, things are much
quicker.
>Except for the fact that TTP seems to have trouble optimizing disks. I
>wanted to optimize my 37-gig DV drive on my B&W, but TTP gave me an error
>message saying that there wasn't enough room (or something like that) to
>optimize the files. There were 19 gigs or so left on this drive. Yet it
>optimized my 6-gig startup drive just fine, and that had only a gig and a
>quarter free. Go figure.
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:31:20 -0700
From: Tom Nelson
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Users of RT2X/Storm/DV500
Message-ID: <000201c0f54d$e0ad13e0$6501a8c0@pacbell.net>
All 3 products have their growing pains but you are doing the right thing by
having a turn key solution put together for you.
I use the 2500 and it took a around 2 days to get it working right,
something you shouldn't have to deal with since you are having it built. now
that its working I love it.
The Canopus costs more but if its within your budget (and it sounds like it
is) it should be real nice as well, its power scales with the power of your
computer which is a nice thing for when you upgrade to a more powerful
processor.
you can checkout www.guygraphics.com for some movies people have made with
the RT2000/RT2500 web movies yes but they represent stuff that people are
making professionally.
>
> So I am asking the list users as to who is using what. RT2000/2500
> users, DV500 users and Storm users as to feedback. Who is having the
> LEAST technical problems and best workability. We are getting close to
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Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:36:55 -0700
From: "danclark"
To:
Subject: RE: Columbia Audio/Video???
Message-ID: <004201c0f554$ce6c0ea0$0a10fed8@dan>
I just ordered a video camera, tripod and accessories from them
yesterday. Website is great and prices are reasonable. Not the
absolute lowest, but very good. I got a Canon Optura Pi for $999.95.
In the last 2-3 days, the same camera went for $965. For $35 bucks, I
get a lot of peace of mind.
Regards,
Dan.
-----Original Message-----
From: Nathan White [mailto:NathanW@optimus-corp.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 9:12 AM
To: 'DV-L@dvcentral.org'
Subject: RE: Columbia Audio/Video???
yes B&H is great, I have order from them multiple times and have had not
a single bad experince. Their web site is one of the more comprehensive
in the industry too. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/
-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Lague [mailto:rlague@charter.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 10:06 AM
To: DV-L@dvcentral.org
Subject: Re: Columbia Audio/Video???
where are they? My favorite is B&H in NYC. great prices and great
service
----- Original Message -----
From: Chiappini
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 8:32 AM
Subject: Columbia Audio/Video???
> Has anyone done business with Columbia Audio/Video? I'm considering
buying
> a VX2000 from them.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul Chiappini
> Ziccardi Productions
>
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