Laptop HD-SDI capture at DVinfo.net

John Benton · June 19th, 2006, 09:47 PM

Any experience with this:
http://www.mobl.com/expansion/produc...ion/index.html
I am interested in their 1 Slot ExpressCard to PCI Expansion System,
to interface my Apple 133Gz G4 17" Powerbook (with a 7200RPM HD)
with a BlackMagic Decklink HD Pro Single Link - Uncompressed 12-bit HDTV SDI HD and SD Video Capture PCI-X Card with Single-Link 4:2:2 and Down Conversion and SD/HD Analog Monitoring -

It seems like it will it all "fit" together,
My question (not sure if anyone can answer this) is will it "work" - specifically for importing Uncompressed HD Video as Photojpeg/DVCPro HD/Sheer into Final Cut

Greg Boston · June 19th, 2006, 09:51 PM

I don't believe you'll be able to sustain the necessary data rate to capture HD with that combination. It would likely require one of the new Macbook Pro systems.

Have a look at this link to see what's coming down the pipe.

http://www.vydeo.com/products/EC34.html

-gb-

Jacques Mersereau · June 20th, 2006, 07:05 AM

That card looks exactly what I want to buy. Now, if Final Cut and it
work together and the cost is not too expensive I think they will have
a winning combo.

Nice work on find that one Mr. Boston.

Levan Bakhia · June 20th, 2006, 10:05 AM

Is it already available? if not do you know when will it be available?

John Benton · June 20th, 2006, 10:38 AM

It's been in development for awhile -
& the Web Page has remained the same for months

Barlow Elton · June 20th, 2006, 12:53 PM

I called the company and asked when the product might ship. They said they couldn't say as it is being developed for a specific OEM.

Hmmm...can you say AJA/Blackmagic! Who knows when it'll actually ship though.

Dang, I'm chompin' at the bit for a laptop SDI solution.

John Benton · June 20th, 2006, 01:26 PM

You & Me Both B, you and me both...

Greg Boston · June 20th, 2006, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacques Mersereau

Nice work on find that one Mr. Boston.

Actually, Barlow gets the credit for finding that. He posted it in an earlier thread and I used the link to illustrate a point.

-gb-

Luis de la Cerda · June 20th, 2006, 03:34 PM

Someone should just come up with an sdi expresscard and that would be the end of it. If you have a fast enough laptop to do real time cineform encoding that's about all there is to it.

Luis de la Cerda · June 22nd, 2006, 01:49 AM

I just found something very interesting. Aparently, the D/Dock expansion chassis for the Dell Precision M90 notebook workstation holds a pci card inside. This sounds like the perfect way to capture sdi in the field to me. The machine is a powerhouse and I bet it can do real time cineform encoding, making it an even better solution than the wafian since it does have a battery, not to mention a 1920x1200 display to monitor on. I'll have to get me one :)

John Benton · June 22nd, 2006, 06:58 AM

Luis -
That s a beautiful find !
But do you think that a Blackmagic card can really fit in here and do the work?
Too bad Dell doesn't have a store here where you could go in and get Tech answers

Luis de la Cerda · June 22nd, 2006, 04:12 PM

The best way to get tech answers would be the dell forums. Maybe if we ask around?

All I have found out so far is that it holds a half length pci card inside and it works for many notebook models out there. It's been around for quite some time now. What I haven't been able to find out is if blackmagic and aja sdi cards are half or full length. The only full length pci card I've ever owned was a DPS Velocity that bit the dust a few years back.

Tony Relph · November 10th, 2006, 10:49 PM

Hi,

Has anyone found out if the Dell Precision M90 notebook workstation holds an SDI pci card inside or if an ExpressCard to PCI Expansion card will work on a MacBook Pro with an SDI card?

Thanks,

John Richard · November 11th, 2006, 10:42 AM

I still think it is the capture/storage drive array that is going to give the portability problems.

To get portability (such as a Firestore device) you currently have to accept degrading compression like Cineform/Wafian or Sheer or accept more bulk in the drive array.

Jay Stebbins · November 11th, 2006, 01:00 PM

I just stumbled across this wonderful news....

http://www.barefeats.com/hard71.html

as well as, I was unaware of the recent 15" MacBook Pro changes... An even faster processor and a firewire 800 ports was added to the mix.

The pieces are coming or even here... But will they work together?

June 19th, 2006, 09:47 PM	#1
John Benton Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 658	Laptop HD-SDI capture Any experience with this: http://www.mobl.com/expansion/produc...ion/index.html I am interested in their 1 Slot ExpressCard to PCI Expansion System, to interface my Apple 133Gz G4 17" Powerbook (with a 7200RPM HD) with a BlackMagic Decklink HD Pro Single Link - Uncompressed 12-bit HDTV SDI HD and SD Video Capture PCI-X Card with Single-Link 4:2:2 and Down Conversion and SD/HD Analog Monitoring - It seems like it will it all "fit" together, My question (not sure if anyone can answer this) is will it "work" - specifically for importing Uncompressed HD Video as Photojpeg/DVCPro HD/Sheer into Final Cut

June 20th, 2006, 07:05 AM	#3
Jacques Mersereau Trustee Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,334	That card looks exactly what I want to buy. Now, if Final Cut and it work together and the cost is not too expensive I think they will have a winning combo. Nice work on find that one Mr. Boston. __________________ Jacques Mersereau University of Michigan-Video Studio Manager

June 20th, 2006, 10:05 AM	#4
Levan Bakhia Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 230	Is it already available? if not do you know when will it be available? __________________ ____________ www.sarke.ge ---------------- ____________

November 10th, 2006, 10:49 PM	#13
Tony Relph Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canary Wharf, London E14 Posts: 166	Hi, Has anyone found out if the Dell Precision M90 notebook workstation holds an SDI pci card inside or if an ExpressCard to PCI Expansion card will work on a MacBook Pro with an SDI card? Thanks, __________________ Tony Relph. anthonyjohnrelph@hotmail.com

June 19th, 2006, 09:51 PM	#2
Greg Boston Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DFW area, TX Posts: 6,117 Images: 1	I don't believe you'll be able to sustain the necessary data rate to capture HD with that combination. It would likely require one of the new Macbook Pro systems. Have a look at this link to see what's coming down the pipe. http://www.vydeo.com/products/EC34.html -gb-

June 20th, 2006, 10:38 AM	#5
John Benton Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 658	It's been in development for awhile - & the Web Page has remained the same for months

June 20th, 2006, 12:53 PM	#6
Barlow Elton Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UT Posts: 945	I called the company and asked when the product might ship. They said they couldn't say as it is being developed for a specific OEM. Hmmm...can you say AJA/Blackmagic! Who knows when it'll actually ship though. Dang, I'm chompin' at the bit for a laptop SDI solution.

June 20th, 2006, 01:26 PM	#7
John Benton Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 658	You & Me Both B, you and me both...

June 20th, 2006, 03:34 PM	#9
Luis de la Cerda Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mexico City Posts: 181	Someone should just come up with an sdi expresscard and that would be the end of it. If you have a fast enough laptop to do real time cineform encoding that's about all there is to it.

June 22nd, 2006, 01:49 AM	#10
Luis de la Cerda Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mexico City Posts: 181	I just found something very interesting. Aparently, the D/Dock expansion chassis for the Dell Precision M90 notebook workstation holds a pci card inside. This sounds like the perfect way to capture sdi in the field to me. The machine is a powerhouse and I bet it can do real time cineform encoding, making it an even better solution than the wafian since it does have a battery, not to mention a 1920x1200 display to monitor on. I'll have to get me one :)

June 22nd, 2006, 06:58 AM	#11
John Benton Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 658	Luis - That s a beautiful find ! But do you think that a Blackmagic card can really fit in here and do the work? Too bad Dell doesn't have a store here where you could go in and get Tech answers

June 22nd, 2006, 04:12 PM	#12
Luis de la Cerda Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mexico City Posts: 181	The best way to get tech answers would be the dell forums. Maybe if we ask around? All I have found out so far is that it holds a half length pci card inside and it works for many notebook models out there. It's been around for quite some time now. What I haven't been able to find out is if blackmagic and aja sdi cards are half or full length. The only full length pci card I've ever owned was a DPS Velocity that bit the dust a few years back.

November 11th, 2006, 10:42 AM	#14
John Richard Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Incline Village, Nevada Posts: 604	I still think it is the capture/storage drive array that is going to give the portability problems. To get portability (such as a Firestore device) you currently have to accept degrading compression like Cineform/Wafian or Sheer or accept more bulk in the drive array.

November 11th, 2006, 01:00 PM	#15
Jay Stebbins Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Nantucket MA Posts: 82	I just stumbled across this wonderful news.... http://www.barefeats.com/hard71.html as well as, I was unaware of the recent 15" MacBook Pro changes... An even faster processor and a firewire 800 ports was added to the mix. The pieces are coming or even here... But will they work together?