Redrock, Brevis, SGPro Shootout at DVinfo.net

Phil Bloom · December 11th, 2006, 02:12 PM

It will take me a while to get this done properly but in the meantime here is something to wet your appetite!

Sam Jankis · December 11th, 2006, 06:14 PM

You've got my attention.

Chris Barcellos · December 11th, 2006, 07:04 PM

I'm waiting patiently too. Thanks for doing this Phil..

Dennis Wood · December 11th, 2006, 08:28 PM

Jeeps, the little B looks like the runt of the litter :-)

Ben Winter · December 11th, 2006, 10:18 PM

Haha...two are proudly angled upward, while the small one glances woefully away...

p.s. I never knew the M2 was that thick...is it seriously that big?

Devon Lyon · December 11th, 2006, 10:47 PM

Yes, very interested. What is the timeframe?

Phil Bloom · December 12th, 2006, 02:56 AM

Got a lot of nightshoots this week for the homeless doco, but hopefully by early next week I should have a decent comparison done.

The M2 is thicker than the SGPro but it doesn't have the extension tube. Although this doubles a very well thought through and usable hard mount.

Ryan Lindsey · December 12th, 2006, 06:49 AM

Okay, I can, but I really don't want to!

Initially, I had my heart set on the M2. This was primarily due to the M2 stealing more headlines. Infact, I was unaware, till recently, these other comparable production models existed.

Now, I'd have to say I'm leaning heavily toward the Brevis. In short, the quality of all 3 seems to be comparable, but the low light capabilities and quick setup of the Brevis are a major plus for me.

I think visually, the M2 is the sexiest adapter out of the bunch and by far looks the most professional; especially with the matching FF.

I can't wait to read a comparison of all 3 together. I've read nearly every thread I can find on these adapters and, unfortunately, most people tend to praise whatever product they own.

Anyway, I keep checking this thread so much I figured I had to post something so next time I check I'll have something new to read.

Wayne Kinney · December 12th, 2006, 07:03 AM

Hi,
If you are looking for the lowest lightloss and ease of use, the Brevis is a good choice. One thing that I learnt on Sundays shootout was how easy the Brevis is to setup and use, since you dont need to adjust any rods support!

Dennis Wood · December 12th, 2006, 08:01 AM

I feel like I missed a party,there Wayne. It would have been great to play around with the adapters for an afternoon in a relaxed setting, have a beer or two and ruminate on adapter fodder. I'm kicking myself for not getting the latest/greatest enhancements (particularly CINEFUSE 3, and the new drive system) out to Phil in time for this ... It's like sending your kid to graduation dressed in sweat pants :-O

I've told Phil this a few times already, but his work his truly inspiring. Wayne, your efforts to continually improve the SG are something I can relate to, and reflect a genuine desire to provide shooters with the best possible product. Raising the standard for these things is good news for everyone using them.

Wayne Kinney · December 12th, 2006, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis Wood

I feel like I missed a party,there Wayne. It would have been great to play around with the adapters for an afternoon in a relaxed setting, have a beer or two and ruminate on adapter fodder.

That would have been cool.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis Wood

Wayne, your efforts to continually improve the SG are something I can relate to, and reflect a genuine desire to provide shooters with the best possible product. Raising the standard for these things is good news for everyone using them.

And its also alot of fun too :D

Bob Hart · December 12th, 2006, 08:51 AM

Dennis.

Please forgive my ignorance. I have failed to follow the mechaical owrkings of your adaptor. Does it have a moving GG?

What is the inner diameter of your tubular case?

If there are no fixed pattern artifacts in the Brevis image, it would be interesting to offer the Brevis unit up, minus the dioptre, to the flip enclosure of the Letus35 flip for XL or HD100 with the BCX condenser removed from the front of the Letus35 flip enclosure, if the Brevis has its own condenser elements.

Dennis Wood · December 12th, 2006, 02:38 PM

Bob, it is indeed a moving GG...now with adjustable amplitude. We actually have our own flip module coming shortly :-) The module will integrate with existing units, and is removable for use when max light gain is priority. It may have applications for other adapters too.

Steve Witt · December 12th, 2006, 03:19 PM

Phil, what camera(s) will you be conducting these comparisons with?

Phil Bloom · December 12th, 2006, 03:25 PM

I used an HVX 200 in 720p mode. It wasn't exactly scientific, more a real world comparison...

December 11th, 2006, 02:12 PM	#1
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	Redrock, Brevis, SGPro Shootout It will take me a while to get this done properly but in the meantime here is something to wet your appetite! Attached Thumbnails __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

December 11th, 2006, 07:04 PM	#3
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	I'm waiting patiently too. Thanks for doing this Phil.. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

December 11th, 2006, 10:18 PM	#5
Ben Winter Trustee Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 1,675 Images: 1	Haha...two are proudly angled upward, while the small one glances woefully away... p.s. I never knew the M2 was that thick...is it seriously that big? __________________ BenWinter.com

December 11th, 2006, 10:47 PM	#6
Devon Lyon Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 213	Yes, very interested. What is the timeframe? __________________ Lyon Films www.LyonFilms.com;

December 12th, 2006, 02:56 AM	#7
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	Got a lot of nightshoots this week for the homeless doco, but hopefully by early next week I should have a decent comparison done. The M2 is thicker than the SGPro but it doesn't have the extension tube. Although this doubles a very well thought through and usable hard mount. __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

December 11th, 2006, 06:14 PM	#2
Sam Jankis Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: St. Pete, FL Posts: 223	You've got my attention.

December 11th, 2006, 08:28 PM	#4
Dennis Wood Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 916	Jeeps, the little B looks like the runt of the litter :-)

December 12th, 2006, 06:49 AM	#8
Ryan Lindsey New Boot Join Date: May 2006 Location: austin, tx Posts: 18	I don't know if I can wait! Okay, I can, but I really don't want to! Initially, I had my heart set on the M2. This was primarily due to the M2 stealing more headlines. Infact, I was unaware, till recently, these other comparable production models existed. Now, I'd have to say I'm leaning heavily toward the Brevis. In short, the quality of all 3 seems to be comparable, but the low light capabilities and quick setup of the Brevis are a major plus for me. I think visually, the M2 is the sexiest adapter out of the bunch and by far looks the most professional; especially with the matching FF. I can't wait to read a comparison of all 3 together. I've read nearly every thread I can find on these adapters and, unfortunately, most people tend to praise whatever product they own. Anyway, I keep checking this thread so much I figured I had to post something so next time I check I'll have something new to read.

December 12th, 2006, 07:03 AM	#9
Wayne Kinney Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK Posts: 938	Hi, If you are looking for the lowest lightloss and ease of use, the Brevis is a good choice. One thing that I learnt on Sundays shootout was how easy the Brevis is to setup and use, since you dont need to adjust any rods support! __________________ Thanks, Wayne.

December 12th, 2006, 08:01 AM	#10
Dennis Wood Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 916	I feel like I missed a party,there Wayne. It would have been great to play around with the adapters for an afternoon in a relaxed setting, have a beer or two and ruminate on adapter fodder. I'm kicking myself for not getting the latest/greatest enhancements (particularly CINEFUSE 3, and the new drive system) out to Phil in time for this ... It's like sending your kid to graduation dressed in sweat pants :-O I've told Phil this a few times already, but his work his truly inspiring. Wayne, your efforts to continually improve the SG are something I can relate to, and reflect a genuine desire to provide shooters with the best possible product. Raising the standard for these things is good news for everyone using them.

December 12th, 2006, 08:51 AM	#12
Bob Hart Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PERTH. W.A. AUSTRALIA. Posts: 4,477	Dennis. Please forgive my ignorance. I have failed to follow the mechaical owrkings of your adaptor. Does it have a moving GG? What is the inner diameter of your tubular case? If there are no fixed pattern artifacts in the Brevis image, it would be interesting to offer the Brevis unit up, minus the dioptre, to the flip enclosure of the Letus35 flip for XL or HD100 with the BCX condenser removed from the front of the Letus35 flip enclosure, if the Brevis has its own condenser elements.

December 12th, 2006, 02:38 PM	#13
Dennis Wood Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 916	Bob, it is indeed a moving GG...now with adjustable amplitude. We actually have our own flip module coming shortly :-) The module will integrate with existing units, and is removable for use when max light gain is priority. It may have applications for other adapters too.

December 12th, 2006, 03:19 PM	#14
Steve Witt Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: kentucky, USA Posts: 429	Phil, what camera(s) will you be conducting these comparisons with?

December 12th, 2006, 03:25 PM	#15
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	I used an HVX 200 in 720p mode. It wasn't exactly scientific, more a real world comparison... __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net