Welcome to the Long, Very Long Black Line at DVinfo.net

Chris Hurd · January 1st, 2004, 10:15 AM

Howdy from Texas,

We get soooo many posts about DV tape, we decided to dump 'em all into a special forum dedicated specifically to the topic of "tape" which, as far as I know, is the first of its kind anywhere online. The other big message boards for digital video won't give you this kind of service, but we aim to please, baby! There's a lot to read in here, so before you pop your tape question, try reading through these threads, and I'll bet you'll find your answer. Kudos to Ken (or blame, whichever you deem appropriate) for the forum title. At least there's no Red Tape here! Hope this helps!

Alessandro Machi · March 18th, 2004, 12:21 AM

When I read the description of this forum it sounded like it was for all video formats. When I read this topic it sounds like it's strictly DV.

Frank Granovski · March 18th, 2004, 12:58 AM

I'm sure other tape type posts are welcome, it's that miniDV tape is the most popular. That is why one mainly see posts about miniDV. After all, the site is called, DVinfo. :-))

Alessandro Machi · March 18th, 2004, 01:03 AM

The absence of any other video format by name in the welcome message combined with the various forums' penchant for staying on topic may be having a chilling affect.

Frank Granovski · March 18th, 2004, 02:05 AM

You might be correct. But in life, one must take chances. :-))

What type of tape do you want to discuss? (Super8 is film.)

Jeff Donald · March 18th, 2004, 06:25 AM

Alessandro, this community is, after all, named DV Info. Consequently the vast majority of it's member are DV oriented. We do not wish to exclude discussion of other formats, in the appropriate forums. Discussions within the threads need to stay on topic and discuss new material. If the discussions strays too far from the original posters question or if no new material is being added to the discussion, the Wrangler (moderator) may take action as he deems appropriate. If you have questions regarding any of this, or additional questions, be sure to review the DV Info FAQ.

Alessandro Machi · March 18th, 2004, 10:08 AM

All I'm saying is that when I read the forum description for this forum it seems to welcome the discussion of other tape formats, but when I read this topic, which appears to be the introduction to this forum, it feels like it's primarily about DV.

Graham Jones · May 5th, 2005, 04:48 PM

Diamonds are very hard to find in the rough of The Long Black Line.

The whole 'I like Fujis but my Granny wears Pannys' conviction is getting beneath us. I'm no angel in this respect - don't get me wrong - I just worry that anyone searching will be globally positioned in miles of shite at no particular point, by search results, depending how they phrase their search and also depending on what's been said lately which is rarely original.

Revelations have to be swallowed up within a week, never readily accessible again - if true revelations exist.

Perhaps you could enumerate some Mini DV stock wisdom in the introduction Chris: if all you're looking to know is A, B, C then D, E, F is often said and if all you're going to reveal is G, H, I.. then consider that this has been said many times before!

Joe Barker · August 28th, 2005, 07:09 PM

Could everyone stop the one upmanship and sermantics game. Just concentrate on DV tapes as the forum name, DV i Community title implies.Life is way too short for endless waffle.

Alessandro Machi · August 28th, 2005, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Barker

Could everyone stop the one upmanship and sermantics game. Just concentrate on DV tapes as the forum name, DV i Community title implies.Life is way too short for endless waffle.

May, June, July, August,

Did you realize that your coment comes 3 months and 3 weeks after the previous comment? I think the stuff you are complaining, if it ever even existed, stopped months ago, no?

Joe Barker · August 29th, 2005, 12:19 AM

Thats ok, time has no meaning when afflicted with insomnia.Now what month and year did you say we are in?

Jack Barker · October 8th, 2005, 10:24 PM

Jeez, Joe. I wonder if we're related?

Alexander Ibrahim · April 25th, 2006, 09:16 PM

Well, its a shameless, but hopefully on topic plug- even if it is 2+ years late.

I have a DV Tape FAQ on my site:

http://www.zenera.com/dvtape.html

It answers a lot of questions about tape without getting too technical.

While it is written about MiniDV tape, a lot of the same stuff applies to DVCPRO, DVCAM and other tapes. Just remember- I wasn't writing about those.

I just reformatted it, and I hope to clean up the text and add some more technical information in the coming months. Don't hold your breath on that, but it is on my mind.

I hope you find it useful.

Loren Miller · August 25th, 2006, 02:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexander Ibrahim

I have a DV Tape FAQ on my site:

http://www.zenera.com/dvtape.html

I hope you find it useful.

I think it's a great idea. I would add to this DV/DVCAM/DVCPro entry:

Quote:

DVCAM and DVCPRO both run their tapes faster with more robust error correction than DV. DVCAM runs at 28.193mm/sec. Unlike my experience with DV SP and LP mode, these formats definitely reduce dropouts and extend shelf life compared to DV SP mode.

this extra info:

DVCAM also provides Locked Audio (frame equivalent to image), better stock and better lubricant.

- Loren

Alexander Ibrahim · August 25th, 2006, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loren Miller

I think it's a great idea. I would add to this DV/DVCAM/DVCPro entry:

DVCAM also provides Locked Audio (frame equivalent to image), better stock and better lubricant.

Good points Loren, and you see what I mean when I wrote I wasn't writing about DVCPRO/DVCAM etc. ::grin::

I'll probably add that in though.

January 1st, 2004, 10:15 AM	#1
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	Welcome to the Long, Very Long Black Line Howdy from Texas, We get soooo many posts about DV tape, we decided to dump 'em all into a special forum dedicated specifically to the topic of "tape" which, as far as I know, is the first of its kind anywhere online. The other big message boards for digital video won't give you this kind of service, but we aim to please, baby! There's a lot to read in here, so before you pop your tape question, try reading through these threads, and I'll bet you'll find your answer. Kudos to Ken (or blame, whichever you deem appropriate) for the forum title. At least there's no Red Tape here! Hope this helps! __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 18th, 2004, 12:21 AM	#2
Alessandro Machi Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles, Ca USA Posts: 553	When I read the description of this forum it sounded like it was for all video formats. When I read this topic it sounds like it's strictly DV. __________________ https://alexlogic.blogspot.com/ Los Angeles Emmy Winner (yes, used a video edit controller and loved doing so.)

March 18th, 2004, 01:03 AM	#4
Alessandro Machi Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles, Ca USA Posts: 553	The absence of any other video format by name in the welcome message combined with the various forums' penchant for staying on topic may be having a chilling affect. __________________ https://alexlogic.blogspot.com/ Los Angeles Emmy Winner (yes, used a video edit controller and loved doing so.)

March 18th, 2004, 06:25 AM	#6
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Alessandro, this community is, after all, named DV Info. Consequently the vast majority of it's member are DV oriented. We do not wish to exclude discussion of other formats, in the appropriate forums. Discussions within the threads need to stay on topic and discuss new material. If the discussions strays too far from the original posters question or if no new material is being added to the discussion, the Wrangler (moderator) may take action as he deems appropriate. If you have questions regarding any of this, or additional questions, be sure to review the DV Info FAQ. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 18th, 2004, 10:08 AM	#7
Alessandro Machi Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles, Ca USA Posts: 553	All I'm saying is that when I read the forum description for this forum it seems to welcome the discussion of other tape formats, but when I read this topic, which appears to be the introduction to this forum, it feels like it's primarily about DV. __________________ https://alexlogic.blogspot.com/ Los Angeles Emmy Winner (yes, used a video edit controller and loved doing so.)

March 18th, 2004, 12:58 AM	#3
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	I'm sure other tape type posts are welcome, it's that miniDV tape is the most popular. That is why one mainly see posts about miniDV. After all, the site is called, DVinfo. :-))

March 18th, 2004, 02:05 AM	#5
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	You might be correct. But in life, one must take chances. :-)) What type of tape do you want to discuss? (Super8 is film.)

May 5th, 2005, 04:48 PM	#8
Graham Jones Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 489	Diamonds are very hard to find in the rough of The Long Black Line. The whole 'I like Fujis but my Granny wears Pannys' conviction is getting beneath us. I'm no angel in this respect - don't get me wrong - I just worry that anyone searching will be globally positioned in miles of shite at no particular point, by search results, depending how they phrase their search and also depending on what's been said lately which is rarely original. Revelations have to be swallowed up within a week, never readily accessible again - if true revelations exist. Perhaps you could enumerate some Mini DV stock wisdom in the introduction Chris: if all you're looking to know is A, B, C then D, E, F is often said and if all you're going to reveal is G, H, I.. then consider that this has been said many times before! __________________ www.irishfilmmaker.com

August 28th, 2005, 07:09 PM	#9
Joe Barker Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Perth WA Australia Posts: 124	Could everyone stop the one upmanship and sermantics game. Just concentrate on DV tapes as the forum name, DV i Community title implies.Life is way too short for endless waffle.

August 29th, 2005, 12:19 AM	#11
Joe Barker Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Perth WA Australia Posts: 124	Thats ok, time has no meaning when afflicted with insomnia.Now what month and year did you say we are in?

October 8th, 2005, 10:24 PM	#12
Jack Barker Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 342	Jeez, Joe. I wonder if we're related?

April 25th, 2006, 09:16 PM	#13
Alexander Ibrahim Major Player Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Washington D.C. Metro Area Posts: 384	DV Tape FAQ Well, its a shameless, but hopefully on topic plug- even if it is 2+ years late. I have a DV Tape FAQ on my site: http://www.zenera.com/dvtape.html It answers a lot of questions about tape without getting too technical. While it is written about MiniDV tape, a lot of the same stuff applies to DVCPRO, DVCAM and other tapes. Just remember- I wasn't writing about those. I just reformatted it, and I hope to clean up the text and add some more technical information in the coming months. Don't hold your breath on that, but it is on my mind. I hope you find it useful. __________________ Alexander Ibrahim http://www.alexanderibrahim.net