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Old August 6th, 2005, 05:43 PM   #1
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iriver for dummies?

I know there are dozens of threads here about recording with the iriver. But I can't find one that tells me how to work the thing! Talk about frustrating; this little gadget (795, plus I got a Giant Squid mic) doesn't work like anything I've ever seen. And the manual! Don't get me started about that. :)

For now, what I'm needing are step-by-step instructions on how to record. I'll worry about importing the mp3 later.

Found this for setting up a podcast (?) with the iriver 799. Is this what I want to do? http://www.geekfishing.net/internet/...recording.html

I hate showing the depths of my ineptitude here, but I've monkeyed with this thing long enough.

Give a dummy a fish and she won't know how to cook it... :)
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Old August 6th, 2005, 06:29 PM   #2
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That sounds like the generals of operating your critter. The podcast is another critter all together, and not something you will need to worry over.
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Old August 6th, 2005, 06:30 PM   #3
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"Give a dummy a fish and she won't know how to cook it... :)"

That is why fast food joints thrive so well :)
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Old August 6th, 2005, 06:48 PM   #4
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LOL!!! And still laughing!!! You've outdone yourself with that one, my friend.

Thanks, Keith. Now I feel like I can pick it up and try again. :)
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Old August 6th, 2005, 07:07 PM   #5
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Biggest thing about the iRiver is learning the quirky control.

Fast press
SLow press (hold for a second)
LONG press (hold until it responds)

This is true for buttons and toggle (both pushing and pressing)

Fast press button 1 gets you out of whatever you are doing, like escape key on computer.

SLow press button 3 to get it into mode-changing mode, then select (using toggle) line-in for external mic or mic for internal mic Then exit.

Fast press button 3 to record. fast press again to stop.

LONG press toggle in center position ot get into control mode to change settings on everything. Then toggle thru menus.

Getting the knack of the three ways to press a button or toggle, and you are 95% of the way there. It gets fairly easy after that, but still a bit of a challenge to remember. I have to relearn it every time I use it. ALways try a fast, then slow, then long press while experimenting.

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Old August 6th, 2005, 09:32 PM   #6
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I have a Giant Squid mic and an iRiver 895 and I took the time to write myself some "Dummie's" directions... :-)

First, if you don't have the manual, download the manual from the iRiver site: http://www.iriveramerica.com/images/...USA_040326.pdf

Here are the notes I use (I'm glad I had these at a wedding I filmed a couple of months ago... because I would have definitely missed something since I don't use the iRiver enough to remember the settings). These settings worked quite well for me to get clean audio.


***SETTINGS***

Timer (manual section 5-17)

- Sleep power off - OFF / Beep OFF
- Stop Power off - 60 min

Control - (manual section 5-22)

- Line in recording mode:
Mono
44.1KHz
160 Kbps

- Line In Rec Volume: 50

- Line In Auto Sync: OFF

- Line In / Ext Mic: EXT MIC

***SETUP***

1. Connect mic to line-in jack
2. Set line in rec mode as above (SETTINGS)
3. Press and HOLD "Mode/Rec" button
4. Select Line-In mode
5. Press "Nav/Menu" button to go to PAUSED record mode
6. Press REC
7. Engage the LOCK!

***STOPPING***

1. Unlock
2. Press "Mode/Rec" button
3. Press and HOLD the STOP button

I hope that this helps.

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Old August 6th, 2005, 09:55 PM   #7
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Ohhhhhh noooooo....... (that's me, groaning.)

It just keeps getting harder! But I'm sure glad you guys showed me this stuff now, before I tore my hair out trying it on my own. There is no way I could figure this out, and the flippin' manual, for me, was no help at all. I'll print these posts and see what I can do before this Saturday's wedding. Thank you!!
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Old August 6th, 2005, 10:55 PM   #8
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Nice thing is once you get it set, it holds the setting even when changing the battery.
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Old August 10th, 2005, 07:21 PM   #9
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This was posted in another thread, and is what taught me how to use mine in a few minutes. I can't remember who posted it, so sorry I can't give him credit.

Quote:
IRIVER:

Basically there are 3 recording modes
voice recording... uses the built in mic
fm recording ... uses fm radio
line in recording... uses the stereo mini jack(this indicates, not the level just the input connection)
There are 4 buttons on the iriver
3 on top,1 on the face
turn the unit on(left button on the top)
push in and hold in the button on the face(HOLD IT LONG ENOUGH)until you see "general" on screen.....if you don't hold long enough just push and hold again.
you see 6 icons on the bottom of the screen
move the button on the face to the right
you see .... general , display , timer,control
at control push the button in you now get
1/fast skip , 2/scan speed,3/voice recording,4/voice auto detect,5/tuner recording,6/line in recording (here you can set 44,100 to 11.025 hz by sliding the button on the face left or right)
by sliding the button up or down you select the kbps(same way to adjust)
to exit this press the left button on top
slide the button on the face down you get
7/line in recording volume(set at about 45 to 50)as a trial
press left button on top again to exit
slide face button down you get
8/line in auto slide button down again
9/line in /ext this is where you set mic input or line level input
you do this by sliding the face button left or right
press the left top button 3 times to exit the menu's and your ready to record.
press the right top button to start recording
sorry about the long post ,I felt I needed the room to make things clear.Hope I did
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Old September 26th, 2005, 08:28 AM   #10
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Picked up a iRiver 795 and Giant Squid.. Did some tests.. However it must be me, as the audio sounds heavy on the bass side of things something similiar to the sounds of it being muffled.. I checked all the EQ settings and they are normal.. I followed the guide as posted here..

Any suggestions I might have over looked? I am using line-in mono with ext. mic..
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Old September 26th, 2005, 08:43 AM   #11
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Are you sure you have actived the ext mic mode? what kind of file extension is being created?
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Old September 26th, 2005, 08:56 AM   #12
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Try some different mic placements.
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Old September 26th, 2005, 09:15 AM   #13
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another question

I posted this on another iRiver thread and I didn't get an answer. I'm hoping someone can help me with this. I too have looked at a lot of iRiver threads and that's how I heard about the Giant Squid mics.

Before I order the mic I'm trying to figure out if I need a powered mic or not. I would guess that the iRiver does not have phantom power, but the photo of the Giant Squid mic the suggest for use with the iRiver doesn't llok like it has the battery pac some of the Giant Squid mics have.

Thanks for your time.
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Old September 26th, 2005, 10:15 AM   #14
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like I know what I'm doing now...

Pat, the quickest way to make sure your settings are correct is to cover the little voice mic on the unit and speak into your lav. Should be pretty clear. Once you're sure it's working correctly, then Bob is right--mic placement seems to be everything on this.

Marion, you don't need a powered mic, and the suggested Giant Squid is not powered.
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Old September 26th, 2005, 11:07 AM   #15
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or see if it creates a .rec file (correct) or .aud (internal mic)
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